Breastfeeding

Foody

New member
Shannon, I have too been where you are and you can make it work. My son had a dairy allergy up until a few months ago (he is now 3). His system went haywire whenever we had to supplement his diet. We only supplemented in the very beginning when we were recovering from being undiagnosed and when he stopped eating during RSV. They pressured me alot but he truly did better with breast milk alone (slowly but surely).

There are so many more reasons to continue than to stop breastfeeding. It is the single greatest thing you can give your child in terms of developing immune system, less chances of allergies down the road, the DHA in breastmilk is so important to CF children, and the fat is easily digestable. My site has many articles and studies if you feel you need them (and stories of mom who kept going).

Most doctors, even if they are pro-breastfeeding, don't understand how to work WITH the breastfeeding relationship. Their advice will often lead to lower milk supply and eventually interupts the natural supply and demand of breastfeeding. The advice to supplement is sometimes warranted and if baby isn't doing well very important. BUT there are ways to do it which will not interupt the breast milk supply.

How many nursings does he do right now and for how long? DO you feel your supply is healthy?

If you think you could boost your supple a bit you can try offering the breast more often and also some natural supplements to increase supply (fenugreek is a good one). Another thing to watch for is if you are introducing foods, always breastfeed first. Some moms will see a decrease in supply if they offer food earlier...it will fill them up and they end up missing a feeding thus reducing the supply. When a baby is ready for food they will eat after a feeding.

If you feel it isn't a supply thing and you feel supplementation is warranted, you could try something like this for 4-6 weeks and see what happens:

* In between his regular feeding (say about an 45 minutes to an hour after), pump some milk. Have 1 bottle ready to catch the foremilk only (milk which comes right after let down for about the first 3-5 minutes - lighter in color, more translucent). Have another ready to attach and collect only the hind milk (fatty, high calorie milk, white, more opaque). At first you won't get much because your not use to the extra stimulation. In a few days your supply will increase and you will notice a change.

* Collect all the hind milk pumpings into 2-4 ounce amounts (you may have to freeze them - I can give you resources on proper storage if you need them) and begin adding them to his regular feedings and if he is eating cereal you can make it with this as well.

* There are a few ways to offer this to him without interupting the supply and demand you already have. One is a cup or spoon after the first breast is offered. Even very small babies can sip from a small cup. The other way is using an SNS (supplemental nursing system) which connects a small tube along the breast onto the nipple. When he sucks he will get your milk and the hind milk supplement at the same time, thus doubling the hing milk per feeding. You could do this maybe 2x daily and go from there. Here is a supplier for SNS and cup feeders if you need one <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.medela.com/NewFiles/specialtyfdg.html
">http://www.medela.com/NewFiles/specialtyfdg.html
</a>
Our son was in the 5-10th percentile in the beginning and they wanted me to stop entirely. He would take nothing other than the breast and I just knew my body could provide what he needed. He kept gaining slowly but surely and once we were able to add a bit of "souped up cereal" here and there he kept climbing. Around 6 months or so he was up to the 25th and by 1 year the 40th. When he started eating we would add a little cocnut oil or MCT to his fruits/veggies/cereals. This weight gain was all without any dairy, so it can be done. Also, a change in enzymes can sometimes help. He didn't do as well on Creon as he has on Pancreacarb (we think it is the sodium bicarbonate).

Also, probiotics can help the intestines absorb even more so you may want to try adding a non-dairy probiotic.

Please email me directly if you'd like some more ideas at jody@meta4tech.com. I am out of town this week but will reply as soon as I can. You can do this and it may just be needed for a short time. This approach will also increase you milk supply rather than decrease it.

BEst of luck and please know you are not alone!
 

Foody

New member
Shannon, I have too been where you are and you can make it work. My son had a dairy allergy up until a few months ago (he is now 3). His system went haywire whenever we had to supplement his diet. We only supplemented in the very beginning when we were recovering from being undiagnosed and when he stopped eating during RSV. They pressured me alot but he truly did better with breast milk alone (slowly but surely).

There are so many more reasons to continue than to stop breastfeeding. It is the single greatest thing you can give your child in terms of developing immune system, less chances of allergies down the road, the DHA in breastmilk is so important to CF children, and the fat is easily digestable. My site has many articles and studies if you feel you need them (and stories of mom who kept going).

Most doctors, even if they are pro-breastfeeding, don't understand how to work WITH the breastfeeding relationship. Their advice will often lead to lower milk supply and eventually interupts the natural supply and demand of breastfeeding. The advice to supplement is sometimes warranted and if baby isn't doing well very important. BUT there are ways to do it which will not interupt the breast milk supply.

How many nursings does he do right now and for how long? DO you feel your supply is healthy?

If you think you could boost your supple a bit you can try offering the breast more often and also some natural supplements to increase supply (fenugreek is a good one). Another thing to watch for is if you are introducing foods, always breastfeed first. Some moms will see a decrease in supply if they offer food earlier...it will fill them up and they end up missing a feeding thus reducing the supply. When a baby is ready for food they will eat after a feeding.

