what will you take for sleep?
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spicyone18
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I'm with Melissa on this one, my problems not falling asleep, its staying asleep. So annoying!!
spicyone18
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I'm with Melissa on this one, my problems not falling asleep, its staying asleep. So annoying!!
coltsfan715
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Thanks for the info on the Tylenol PM - I hadn't heard that. I will have to talk to my doc next time I am in office. Luckily I don't take it regularly if it can cause problems. I only take it when I get somewhat sick - with the runny nose and constant coughing cause it helps calm me down.
Thanks again
Lindsey
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Lindsey
coltsfan715
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Thanks for the info on the Tylenol PM - I hadn't heard that. I will have to talk to my doc next time I am in office. Luckily I don't take it regularly if it can cause problems. I only take it when I get somewhat sick - with the runny nose and constant coughing cause it helps calm me down.
Thanks again
Lindsey
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Lindsey
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perl
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As you can see, the methods used are varied. 
I think you really have to find out what works for you. For me, the following are totally useless: Ambien, PM-type medications, valerian root, melatonin.
Good methods: reading, hot shower/bath, warm milk, orgasms
If you end up getting Rx from doc, be careful about dependency & depression! I was taking this stuff --Alprazolam-- during an unusual bout of insomnia. I was sleeping great & crying all the time.... yikes. Took me a while to figure it out.
I think you really have to find out what works for you. For me, the following are totally useless: Ambien, PM-type medications, valerian root, melatonin. Good methods: reading, hot shower/bath, warm milk, orgasms
If you end up getting Rx from doc, be careful about dependency & depression! I was taking this stuff --Alprazolam-- during an unusual bout of insomnia. I was sleeping great & crying all the time.... yikes.
Took me a while to figure it out.
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perl
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As you can see, the methods used are varied. I think you really have to find out what works for you. For me, the following are totally useless: Ambien, PM-type medications, valerian root, melatonin.
Good methods: reading, hot shower/bath, warm milk, orgasms
If you end up getting Rx from doc, be careful about dependency & depression! I was taking this stuff --Alprazolam-- during an unusual bout of insomnia. I was sleeping great & crying all the time.... yikes. Took me a while to figure it out.
I think you really have to find out what works for you. For me, the following are totally useless: Ambien, PM-type medications, valerian root, melatonin. Good methods: reading, hot shower/bath, warm milk, orgasms
If you end up getting Rx from doc, be careful about dependency & depression! I was taking this stuff --Alprazolam-- during an unusual bout of insomnia. I was sleeping great & crying all the time.... yikes.
Took me a while to figure it out.I am a constant worrier with a mind that is always spinning at 100 miles an hour...........i have therefore suffered from insomnia off and on all my life. Recently i've perfected the art of meditation and do this every night when i go to bed. I can still my mind and get into a meditative state that is so deep i nearly stop breathing! I then sleep like the dead and wake up in the morning in the exact same position i went to sleep in - makes it very easy to make the bed!! It takes a while to get the hang of it, but if you can learn to meditate it has other benefits as well - such as helping with stress, anxiety and it aids physical health as well - it has been proven over and over again that people who meditate regularly (20 minutes a day is suggested), have a much lower incidence of all types of cancer and they have a stronger immune system too. I don't think I cough very much at night these days, if at all - well if I do, I'm not aware of it because I sleep so deeply!
Kat (37 with CF, NZ)
Kat (37 with CF, NZ)
I am a constant worrier with a mind that is always spinning at 100 miles an hour...........i have therefore suffered from insomnia off and on all my life. Recently i've perfected the art of meditation and do this every night when i go to bed. I can still my mind and get into a meditative state that is so deep i nearly stop breathing! I then sleep like the dead and wake up in the morning in the exact same position i went to sleep in - makes it very easy to make the bed!! It takes a while to get the hang of it, but if you can learn to meditate it has other benefits as well - such as helping with stress, anxiety and it aids physical health as well - it has been proven over and over again that people who meditate regularly (20 minutes a day is suggested), have a much lower incidence of all types of cancer and they have a stronger immune system too. I don't think I cough very much at night these days, if at all - well if I do, I'm not aware of it because I sleep so deeply!
