Tubes Tyed

[Scarlett81]

No no Vanessa, I didn't take it at all that you were saying everyone should have tubal! Also-I wasn't questioning your decision. Like I said, you sound like you made an informed decision based on the medical info your doctor gave you, and though I'm sure its hard, you sound confident that you made the right decision. I am happy to hear when people make these decisions and move forward well, b/c these huge life decisions are the hardest to make. To have kids, to not have them, to adopt, to give birth....its hard to come to the right conclusion.

My comments were directed mainly at the viewpoint that <i>some</i> here have that 1.no one with cf should give birth, and 2. that more doctors should tell their patients to not have babies.-b/c I feel that is a wrong judgement to say that. There is alot of negative feeling towards some that make the decision to go for pregnancy. I just wish their was more <i>openminded tolerance </i>for whatever people decide to do with their uteruses, esp if it seems as if the person made an informed well balanced decision. On that note-I'm happy you made yours, your picture is beautiful and so is your son! <img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">

 

[Scarlett81]

No no Vanessa, I didn't take it at all that you were saying everyone should have tubal! Also-I wasn't questioning your decision. Like I said, you sound like you made an informed decision based on the medical info your doctor gave you, and though I'm sure its hard, you sound confident that you made the right decision. I am happy to hear when people make these decisions and move forward well, b/c these huge life decisions are the hardest to make. To have kids, to not have them, to adopt, to give birth....its hard to come to the right conclusion.

My comments were directed mainly at the viewpoint that <i>some</i> here have that 1.no one with cf should give birth, and 2. that more doctors should tell their patients to not have babies.-b/c I feel that is a wrong judgement to say that. There is alot of negative feeling towards some that make the decision to go for pregnancy. I just wish their was more <i>openminded tolerance </i>for whatever people decide to do with their uteruses, esp if it seems as if the person made an informed well balanced decision. On that note-I'm happy you made yours, your picture is beautiful and so is your son! <img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">

 

[Scarlett81]

No no Vanessa, I didn't take it at all that you were saying everyone should have tubal! Also-I wasn't questioning your decision. Like I said, you sound like you made an informed decision based on the medical info your doctor gave you, and though I'm sure its hard, you sound confident that you made the right decision. I am happy to hear when people make these decisions and move forward well, b/c these huge life decisions are the hardest to make. To have kids, to not have them, to adopt, to give birth....its hard to come to the right conclusion.

My comments were directed mainly at the viewpoint that <i>some</i> here have that 1.no one with cf should give birth, and 2. that more doctors should tell their patients to not have babies.-b/c I feel that is a wrong judgement to say that. There is alot of negative feeling towards some that make the decision to go for pregnancy. I just wish their was more <i>openminded tolerance </i>for whatever people decide to do with their uteruses, esp if it seems as if the person made an informed well balanced decision. On that note-I'm happy you made yours, your picture is beautiful and so is your son! <img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">

 

[XAriesStarGazerX]

Thanks <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> I see your expecting your first baby in June , i wish you and your family the best!!

 

[XAriesStarGazerX]

Thanks <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> I see your expecting your first baby in June , i wish you and your family the best!!

 

[XAriesStarGazerX]

Thanks <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> I see your expecting your first baby in June , i wish you and your family the best!!

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Scarlett81</b></i>

1.no one with cf should give birth, and 2. that more doctors should tell their patients to not have babies.-b/c I feel that is a wrong judgement to say that. </end quote></div>

you don't have tolerance for other's opinions, but you expect others to have tolerance for yours?

i find that fascinating....


<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> <i>Originally posted by: <b>Scarlett81</b></i> I just wish their was more <i>openminded tolerance </i></end quote></div>

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Scarlett81</b></i>

1.no one with cf should give birth, and 2. that more doctors should tell their patients to not have babies.-b/c I feel that is a wrong judgement to say that. </end quote></div>

you don't have tolerance for other's opinions, but you expect others to have tolerance for yours?

i find that fascinating....


<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> <i>Originally posted by: <b>Scarlett81</b></i> I just wish their was more <i>openminded tolerance </i></end quote></div>

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Scarlett81</b></i>

1.no one with cf should give birth, and 2. that more doctors should tell their patients to not have babies.-b/c I feel that is a wrong judgement to say that. </end quote></div>

you don't have tolerance for other's opinions, but you expect others to have tolerance for yours?

i find that fascinating....


