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I've just been updated on what went on here, and I have to say, I'm sickened. Allie left because she was deeply offended, not because she's just "in mourning". Mind you, I wasn't there at the time this took place, but from what I can gather and from what I've seen from people on this forum, I totally give up. It seems that if you have an opinion that doesn't "fit in" to the majority's, you don't matter and neither do your feelings. That's really friggin' sad. This forum is masked as a support forum, and in reality its nothing but a mud-slinging high school drama. How stupid...those that attacked her, take a look in the mirror. You are just as mean, egtocentric and childish as you made Allie out to be.
That's all I have to say. I'm f**king done.
That's all I have to say. I'm f**king done.
I've just been updated on what went on here, and I have to say, I'm sickened. Allie left because she was deeply offended, not because she's just "in mourning". Mind you, I wasn't there at the time this took place, but from what I can gather and from what I've seen from people on this forum, I totally give up. It seems that if you have an opinion that doesn't "fit in" to the majority's, you don't matter and neither do your feelings. That's really friggin' sad. This forum is masked as a support forum, and in reality its nothing but a mud-slinging high school drama. How stupid...those that attacked her, take a look in the mirror. You are just as mean, egtocentric and childish as you made Allie out to be.
That's all I have to say. I'm f**king done.
That's all I have to say. I'm f**king done.
I've just been updated on what went on here, and I have to say, I'm sickened. Allie left because she was deeply offended, not because she's just "in mourning". Mind you, I wasn't there at the time this took place, but from what I can gather and from what I've seen from people on this forum, I totally give up. It seems that if you have an opinion that doesn't "fit in" to the majority's, you don't matter and neither do your feelings. That's really friggin' sad. This forum is masked as a support forum, and in reality its nothing but a mud-slinging high school drama. How stupid...those that attacked her, take a look in the mirror. You are just as mean, egtocentric and childish as you made Allie out to be.
That's all I have to say. I'm f**king done.
That's all I have to say. I'm f**king done.
Emily65Roses
New member
I'm with Lisa Lilith. I know what really went on, and while Allie <i>allowed</i> people to drive her away, she didn't just leave because she was "mourning." She left because she was deeply insulted more than once. I won't throw names around because I'm not in second f*cking grade, but you know who you are. And don't try to throw around the "no one drove her away" or "she left because she's mourning" because that's garbage.
I don't agree with Allie 100% of the time, but take responsibility for what you said. I don't think she should've let people push her away. I personally, would've told anyone who made me feel that way to f*ck off. But don't go around now trying to damage control for the sh*t you said. Admit to it, be adults. You don't even need to apologize for it if you don't see the need. But don't cover it up like you didn't say what you said. You're adults, you can admit when you've said something sh*tty. I've done it many times before and I'm always adult enough to stand up and say "I acted like an @ss, I shouldn't have said X, Y, or Z, and I am truly sorry" la la la. Like I said, if you don't see the need to apologize, then don't. But don't pretend like you didn't say anything offensive, because that's crap.
In summary... Allie may have allowed people to push her away, but you people were really godd@mn offensive. While I personally would've told you to piss off and go play in traffic, Allie is more sensitive than that. No one has to walk on eggshells around her, but if you had said any of that garbage to anybody else (say somebody more popular for instance?), people would've jumped up your @sses with sticks of dynamite. You're allowed to say what you want, but if you're going to be offensive children (and NOT take responsibility for what you've done) then expect people like myself (and I wager Lisa, among others, will join me on this) to not be so friendly with you in the future.
<i>Oh, and in case anyone was wondering, I will clear up someone's name. While Kiel (Ender) posted his two cents in a much inappropriate place and manner, his thread had nothing to do with Allie leaving.</i>
I don't agree with Allie 100% of the time, but take responsibility for what you said. I don't think she should've let people push her away. I personally, would've told anyone who made me feel that way to f*ck off. But don't go around now trying to damage control for the sh*t you said. Admit to it, be adults. You don't even need to apologize for it if you don't see the need. But don't cover it up like you didn't say what you said. You're adults, you can admit when you've said something sh*tty. I've done it many times before and I'm always adult enough to stand up and say "I acted like an @ss, I shouldn't have said X, Y, or Z, and I am truly sorry" la la la. Like I said, if you don't see the need to apologize, then don't. But don't pretend like you didn't say anything offensive, because that's crap.