Kat (37 with CF, NZ)
Kat (37 with CF, NZ)
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What is your method of meditation? I can meditate my own way too but when I was a little kid my parents took me to a meditation school where I was given a mantra and met with a Maharishi. Then in High School (a normal H.S) they taught us Transendental meditation. It does work great and I think I will start this again. Do you sit in a chair to practice this? Explain thank you
Risa
What is your method of meditation? I can meditate my own way too but when I was a little kid my parents took me to a meditation school where I was given a mantra and met with a Maharishi. Then in High School (a normal H.S) they taught us Transendental meditation. It does work great and I think I will start this again. Do you sit in a chair to practice this? Explain thank you
Risa
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What is your method of meditation? I can meditate my own way too but when I was a little kid my parents took me to a meditation school where I was given a mantra and met with a Maharishi. Then in High School (a normal H.S) they taught us Transendental meditation. It does work great and I think I will start this again. Do you sit in a chair to practice this? Explain thank you
Risa
What is your method of meditation? I can meditate my own way too but when I was a little kid my parents took me to a meditation school where I was given a mantra and met with a Maharishi. Then in High School (a normal H.S) they taught us Transendental meditation. It does work great and I think I will start this again. Do you sit in a chair to practice this? Explain thank you
Risa
JennifersHope
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I take Trazadone 50 to 100 mgs.. which is an antidepressant that is also used to induce sleep, If needed I add ambien 5 to 10 mgs and if I still can't sleep I take zanex as well...
I have a hard time sleeping when my steoroid level is up.... so when it is up all three is usually needed.
Jennifer
I have a hard time sleeping when my steoroid level is up.... so when it is up all three is usually needed.
Jennifer
JennifersHope
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I take Trazadone 50 to 100 mgs.. which is an antidepressant that is also used to induce sleep, If needed I add ambien 5 to 10 mgs and if I still can't sleep I take zanex as well...
I have a hard time sleeping when my steoroid level is up.... so when it is up all three is usually needed.
Jennifer
I have a hard time sleeping when my steoroid level is up.... so when it is up all three is usually needed.
Jennifer
Hi Risa
Wow, you've had a great learning curve in this - i would love to learn through someone really talented in this area. I actually taught myself to meditate and it wasn't easy. I read books basically and then experiemented with what works best for me.
I find music doesn't work, because I'm such a fan i find myself staying focused on the music and humming along to the melody instead of clearing my head! I also don't chant because something in me finds it mildly amusing and i end up in fits of giggles!
The only method that works for me is by starting with long deep breaths in an extremely quiet and dark room (i keep myself warm though because i notice the deeper I go, the lower my body temperature gets) - I imagine the breath is coming in and out of my bellybutton. This means breathing in as much as I possibly can and then emptying my lungs right out - once i have relaxed my body sufficiently and am perfectly comfortable, i need to breathe less, so my breathing tends to go very quiet and my respirations are a lot less frequent than normal. Then I focus myself on picturing total darkness in my head - I try to think and feel nothing, just be. If thoughts come into my head I simply push them out again and concentrate on thinking, imagining and feeling absolutely nothing. It's very hard to explain, but when I get deep enough - can sometimes take me up to ten minutes depending on how stressed or mentally busy I am to start - it is the most peaceful sensation and incredibly relaxing and i don't want to come out of it again.
Sometimes I picture a beam of bright white light encompassing me and I envisage it going up and down my body releasing healing properties as it goes..........sounds a little 'out there' but with practice over the years, I have become quite good at it and even if I'm dog tired sometimes, if I meditate for 20 minutes I'll feel as relaxed as if I'd had a 4 hour sleep. The power of the mind really is amazing. Can you explain to me how you meditate and what is the difference between trancandental meditation and normal meditation?
Cheers
Kat (37 with CF, NZ)
Wow, you've had a great learning curve in this - i would love to learn through someone really talented in this area. I actually taught myself to meditate and it wasn't easy. I read books basically and then experiemented with what works best for me.