<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> <i>Originally posted by: <b>Scarlett81</b></i> I just wish their was more <i>openminded tolerance </i></end quote></div>

 

[Scarlett81]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Scarlett81</b></i>


I think everyone should be congratulated, not on what their uterus produces, or doesn't produce-but on the fact that they are doing their best and making well informed decisions. And people should not judge others for what their uterus produces-or doesn't produce-and just keep doing their best and give people the benefit of the doubt that they are doing their very best in life.</end quote></div>



Read my first post amy-that was my point. To not judge others-I do not judge you for deciding to not have a baby. But you judge everyone else. And thats sad to me. You miss out on alot of good relationships.

So don't twist what I said. And don't ever say I don't have tolerance for others opinions. I respect everyone's choices. I never slam others for what they do.

 

[Scarlett81]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Scarlett81</b></i>


I think everyone should be congratulated, not on what their uterus produces, or doesn't produce-but on the fact that they are doing their best and making well informed decisions. And people should not judge others for what their uterus produces-or doesn't produce-and just keep doing their best and give people the benefit of the doubt that they are doing their very best in life.</end quote></div>



Read my first post amy-that was my point. To not judge others-I do not judge you for deciding to not have a baby. But you judge everyone else. And thats sad to me. You miss out on alot of good relationships.

So don't twist what I said. And don't ever say I don't have tolerance for others opinions. I respect everyone's choices. I never slam others for what they do.

 

[Scarlett81]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Scarlett81</b></i>


I think everyone should be congratulated, not on what their uterus produces, or doesn't produce-but on the fact that they are doing their best and making well informed decisions. And people should not judge others for what their uterus produces-or doesn't produce-and just keep doing their best and give people the benefit of the doubt that they are doing their very best in life.</end quote></div>



Read my first post amy-that was my point. To not judge others-I do not judge you for deciding to not have a baby. But you judge everyone else. And thats sad to me. You miss out on alot of good relationships.

So don't twist what I said. And don't ever say I don't have tolerance for others opinions. I respect everyone's choices. I never slam others for what they do.

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Scarlett81</b></i>

I do not judge you for deciding to not have a baby .</end quote></div>


But you do judge me for having the opinions that I do about CF and pregnancy. You aren't open-minded about differing opinions to yours about CF and pregnancy.

Yet you request that others be open minded. Not accepting my opinion on CF and pregnancy is not being open minded.

That, my friend, is the text-book definition of hypocracy.

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Scarlett81</b></i>

I do not judge you for deciding to not have a baby .</end quote></div>


But you do judge me for having the opinions that I do about CF and pregnancy. You aren't open-minded about differing opinions to yours about CF and pregnancy.

Yet you request that others be open minded. Not accepting my opinion on CF and pregnancy is not being open minded.

That, my friend, is the text-book definition of hypocracy.

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Scarlett81</b></i>

I do not judge you for deciding to not have a baby .</end quote></div>


But you do judge me for having the opinions that I do about CF and pregnancy. You aren't open-minded about differing opinions to yours about CF and pregnancy.

Yet you request that others be open minded. Not accepting my opinion on CF and pregnancy is not being open minded.

That, my friend, is the text-book definition of hypocracy.

 

[LouLou]

I am pregnant with my first child whom is due July 13th. No doctor has ever suggested that I get a tubal but they have preached safe sex. My guess is that few cf doctors would recommend this abdominal surgery to someone like myself (in a commited marriage with mild/moderate lung function (FEV1 66%)). The reason for this is because if a woman is in a commited relationship it is a much easier surgery for the man to recover from than the woman and point two is any abdominal surgery is rough on cfers because we must cough to stay well. With 80% lung function maybe you don't cough a lot but for me this would be a huge drawback. I would say tubal is a last resort for cfers and should only be recommended for people that are showing irresponsibility with their disease management and lifestyle. I'm glad you have your beautiful son and hope you consider adoption if your health continues to do well, you have a good support system and continue to have the urge for more children. I will likely never pursue this surgery unless medically necessary but I think that would more likely be a hysterectomy. Take care of yourself!

 

[LouLou]

I am pregnant with my first child whom is due July 13th. No doctor has ever suggested that I get a tubal but they have preached safe sex. My guess is that few cf doctors would recommend this abdominal surgery to someone like myself (in a commited marriage with mild/moderate lung function (FEV1 66%)). The reason for this is because if a woman is in a commited relationship it is a much easier surgery for the man to recover from than the woman and point two is any abdominal surgery is rough on cfers because we must cough to stay well. With 80% lung function maybe you don't cough a lot but for me this would be a huge drawback. I would say tubal is a last resort for cfers and should only be recommended for people that are showing irresponsibility with their disease management and lifestyle. I'm glad you have your beautiful son and hope you consider adoption if your health continues to do well, you have a good support system and continue to have the urge for more children. I will likely never pursue this surgery unless medically necessary but I think that would more likely be a hysterectomy. Take care of yourself!