In summary... Allie may have allowed people to push her away, but you people were really godd@mn offensive. While I personally would've told you to piss off and go play in traffic, Allie is more sensitive than that. No one has to walk on eggshells around her, but if you had said any of that garbage to anybody else (say somebody more popular for instance?), people would've jumped up your @sses with sticks of dynamite. You're allowed to say what you want, but if you're going to be offensive children (and NOT take responsibility for what you've done) then expect people like myself (and I wager Lisa, among others, will join me on this) to not be so friendly with you in the future.
<i>Oh, and in case anyone was wondering, I will clear up someone's name. While Kiel (Ender) posted his two cents in a much inappropriate place and manner, his thread had nothing to do with Allie leaving.</i>
Emily65Roses
New member
I'm with Lisa Lilith. I know what really went on, and while Allie <i>allowed</i> people to drive her away, she didn't just leave because she was "mourning." She left because she was deeply insulted more than once. I won't throw names around because I'm not in second f*cking grade, but you know who you are. And don't try to throw around the "no one drove her away" or "she left because she's mourning" because that's garbage.
I don't agree with Allie 100% of the time, but take responsibility for what you said. I don't think she should've let people push her away. I personally, would've told anyone who made me feel that way to f*ck off. But don't go around now trying to damage control for the sh*t you said. Admit to it, be adults. You don't even need to apologize for it if you don't see the need. But don't cover it up like you didn't say what you said. You're adults, you can admit when you've said something sh*tty. I've done it many times before and I'm always adult enough to stand up and say "I acted like an @ss, I shouldn't have said X, Y, or Z, and I am truly sorry" la la la. Like I said, if you don't see the need to apologize, then don't. But don't pretend like you didn't say anything offensive, because that's crap.
In summary... Allie may have allowed people to push her away, but you people were really godd@mn offensive. While I personally would've told you to piss off and go play in traffic, Allie is more sensitive than that. No one has to walk on eggshells around her, but if you had said any of that garbage to anybody else (say somebody more popular for instance?), people would've jumped up your @sses with sticks of dynamite. You're allowed to say what you want, but if you're going to be offensive children (and NOT take responsibility for what you've done) then expect people like myself (and I wager Lisa, among others, will join me on this) to not be so friendly with you in the future.
<i>Oh, and in case anyone was wondering, I will clear up someone's name. While Kiel (Ender) posted his two cents in a much inappropriate place and manner, his thread had nothing to do with Allie leaving.</i>
I don't agree with Allie 100% of the time, but take responsibility for what you said. I don't think she should've let people push her away. I personally, would've told anyone who made me feel that way to f*ck off. But don't go around now trying to damage control for the sh*t you said. Admit to it, be adults. You don't even need to apologize for it if you don't see the need. But don't cover it up like you didn't say what you said. You're adults, you can admit when you've said something sh*tty. I've done it many times before and I'm always adult enough to stand up and say "I acted like an @ss, I shouldn't have said X, Y, or Z, and I am truly sorry" la la la. Like I said, if you don't see the need to apologize, then don't. But don't pretend like you didn't say anything offensive, because that's crap.
In summary... Allie may have allowed people to push her away, but you people were really godd@mn offensive. While I personally would've told you to piss off and go play in traffic, Allie is more sensitive than that. No one has to walk on eggshells around her, but if you had said any of that garbage to anybody else (say somebody more popular for instance?), people would've jumped up your @sses with sticks of dynamite. You're allowed to say what you want, but if you're going to be offensive children (and NOT take responsibility for what you've done) then expect people like myself (and I wager Lisa, among others, will join me on this) to not be so friendly with you in the future.