If you feel it isn't a supply thing and you feel supplementation is warranted, you could try something like this for 4-6 weeks and see what happens:

* In between his regular feeding (say about an 45 minutes to an hour after), pump some milk. Have 1 bottle ready to catch the foremilk only (milk which comes right after let down for about the first 3-5 minutes - lighter in color, more translucent). Have another ready to attach and collect only the hind milk (fatty, high calorie milk, white, more opaque). At first you won't get much because your not use to the extra stimulation. In a few days your supply will increase and you will notice a change.

* Collect all the hind milk pumpings into 2-4 ounce amounts (you may have to freeze them - I can give you resources on proper storage if you need them) and begin adding them to his regular feedings and if he is eating cereal you can make it with this as well.

* There are a few ways to offer this to him without interupting the supply and demand you already have. One is a cup or spoon after the first breast is offered. Even very small babies can sip from a small cup. The other way is using an SNS (supplemental nursing system) which connects a small tube along the breast onto the nipple. When he sucks he will get your milk and the hind milk supplement at the same time, thus doubling the hing milk per feeding. You could do this maybe 2x daily and go from there. Here is a supplier for SNS and cup feeders if you need one <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.medela.com/NewFiles/specialtyfdg.html
">http://www.medela.com/NewFiles/specialtyfdg.html
</a>
Our son was in the 5-10th percentile in the beginning and they wanted me to stop entirely. He would take nothing other than the breast and I just knew my body could provide what he needed. He kept gaining slowly but surely and once we were able to add a bit of "souped up cereal" here and there he kept climbing. Around 6 months or so he was up to the 25th and by 1 year the 40th. When he started eating we would add a little cocnut oil or MCT to his fruits/veggies/cereals. This weight gain was all without any dairy, so it can be done. Also, a change in enzymes can sometimes help. He didn't do as well on Creon as he has on Pancreacarb (we think it is the sodium bicarbonate).

Also, probiotics can help the intestines absorb even more so you may want to try adding a non-dairy probiotic.

Please email me directly if you'd like some more ideas at jody@meta4tech.com. I am out of town this week but will reply as soon as I can. You can do this and it may just be needed for a short time. This approach will also increase you milk supply rather than decrease it.

BEst of luck and please know you are not alone!
 

Foody

New member
Shannon, I have too been where you are and you can make it work. My son had a dairy allergy up until a few months ago (he is now 3). His system went haywire whenever we had to supplement his diet. We only supplemented in the very beginning when we were recovering from being undiagnosed and when he stopped eating during RSV. They pressured me alot but he truly did better with breast milk alone (slowly but surely).

There are so many more reasons to continue than to stop breastfeeding. It is the single greatest thing you can give your child in terms of developing immune system, less chances of allergies down the road, the DHA in breastmilk is so important to CF children, and the fat is easily digestable. My site has many articles and studies if you feel you need them (and stories of mom who kept going).

Most doctors, even if they are pro-breastfeeding, don't understand how to work WITH the breastfeeding relationship. Their advice will often lead to lower milk supply and eventually interupts the natural supply and demand of breastfeeding. The advice to supplement is sometimes warranted and if baby isn't doing well very important. BUT there are ways to do it which will not interupt the breast milk supply.

How many nursings does he do right now and for how long? DO you feel your supply is healthy?

If you think you could boost your supple a bit you can try offering the breast more often and also some natural supplements to increase supply (fenugreek is a good one). Another thing to watch for is if you are introducing foods, always breastfeed first. Some moms will see a decrease in supply if they offer food earlier...it will fill them up and they end up missing a feeding thus reducing the supply. When a baby is ready for food they will eat after a feeding.

If you feel it isn't a supply thing and you feel supplementation is warranted, you could try something like this for 4-6 weeks and see what happens:

* In between his regular feeding (say about an 45 minutes to an hour after), pump some milk. Have 1 bottle ready to catch the foremilk only (milk which comes right after let down for about the first 3-5 minutes - lighter in color, more translucent). Have another ready to attach and collect only the hind milk (fatty, high calorie milk, white, more opaque). At first you won't get much because your not use to the extra stimulation. In a few days your supply will increase and you will notice a change.

* Collect all the hind milk pumpings into 2-4 ounce amounts (you may have to freeze them - I can give you resources on proper storage if you need them) and begin adding them to his regular feedings and if he is eating cereal you can make it with this as well.

* There are a few ways to offer this to him without interupting the supply and demand you already have. One is a cup or spoon after the first breast is offered. Even very small babies can sip from a small cup. The other way is using an SNS (supplemental nursing system) which connects a small tube along the breast onto the nipple. When he sucks he will get your milk and the hind milk supplement at the same time, thus doubling the hing milk per feeding. You could do this maybe 2x daily and go from there. Here is a supplier for SNS and cup feeders if you need one <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.medela.com/NewFiles/specialtyfdg.html
">http://www.medela.com/NewFiles/specialtyfdg.html
</a>
Our son was in the 5-10th percentile in the beginning and they wanted me to stop entirely. He would take nothing other than the breast and I just knew my body could provide what he needed. He kept gaining slowly but surely and once we were able to add a bit of "souped up cereal" here and there he kept climbing. Around 6 months or so he was up to the 25th and by 1 year the 40th. When he started eating we would add a little cocnut oil or MCT to his fruits/veggies/cereals. This weight gain was all without any dairy, so it can be done. Also, a change in enzymes can sometimes help. He didn't do as well on Creon as he has on Pancreacarb (we think it is the sodium bicarbonate).