I find music doesn't work, because I'm such a fan i find myself staying focused on the music and humming along to the melody instead of clearing my head! I also don't chant because something in me finds it mildly amusing and i end up in fits of giggles!
The only method that works for me is by starting with long deep breaths in an extremely quiet and dark room (i keep myself warm though because i notice the deeper I go, the lower my body temperature gets) - I imagine the breath is coming in and out of my bellybutton. This means breathing in as much as I possibly can and then emptying my lungs right out - once i have relaxed my body sufficiently and am perfectly comfortable, i need to breathe less, so my breathing tends to go very quiet and my respirations are a lot less frequent than normal. Then I focus myself on picturing total darkness in my head - I try to think and feel nothing, just be. If thoughts come into my head I simply push them out again and concentrate on thinking, imagining and feeling absolutely nothing. It's very hard to explain, but when I get deep enough - can sometimes take me up to ten minutes depending on how stressed or mentally busy I am to start - it is the most peaceful sensation and incredibly relaxing and i don't want to come out of it again.
Sometimes I picture a beam of bright white light encompassing me and I envisage it going up and down my body releasing healing properties as it goes..........sounds a little 'out there' but with practice over the years, I have become quite good at it and even if I'm dog tired sometimes, if I meditate for 20 minutes I'll feel as relaxed as if I'd had a 4 hour sleep. The power of the mind really is amazing. Can you explain to me how you meditate and what is the difference between trancandental meditation and normal meditation?
Cheers
Kat (37 with CF, NZ)
Hi Risa
Wow, you've had a great learning curve in this - i would love to learn through someone really talented in this area. I actually taught myself to meditate and it wasn't easy. I read books basically and then experiemented with what works best for me.
I find music doesn't work, because I'm such a fan i find myself staying focused on the music and humming along to the melody instead of clearing my head! I also don't chant because something in me finds it mildly amusing and i end up in fits of giggles!
The only method that works for me is by starting with long deep breaths in an extremely quiet and dark room (i keep myself warm though because i notice the deeper I go, the lower my body temperature gets) - I imagine the breath is coming in and out of my bellybutton. This means breathing in as much as I possibly can and then emptying my lungs right out - once i have relaxed my body sufficiently and am perfectly comfortable, i need to breathe less, so my breathing tends to go very quiet and my respirations are a lot less frequent than normal. Then I focus myself on picturing total darkness in my head - I try to think and feel nothing, just be. If thoughts come into my head I simply push them out again and concentrate on thinking, imagining and feeling absolutely nothing. It's very hard to explain, but when I get deep enough - can sometimes take me up to ten minutes depending on how stressed or mentally busy I am to start - it is the most peaceful sensation and incredibly relaxing and i don't want to come out of it again.
Sometimes I picture a beam of bright white light encompassing me and I envisage it going up and down my body releasing healing properties as it goes..........sounds a little 'out there' but with practice over the years, I have become quite good at it and even if I'm dog tired sometimes, if I meditate for 20 minutes I'll feel as relaxed as if I'd had a 4 hour sleep. The power of the mind really is amazing. Can you explain to me how you meditate and what is the difference between trancandental meditation and normal meditation?
Cheers
Kat (37 with CF, NZ)
Wow, you've had a great learning curve in this - i would love to learn through someone really talented in this area. I actually taught myself to meditate and it wasn't easy. I read books basically and then experiemented with what works best for me.
I find music doesn't work, because I'm such a fan i find myself staying focused on the music and humming along to the melody instead of clearing my head! I also don't chant because something in me finds it mildly amusing and i end up in fits of giggles!
The only method that works for me is by starting with long deep breaths in an extremely quiet and dark room (i keep myself warm though because i notice the deeper I go, the lower my body temperature gets) - I imagine the breath is coming in and out of my bellybutton. This means breathing in as much as I possibly can and then emptying my lungs right out - once i have relaxed my body sufficiently and am perfectly comfortable, i need to breathe less, so my breathing tends to go very quiet and my respirations are a lot less frequent than normal. Then I focus myself on picturing total darkness in my head - I try to think and feel nothing, just be. If thoughts come into my head I simply push them out again and concentrate on thinking, imagining and feeling absolutely nothing. It's very hard to explain, but when I get deep enough - can sometimes take me up to ten minutes depending on how stressed or mentally busy I am to start - it is the most peaceful sensation and incredibly relaxing and i don't want to come out of it again.