<i>Oh, and in case anyone was wondering, I will clear up someone's name. While Kiel (Ender) posted his two cents in a much inappropriate place and manner, his thread had nothing to do with Allie leaving.</i>
Emily65Roses
New member
I'm with Lisa Lilith. I know what really went on, and while Allie <i>allowed</i> people to drive her away, she didn't just leave because she was "mourning." She left because she was deeply insulted more than once. I won't throw names around because I'm not in second f*cking grade, but you know who you are. And don't try to throw around the "no one drove her away" or "she left because she's mourning" because that's garbage.
I don't agree with Allie 100% of the time, but take responsibility for what you said. I don't think she should've let people push her away. I personally, would've told anyone who made me feel that way to f*ck off. But don't go around now trying to damage control for the sh*t you said. Admit to it, be adults. You don't even need to apologize for it if you don't see the need. But don't cover it up like you didn't say what you said. You're adults, you can admit when you've said something sh*tty. I've done it many times before and I'm always adult enough to stand up and say "I acted like an @ss, I shouldn't have said X, Y, or Z, and I am truly sorry" la la la. Like I said, if you don't see the need to apologize, then don't. But don't pretend like you didn't say anything offensive, because that's crap.
In summary... Allie may have allowed people to push her away, but you people were really godd@mn offensive. While I personally would've told you to piss off and go play in traffic, Allie is more sensitive than that. No one has to walk on eggshells around her, but if you had said any of that garbage to anybody else (say somebody more popular for instance?), people would've jumped up your @sses with sticks of dynamite. You're allowed to say what you want, but if you're going to be offensive children (and NOT take responsibility for what you've done) then expect people like myself (and I wager Lisa, among others, will join me on this) to not be so friendly with you in the future.
<i>Oh, and in case anyone was wondering, I will clear up someone's name. While Kiel (Ender) posted his two cents in a much inappropriate place and manner, his thread had nothing to do with Allie leaving.</i>
I don't agree with Allie 100% of the time, but take responsibility for what you said. I don't think she should've let people push her away. I personally, would've told anyone who made me feel that way to f*ck off. But don't go around now trying to damage control for the sh*t you said. Admit to it, be adults. You don't even need to apologize for it if you don't see the need. But don't cover it up like you didn't say what you said. You're adults, you can admit when you've said something sh*tty. I've done it many times before and I'm always adult enough to stand up and say "I acted like an @ss, I shouldn't have said X, Y, or Z, and I am truly sorry" la la la. Like I said, if you don't see the need to apologize, then don't. But don't pretend like you didn't say anything offensive, because that's crap.
In summary... Allie may have allowed people to push her away, but you people were really godd@mn offensive. While I personally would've told you to piss off and go play in traffic, Allie is more sensitive than that. No one has to walk on eggshells around her, but if you had said any of that garbage to anybody else (say somebody more popular for instance?), people would've jumped up your @sses with sticks of dynamite. You're allowed to say what you want, but if you're going to be offensive children (and NOT take responsibility for what you've done) then expect people like myself (and I wager Lisa, among others, will join me on this) to not be so friendly with you in the future.
<i>Oh, and in case anyone was wondering, I will clear up someone's name. While Kiel (Ender) posted his two cents in a much inappropriate place and manner, his thread had nothing to do with Allie leaving.</i>
JennifersHope
New member
I can't even believe I am going further in posting >> You know what I am not going to..