 

[LouLou]

I am pregnant with my first child whom is due July 13th. No doctor has ever suggested that I get a tubal but they have preached safe sex. My guess is that few cf doctors would recommend this abdominal surgery to someone like myself (in a commited marriage with mild/moderate lung function (FEV1 66%)). The reason for this is because if a woman is in a commited relationship it is a much easier surgery for the man to recover from than the woman and point two is any abdominal surgery is rough on cfers because we must cough to stay well. With 80% lung function maybe you don't cough a lot but for me this would be a huge drawback. I would say tubal is a last resort for cfers and should only be recommended for people that are showing irresponsibility with their disease management and lifestyle. I'm glad you have your beautiful son and hope you consider adoption if your health continues to do well, you have a good support system and continue to have the urge for more children. I will likely never pursue this surgery unless medically necessary but I think that would more likely be a hysterectomy. Take care of yourself!

 

[tapia]

Hi Vanessa,

I am completely in the same situation as you. I have a 4 year old girl. (who will be 5 in March) She is the best thing that ever happened to me. But having her and carrying her were the worst 9 months of my life. Prior to getting pregnant i felt wonderful but i was on no meds which i am sure that is why i was soo sick when i was pregnant because i had not prepared my body before getting pregnant. Well, i was in and out of the hospital. My rib muscles kept popping because of all the coughing i was doing. That was the reason the doctor gave me for the severe pain on my sides of my ribs. The non-stop coughing was the kind that makes you bring up everything in your stomach. I did not have a CF team looking out for me either during that time in my life either. I did not end up with my current CF doctor until after my pregnancy. I think i had the worst pregnancy ever because i was not preprared physically or emotionally. My support system was just my mother. I was married to my daughter's father but he was not in the picture. He lived at work and did not care to much about me to even ask how i was doing.

Overall, my pregnancy was horrible but i thank God for going through it because i have a wonderful little girl that will put a smile on my face every day. But when my daughter turned 1 i had my tubes tied. I felt that i could not go through that again. And i asked the doctor if i took care of myself and took my meds if my next pregnancy would be better and he told me that no one can say for sure how it would be. So I tied my tubes...

Three years later i still wonder if i made the right choice because i do wish i could have one more. But the days when i start getting a flare up with my CF or when my daughter tells me she does not want me going to the doctor because i will stay there, I feel I made the best choice in the world.

Vanessa you have that one that will put the smile on your face and you can dedicate your time to him. (and yourself of course)!!!

I wish you the best and only you know if you made the right choice.

 

[tapia]

Hi Vanessa,

I am completely in the same situation as you. I have a 4 year old girl. (who will be 5 in March) She is the best thing that ever happened to me. But having her and carrying her were the worst 9 months of my life. Prior to getting pregnant i felt wonderful but i was on no meds which i am sure that is why i was soo sick when i was pregnant because i had not prepared my body before getting pregnant. Well, i was in and out of the hospital. My rib muscles kept popping because of all the coughing i was doing. That was the reason the doctor gave me for the severe pain on my sides of my ribs. The non-stop coughing was the kind that makes you bring up everything in your stomach. I did not have a CF team looking out for me either during that time in my life either. I did not end up with my current CF doctor until after my pregnancy. I think i had the worst pregnancy ever because i was not preprared physically or emotionally. My support system was just my mother. I was married to my daughter's father but he was not in the picture. He lived at work and did not care to much about me to even ask how i was doing.

Overall, my pregnancy was horrible but i thank God for going through it because i have a wonderful little girl that will put a smile on my face every day. But when my daughter turned 1 i had my tubes tied. I felt that i could not go through that again. And i asked the doctor if i took care of myself and took my meds if my next pregnancy would be better and he told me that no one can say for sure how it would be. So I tied my tubes...

Three years later i still wonder if i made the right choice because i do wish i could have one more. But the days when i start getting a flare up with my CF or when my daughter tells me she does not want me going to the doctor because i will stay there, I feel I made the best choice in the world.

Vanessa you have that one that will put the smile on your face and you can dedicate your time to him. (and yourself of course)!!!

I wish you the best and only you know if you made the right choice.