Sometimes I picture a beam of bright white light encompassing me and I envisage it going up and down my body releasing healing properties as it goes..........sounds a little 'out there' but with practice over the years, I have become quite good at it and even if I'm dog tired sometimes, if I meditate for 20 minutes I'll feel as relaxed as if I'd had a 4 hour sleep. The power of the mind really is amazing. Can you explain to me how you meditate and what is the difference between trancandental meditation and normal meditation?
Cheers
Kat (37 with CF, NZ)
Hi Kat
What a cool name you have. Lately, I sleep so well I do not need to meditate to sleep. I do take long breaths like you describe and try and focus on positive thoughts and say many I am grateful for....I usually fall asleep pretty fast since I am using my mini trampoline. There are studies on how that it does help people to sleep better.
When I was younger I would sit upright and concentrate like you describe repeating the mantra. You can use any word or make up any sound like eeeeooooo or looovvvveeeeee lol whatever you like to be your mantra and use that to clear your mind and go into a deeper level. Sometimes just concentrating on your chest rising and falling would put anyone to sleep but for me I have not honestly meditated in a while.
I learned a technique called Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT go to <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://emofree.com)">http://emofree.com)</a> I went to a class and learned this in one session. You can download the free file or buy their DVD's. This is not anything like meditation but it is suppose to heal and get rid of your fears, traumas and whatever phobias you have. AT the time, I was not a good sleeper so before bed I would tap and use EFT. This technique works on taping on accupressue points while stating specific affirmations. I took it one step further and I would just do the whole set up in my mind which I found put me right to sleep. IT is all related to meditation if you ask me but if you ask them they would say it is much different.
I am going to start meditating again. I do believe I meditated while I was in the ICU for my second transplant as my parents would keep reminding me but I do not remember all that i did. Toward the end of my stay is when I became mentally driven. I do believe any kind of focusing technique is all similar to meditation would you agree?
Thank you for the inspiration. I am going to start tonight and will pick a time of the day where I meditate to refresh my body. I might even do this before I work out.
To go off the subject for bit, the way you describe how you do not want to come out of the feeling when you go really deep I have had a few flying dreams that really blew me away. When you feel yourself flying it is an amazing experience. I wish I had more of these dreams.
They only seem to come to me when I need real healing and they do heal me.
Take care
Risa
What a cool name you have. Lately, I sleep so well I do not need to meditate to sleep. I do take long breaths like you describe and try and focus on positive thoughts and say many I am grateful for....I usually fall asleep pretty fast since I am using my mini trampoline. There are studies on how that it does help people to sleep better.
When I was younger I would sit upright and concentrate like you describe repeating the mantra. You can use any word or make up any sound like eeeeooooo or looovvvveeeeee lol whatever you like to be your mantra and use that to clear your mind and go into a deeper level. Sometimes just concentrating on your chest rising and falling would put anyone to sleep but for me I have not honestly meditated in a while.
I learned a technique called Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT go to <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://emofree.com)">http://emofree.com)</a> I went to a class and learned this in one session. You can download the free file or buy their DVD's. This is not anything like meditation but it is suppose to heal and get rid of your fears, traumas and whatever phobias you have. AT the time, I was not a good sleeper so before bed I would tap and use EFT. This technique works on taping on accupressue points while stating specific affirmations. I took it one step further and I would just do the whole set up in my mind which I found put me right to sleep. IT is all related to meditation if you ask me but if you ask them they would say it is much different.
I am going to start meditating again. I do believe I meditated while I was in the ICU for my second transplant as my parents would keep reminding me but I do not remember all that i did. Toward the end of my stay is when I became mentally driven. I do believe any kind of focusing technique is all similar to meditation would you agree?
Thank you for the inspiration. I am going to start tonight and will pick a time of the day where I meditate to refresh my body. I might even do this before I work out.