Yes I am...HA
I actually don't have an issue so much with the Santa thing really that was nothing to me.. what bothered me so much is the Post "I know no one cares about Ahava" That really bothered me because so many ppl on here have been so kind and loving to ALlie.. and the other thing that really bothers me is
ALlie has always prided herself on not sugarcoating anything at all..which is great for her, I have never seen her handle anyone with kid gloves when addressing the truth about CF, nor should she have to.. When people are asking they are asking her veiw.. so that is what they are going to get. but what bothers me is that when someone doesn't sugarcoat or say something so gently to Allie she gets upset....... We know she in sensitive, but I feel like if you can't take it harshness don't dish harshness.. (this has nothing to do with the Santa post, just in general)
If I went around and was blunt to others and then got upset because someone was blunt to me it would raise questions
I am sorry Allie's feelings got hurt...I just feel like I wanted to be true to how I felt as well.....
Yes I am...HA
I actually don't have an issue so much with the Santa thing really that was nothing to me.. what bothered me so much is the Post "I know no one cares about Ahava" That really bothered me because so many ppl on here have been so kind and loving to ALlie.. and the other thing that really bothers me is
ALlie has always prided herself on not sugarcoating anything at all..which is great for her, I have never seen her handle anyone with kid gloves when addressing the truth about CF, nor should she have to.. When people are asking they are asking her veiw.. so that is what they are going to get. but what bothers me is that when someone doesn't sugarcoat or say something so gently to Allie she gets upset....... We know she in sensitive, but I feel like if you can't take it harshness don't dish harshness.. (this has nothing to do with the Santa post, just in general)
If I went around and was blunt to others and then got upset because someone was blunt to me it would raise questions
I am sorry Allie's feelings got hurt...I just feel like I wanted to be true to how I felt as well.....
JennifersHope
New member
I can't even believe I am going further in posting >> You know what I am not going to..
Yes I am...HA
I actually don't have an issue so much with the Santa thing really that was nothing to me.. what bothered me so much is the Post "I know no one cares about Ahava" That really bothered me because so many ppl on here have been so kind and loving to ALlie.. and the other thing that really bothers me is
ALlie has always prided herself on not sugarcoating anything at all..which is great for her, I have never seen her handle anyone with kid gloves when addressing the truth about CF, nor should she have to.. When people are asking they are asking her veiw.. so that is what they are going to get. but what bothers me is that when someone doesn't sugarcoat or say something so gently to Allie she gets upset....... We know she in sensitive, but I feel like if you can't take it harshness don't dish harshness.. (this has nothing to do with the Santa post, just in general)
If I went around and was blunt to others and then got upset because someone was blunt to me it would raise questions
I am sorry Allie's feelings got hurt...I just feel like I wanted to be true to how I felt as well.....
Yes I am...HA
I actually don't have an issue so much with the Santa thing really that was nothing to me.. what bothered me so much is the Post "I know no one cares about Ahava" That really bothered me because so many ppl on here have been so kind and loving to ALlie.. and the other thing that really bothers me is
ALlie has always prided herself on not sugarcoating anything at all..which is great for her, I have never seen her handle anyone with kid gloves when addressing the truth about CF, nor should she have to.. When people are asking they are asking her veiw.. so that is what they are going to get. but what bothers me is that when someone doesn't sugarcoat or say something so gently to Allie she gets upset....... We know she in sensitive, but I feel like if you can't take it harshness don't dish harshness.. (this has nothing to do with the Santa post, just in general)
If I went around and was blunt to others and then got upset because someone was blunt to me it would raise questions
I am sorry Allie's feelings got hurt...I just feel like I wanted to be true to how I felt as well.....
JennifersHope
New member
I can't even believe I am going further in posting >> You know what I am not going to..
Yes I am...HA
I actually don't have an issue so much with the Santa thing really that was nothing to me.. what bothered me so much is the Post "I know no one cares about Ahava" That really bothered me because so many ppl on here have been so kind and loving to ALlie.. and the other thing that really bothers me is
ALlie has always prided herself on not sugarcoating anything at all..which is great for her, I have never seen her handle anyone with kid gloves when addressing the truth about CF, nor should she have to.. When people are asking they are asking her veiw.. so that is what they are going to get. but what bothers me is that when someone doesn't sugarcoat or say something so gently to Allie she gets upset....... We know she in sensitive, but I feel like if you can't take it harshness don't dish harshness.. (this has nothing to do with the Santa post, just in general)
If I went around and was blunt to others and then got upset because someone was blunt to me it would raise questions
I am sorry Allie's feelings got hurt...I just feel like I wanted to be true to how I felt as well.....
Yes I am...HA
I actually don't have an issue so much with the Santa thing really that was nothing to me.. what bothered me so much is the Post "I know no one cares about Ahava" That really bothered me because so many ppl on here have been so kind and loving to ALlie.. and the other thing that really bothers me is
ALlie has always prided herself on not sugarcoating anything at all..which is great for her, I have never seen her handle anyone with kid gloves when addressing the truth about CF, nor should she have to.. When people are asking they are asking her veiw.. so that is what they are going to get. but what bothers me is that when someone doesn't sugarcoat or say something so gently to Allie she gets upset....... We know she in sensitive, but I feel like if you can't take it harshness don't dish harshness.. (this has nothing to do with the Santa post, just in general)
If I went around and was blunt to others and then got upset because someone was blunt to me it would raise questions
I am sorry Allie's feelings got hurt...I just feel like I wanted to be true to how I felt as well.....
DietRootBeer
New member
Well,
I have to agree with Jennifershope! Allie can be raw and real which to some is a good quality and others may feel she lacks tact and sensitivity...but she gets really upset when people respond back in her very own style. I understand that she is going through a hard time right now but that does not give her a get out of jail for being rude free card all the time. If you cannot take it then do not dish it...you get back the energy you give out in this world. I am a bit tired of all of the Allie drama to be honest...it seems to follow her and it has gotten pretty old for me.
My 2 cents...don't agree? Oh well! Just my opinion.
I have to agree with Jennifershope! Allie can be raw and real which to some is a good quality and others may feel she lacks tact and sensitivity...but she gets really upset when people respond back in her very own style. I understand that she is going through a hard time right now but that does not give her a get out of jail for being rude free card all the time. If you cannot take it then do not dish it...you get back the energy you give out in this world. I am a bit tired of all of the Allie drama to be honest...it seems to follow her and it has gotten pretty old for me.
My 2 cents...don't agree? Oh well! Just my opinion.
DietRootBeer
New member
Well,
I have to agree with Jennifershope! Allie can be raw and real which to some is a good quality and others may feel she lacks tact and sensitivity...but she gets really upset when people respond back in her very own style. I understand that she is going through a hard time right now but that does not give her a get out of jail for being rude free card all the time. If you cannot take it then do not dish it...you get back the energy you give out in this world. I am a bit tired of all of the Allie drama to be honest...it seems to follow her and it has gotten pretty old for me.
My 2 cents...don't agree? Oh well! Just my opinion.
I have to agree with Jennifershope! Allie can be raw and real which to some is a good quality and others may feel she lacks tact and sensitivity...but she gets really upset when people respond back in her very own style. I understand that she is going through a hard time right now but that does not give her a get out of jail for being rude free card all the time. If you cannot take it then do not dish it...you get back the energy you give out in this world. I am a bit tired of all of the Allie drama to be honest...it seems to follow her and it has gotten pretty old for me.
My 2 cents...don't agree? Oh well! Just my opinion.
DietRootBeer
New member
Well,
I have to agree with Jennifershope! Allie can be raw and real which to some is a good quality and others may feel she lacks tact and sensitivity...but she gets really upset when people respond back in her very own style. I understand that she is going through a hard time right now but that does not give her a get out of jail for being rude free card all the time. If you cannot take it then do not dish it...you get back the energy you give out in this world. I am a bit tired of all of the Allie drama to be honest...it seems to follow her and it has gotten pretty old for me.
My 2 cents...don't agree? Oh well! Just my opinion.