To go off the subject for bit, the way you describe how you do not want to come out of the feeling when you go really deep I have had a few flying dreams that really blew me away. When you feel yourself flying it is an amazing experience. I wish I had more of these dreams.
They only seem to come to me when I need real healing and they do heal me.
Take care
Risa
Hi Kat
What a cool name you have. Lately, I sleep so well I do not need to meditate to sleep. I do take long breaths like you describe and try and focus on positive thoughts and say many I am grateful for....I usually fall asleep pretty fast since I am using my mini trampoline. There are studies on how that it does help people to sleep better.
When I was younger I would sit upright and concentrate like you describe repeating the mantra. You can use any word or make up any sound like eeeeooooo or looovvvveeeeee lol whatever you like to be your mantra and use that to clear your mind and go into a deeper level. Sometimes just concentrating on your chest rising and falling would put anyone to sleep but for me I have not honestly meditated in a while.
I learned a technique called Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT go to <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://emofree.com)">http://emofree.com)</a> I went to a class and learned this in one session. You can download the free file or buy their DVD's. This is not anything like meditation but it is suppose to heal and get rid of your fears, traumas and whatever phobias you have. AT the time, I was not a good sleeper so before bed I would tap and use EFT. This technique works on taping on accupressue points while stating specific affirmations. I took it one step further and I would just do the whole set up in my mind which I found put me right to sleep. IT is all related to meditation if you ask me but if you ask them they would say it is much different.
I am going to start meditating again. I do believe I meditated while I was in the ICU for my second transplant as my parents would keep reminding me but I do not remember all that i did. Toward the end of my stay is when I became mentally driven. I do believe any kind of focusing technique is all similar to meditation would you agree?
Thank you for the inspiration. I am going to start tonight and will pick a time of the day where I meditate to refresh my body. I might even do this before I work out.
To go off the subject for bit, the way you describe how you do not want to come out of the feeling when you go really deep I have had a few flying dreams that really blew me away. When you feel yourself flying it is an amazing experience. I wish I had more of these dreams.
They only seem to come to me when I need real healing and they do heal me.
Take care
Risa
What a cool name you have. Lately, I sleep so well I do not need to meditate to sleep. I do take long breaths like you describe and try and focus on positive thoughts and say many I am grateful for....I usually fall asleep pretty fast since I am using my mini trampoline. There are studies on how that it does help people to sleep better.
When I was younger I would sit upright and concentrate like you describe repeating the mantra. You can use any word or make up any sound like eeeeooooo or looovvvveeeeee lol whatever you like to be your mantra and use that to clear your mind and go into a deeper level. Sometimes just concentrating on your chest rising and falling would put anyone to sleep but for me I have not honestly meditated in a while.
I learned a technique called Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT go to <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://emofree.com)">http://emofree.com)</a> I went to a class and learned this in one session. You can download the free file or buy their DVD's. This is not anything like meditation but it is suppose to heal and get rid of your fears, traumas and whatever phobias you have. AT the time, I was not a good sleeper so before bed I would tap and use EFT. This technique works on taping on accupressue points while stating specific affirmations. I took it one step further and I would just do the whole set up in my mind which I found put me right to sleep. IT is all related to meditation if you ask me but if you ask them they would say it is much different.
I am going to start meditating again. I do believe I meditated while I was in the ICU for my second transplant as my parents would keep reminding me but I do not remember all that i did. Toward the end of my stay is when I became mentally driven. I do believe any kind of focusing technique is all similar to meditation would you agree?
Thank you for the inspiration. I am going to start tonight and will pick a time of the day where I meditate to refresh my body. I might even do this before I work out.
To go off the subject for bit, the way you describe how you do not want to come out of the feeling when you go really deep I have had a few flying dreams that really blew me away. When you feel yourself flying it is an amazing experience. I wish I had more of these dreams.
They only seem to come to me when I need real healing and they do heal me.
Take care
Risa
RainbowBubblez
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I usually take some gravol, yup puts me to sleep other than that I would ask the DR.
RainbowBubblez
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I usually take some gravol, yup puts me to sleep other than that I would ask the DR.