I have to agree with Jennifershope! Allie can be raw and real which to some is a good quality and others may feel she lacks tact and sensitivity...but she gets really upset when people respond back in her very own style. I understand that she is going through a hard time right now but that does not give her a get out of jail for being rude free card all the time. If you cannot take it then do not dish it...you get back the energy you give out in this world. I am a bit tired of all of the Allie drama to be honest...it seems to follow her and it has gotten pretty old for me.
My 2 cents...don't agree? Oh well! Just my opinion.
Emily65Roses
New member
There's a difference between not sugarcoating a FACT (i.e. CF will kill you) and not sugarcoating a rude opinion (i.e. you raise your kid terribly and she's a rude little brat).
Mind you, I may not have the opinions quoted correctly, as they are all deleted now. But it was something to that effect.
The way the forum has always been in my opinion, has been share FACTS, share personal experiences. If you don't like someone personally, feel free to share it (I certainly do), but there's no reason to be name calling (and telling someone they raise their kid wrong is just as mean). I can say "Allie, I don't like the way you said this that and the other thing, and I don't agree with it," without saying "Allie you're a stupid whore of Babylon and you should go die in a car fire."
I am big on not sugarcoating, as all of you are fully aware of. But there are different degrees of it. Allie NEVER sugarcoats in regards to FACTS. CF is deadly, it will kill you, etc etc etc. She's much more reserved when it comes to not liking people. Trust me, her and I have discussed many people that we CAN'T STAND in private, and we rarely if ever say anything to these people personally. And if we do, it's always in the first way I mentioned. "Person X, we really think you could've said this better, and there was no need for this," not "Person X, we can't stand you and we think you should go drown in a vat of piss."
Mind you, I may not have the opinions quoted correctly, as they are all deleted now. But it was something to that effect.
The way the forum has always been in my opinion, has been share FACTS, share personal experiences. If you don't like someone personally, feel free to share it (I certainly do), but there's no reason to be name calling (and telling someone they raise their kid wrong is just as mean). I can say "Allie, I don't like the way you said this that and the other thing, and I don't agree with it," without saying "Allie you're a stupid whore of Babylon and you should go die in a car fire."
I am big on not sugarcoating, as all of you are fully aware of. But there are different degrees of it. Allie NEVER sugarcoats in regards to FACTS. CF is deadly, it will kill you, etc etc etc. She's much more reserved when it comes to not liking people. Trust me, her and I have discussed many people that we CAN'T STAND in private, and we rarely if ever say anything to these people personally. And if we do, it's always in the first way I mentioned. "Person X, we really think you could've said this better, and there was no need for this," not "Person X, we can't stand you and we think you should go drown in a vat of piss."
Emily65Roses
New member
There's a difference between not sugarcoating a FACT (i.e. CF will kill you) and not sugarcoating a rude opinion (i.e. you raise your kid terribly and she's a rude little brat).
Mind you, I may not have the opinions quoted correctly, as they are all deleted now. But it was something to that effect.
The way the forum has always been in my opinion, has been share FACTS, share personal experiences. If you don't like someone personally, feel free to share it (I certainly do), but there's no reason to be name calling (and telling someone they raise their kid wrong is just as mean). I can say "Allie, I don't like the way you said this that and the other thing, and I don't agree with it," without saying "Allie you're a stupid whore of Babylon and you should go die in a car fire."
I am big on not sugarcoating, as all of you are fully aware of. But there are different degrees of it. Allie NEVER sugarcoats in regards to FACTS. CF is deadly, it will kill you, etc etc etc. She's much more reserved when it comes to not liking people. Trust me, her and I have discussed many people that we CAN'T STAND in private, and we rarely if ever say anything to these people personally. And if we do, it's always in the first way I mentioned. "Person X, we really think you could've said this better, and there was no need for this," not "Person X, we can't stand you and we think you should go drown in a vat of piss."
Mind you, I may not have the opinions quoted correctly, as they are all deleted now. But it was something to that effect.
The way the forum has always been in my opinion, has been share FACTS, share personal experiences. If you don't like someone personally, feel free to share it (I certainly do), but there's no reason to be name calling (and telling someone they raise their kid wrong is just as mean). I can say "Allie, I don't like the way you said this that and the other thing, and I don't agree with it," without saying "Allie you're a stupid whore of Babylon and you should go die in a car fire."
I am big on not sugarcoating, as all of you are fully aware of. But there are different degrees of it. Allie NEVER sugarcoats in regards to FACTS. CF is deadly, it will kill you, etc etc etc. She's much more reserved when it comes to not liking people. Trust me, her and I have discussed many people that we CAN'T STAND in private, and we rarely if ever say anything to these people personally. And if we do, it's always in the first way I mentioned. "Person X, we really think you could've said this better, and there was no need for this," not "Person X, we can't stand you and we think you should go drown in a vat of piss."
Emily65Roses
New member
There's a difference between not sugarcoating a FACT (i.e. CF will kill you) and not sugarcoating a rude opinion (i.e. you raise your kid terribly and she's a rude little brat).
Mind you, I may not have the opinions quoted correctly, as they are all deleted now. But it was something to that effect.
The way the forum has always been in my opinion, has been share FACTS, share personal experiences. If you don't like someone personally, feel free to share it (I certainly do), but there's no reason to be name calling (and telling someone they raise their kid wrong is just as mean). I can say "Allie, I don't like the way you said this that and the other thing, and I don't agree with it," without saying "Allie you're a stupid whore of Babylon and you should go die in a car fire."
I am big on not sugarcoating, as all of you are fully aware of. But there are different degrees of it. Allie NEVER sugarcoats in regards to FACTS. CF is deadly, it will kill you, etc etc etc. She's much more reserved when it comes to not liking people. Trust me, her and I have discussed many people that we CAN'T STAND in private, and we rarely if ever say anything to these people personally. And if we do, it's always in the first way I mentioned. "Person X, we really think you could've said this better, and there was no need for this," not "Person X, we can't stand you and we think you should go drown in a vat of piss."
Mind you, I may not have the opinions quoted correctly, as they are all deleted now. But it was something to that effect.
The way the forum has always been in my opinion, has been share FACTS, share personal experiences. If you don't like someone personally, feel free to share it (I certainly do), but there's no reason to be name calling (and telling someone they raise their kid wrong is just as mean). I can say "Allie, I don't like the way you said this that and the other thing, and I don't agree with it," without saying "Allie you're a stupid whore of Babylon and you should go die in a car fire."
I am big on not sugarcoating, as all of you are fully aware of. But there are different degrees of it. Allie NEVER sugarcoats in regards to FACTS. CF is deadly, it will kill you, etc etc etc. She's much more reserved when it comes to not liking people. Trust me, her and I have discussed many people that we CAN'T STAND in private, and we rarely if ever say anything to these people personally. And if we do, it's always in the first way I mentioned. "Person X, we really think you could've said this better, and there was no need for this," not "Person X, we can't stand you and we think you should go drown in a vat of piss."
Wow, I came back to the site just in time! Atleast I got to say good-bye to Allie on chat last night. I know a little of went on, but not the whole story. And I think it is complete crap that you are comparing Allie being able to speak her mind freely in debating a topic...aka being blunt and harsh in your words. To someone making personal attacks on someones character. (I don't know what excatly was said, but I'm of the understanding that it turned personal in nature.)
Anyway, here is part of a PM I sent to Allie
"You are truely the only person on this forum that I have connected to on a personal level.
I'm just sorry that she had to turn it into a personal attack instead of just debating the issue. She must have felt like she was losing the debate...when someone is losing, they always turn to personal insults. It's just sad that people can't respect differences. The most ironic thing is that it seems to have been started by people trying to defend that Santa is not a lie...he is the spirit of Christmas. Boy did she show you what the spirit of christmas is all about...lol...be happy your Jewish!
Anyway, take some time off from the site...we all need to now and then. Hopefully you will want to come back after a SHORT break."
And that pretty much sums up how I feel.
Anyway, here is part of a PM I sent to Allie
"You are truely the only person on this forum that I have connected to on a personal level.
I'm just sorry that she had to turn it into a personal attack instead of just debating the issue. She must have felt like she was losing the debate...when someone is losing, they always turn to personal insults. It's just sad that people can't respect differences. The most ironic thing is that it seems to have been started by people trying to defend that Santa is not a lie...he is the spirit of Christmas. Boy did she show you what the spirit of christmas is all about...lol...be happy your Jewish!
Anyway, take some time off from the site...we all need to now and then. Hopefully you will want to come back after a SHORT break."
And that pretty much sums up how I feel.
Wow, I came back to the site just in time! Atleast I got to say good-bye to Allie on chat last night. I know a little of went on, but not the whole story. And I think it is complete crap that you are comparing Allie being able to speak her mind freely in debating a topic...aka being blunt and harsh in your words. To someone making personal attacks on someones character. (I don't know what excatly was said, but I'm of the understanding that it turned personal in nature.)
Anyway, here is part of a PM I sent to Allie
"You are truely the only person on this forum that I have connected to on a personal level.
I'm just sorry that she had to turn it into a personal attack instead of just debating the issue. She must have felt like she was losing the debate...when someone is losing, they always turn to personal insults. It's just sad that people can't respect differences. The most ironic thing is that it seems to have been started by people trying to defend that Santa is not a lie...he is the spirit of Christmas. Boy did she show you what the spirit of christmas is all about...lol...be happy your Jewish!
Anyway, take some time off from the site...we all need to now and then. Hopefully you will want to come back after a SHORT break."
And that pretty much sums up how I feel.
Anyway, here is part of a PM I sent to Allie
"You are truely the only person on this forum that I have connected to on a personal level.
I'm just sorry that she had to turn it into a personal attack instead of just debating the issue. She must have felt like she was losing the debate...when someone is losing, they always turn to personal insults. It's just sad that people can't respect differences. The most ironic thing is that it seems to have been started by people trying to defend that Santa is not a lie...he is the spirit of Christmas. Boy did she show you what the spirit of christmas is all about...lol...be happy your Jewish!
Anyway, take some time off from the site...we all need to now and then. Hopefully you will want to come back after a SHORT break."
And that pretty much sums up how I feel.
Wow, I came back to the site just in time! Atleast I got to say good-bye to Allie on chat last night. I know a little of went on, but not the whole story. And I think it is complete crap that you are comparing Allie being able to speak her mind freely in debating a topic...aka being blunt and harsh in your words. To someone making personal attacks on someones character. (I don't know what excatly was said, but I'm of the understanding that it turned personal in nature.)
Anyway, here is part of a PM I sent to Allie
"You are truely the only person on this forum that I have connected to on a personal level.
I'm just sorry that she had to turn it into a personal attack instead of just debating the issue. She must have felt like she was losing the debate...when someone is losing, they always turn to personal insults. It's just sad that people can't respect differences. The most ironic thing is that it seems to have been started by people trying to defend that Santa is not a lie...he is the spirit of Christmas. Boy did she show you what the spirit of christmas is all about...lol...be happy your Jewish!
Anyway, take some time off from the site...we all need to now and then. Hopefully you will want to come back after a SHORT break."
And that pretty much sums up how I feel.
Anyway, here is part of a PM I sent to Allie
"You are truely the only person on this forum that I have connected to on a personal level.
I'm just sorry that she had to turn it into a personal attack instead of just debating the issue. She must have felt like she was losing the debate...when someone is losing, they always turn to personal insults. It's just sad that people can't respect differences. The most ironic thing is that it seems to have been started by people trying to defend that Santa is not a lie...he is the spirit of Christmas. Boy did she show you what the spirit of christmas is all about...lol...be happy your Jewish!
Anyway, take some time off from the site...we all need to now and then. Hopefully you will want to come back after a SHORT break."
And that pretty much sums up how I feel.