Also, probiotics can help the intestines absorb even more so you may want to try adding a non-dairy probiotic.

Please email me directly if you'd like some more ideas at jody@meta4tech.com. I am out of town this week but will reply as soon as I can. You can do this and it may just be needed for a short time. This approach will also increase you milk supply rather than decrease it.

BEst of luck and please know you are not alone!
 

Foody

New member
Shannon, I have too been where you are and you can make it work. My son had a dairy allergy up until a few months ago (he is now 3). His system went haywire whenever we had to supplement his diet. We only supplemented in the very beginning when we were recovering from being undiagnosed and when he stopped eating during RSV. They pressured me alot but he truly did better with breast milk alone (slowly but surely).

There are so many more reasons to continue than to stop breastfeeding. It is the single greatest thing you can give your child in terms of developing immune system, less chances of allergies down the road, the DHA in breastmilk is so important to CF children, and the fat is easily digestable. My site has many articles and studies if you feel you need them (and stories of mom who kept going).

Most doctors, even if they are pro-breastfeeding, don't understand how to work WITH the breastfeeding relationship. Their advice will often lead to lower milk supply and eventually interupts the natural supply and demand of breastfeeding. The advice to supplement is sometimes warranted and if baby isn't doing well very important. BUT there are ways to do it which will not interupt the breast milk supply.

How many nursings does he do right now and for how long? DO you feel your supply is healthy?

If you think you could boost your supple a bit you can try offering the breast more often and also some natural supplements to increase supply (fenugreek is a good one). Another thing to watch for is if you are introducing foods, always breastfeed first. Some moms will see a decrease in supply if they offer food earlier...it will fill them up and they end up missing a feeding thus reducing the supply. When a baby is ready for food they will eat after a feeding.

If you feel it isn't a supply thing and you feel supplementation is warranted, you could try something like this for 4-6 weeks and see what happens:

* In between his regular feeding (say about an 45 minutes to an hour after), pump some milk. Have 1 bottle ready to catch the foremilk only (milk which comes right after let down for about the first 3-5 minutes - lighter in color, more translucent). Have another ready to attach and collect only the hind milk (fatty, high calorie milk, white, more opaque). At first you won't get much because your not use to the extra stimulation. In a few days your supply will increase and you will notice a change.

* Collect all the hind milk pumpings into 2-4 ounce amounts (you may have to freeze them - I can give you resources on proper storage if you need them) and begin adding them to his regular feedings and if he is eating cereal you can make it with this as well.

* There are a few ways to offer this to him without interupting the supply and demand you already have. One is a cup or spoon after the first breast is offered. Even very small babies can sip from a small cup. The other way is using an SNS (supplemental nursing system) which connects a small tube along the breast onto the nipple. When he sucks he will get your milk and the hind milk supplement at the same time, thus doubling the hing milk per feeding. You could do this maybe 2x daily and go from there. Here is a supplier for SNS and cup feeders if you need one <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.medela.com/NewFiles/specialtyfdg.html
">http://www.medela.com/NewFiles/specialtyfdg.html
</a>
Our son was in the 5-10th percentile in the beginning and they wanted me to stop entirely. He would take nothing other than the breast and I just knew my body could provide what he needed. He kept gaining slowly but surely and once we were able to add a bit of "souped up cereal" here and there he kept climbing. Around 6 months or so he was up to the 25th and by 1 year the 40th. When he started eating we would add a little cocnut oil or MCT to his fruits/veggies/cereals. This weight gain was all without any dairy, so it can be done. Also, a change in enzymes can sometimes help. He didn't do as well on Creon as he has on Pancreacarb (we think it is the sodium bicarbonate).

Also, probiotics can help the intestines absorb even more so you may want to try adding a non-dairy probiotic.

Please email me directly if you'd like some more ideas at jody@meta4tech.com. I am out of town this week but will reply as soon as I can. You can do this and it may just be needed for a short time. This approach will also increase you milk supply rather than decrease it.

BEst of luck and please know you are not alone!
 

Foody

New member
Shannon, I have too been where you are and you can make it work. My son had a dairy allergy up until a few months ago (he is now 3). His system went haywire whenever we had to supplement his diet. We only supplemented in the very beginning when we were recovering from being undiagnosed and when he stopped eating during RSV. They pressured me alot but he truly did better with breast milk alone (slowly but surely).

There are so many more reasons to continue than to stop breastfeeding. It is the single greatest thing you can give your child in terms of developing immune system, less chances of allergies down the road, the DHA in breastmilk is so important to CF children, and the fat is easily digestable. My site has many articles and studies if you feel you need them (and stories of mom who kept going).

Most doctors, even if they are pro-breastfeeding, don't understand how to work WITH the breastfeeding relationship. Their advice will often lead to lower milk supply and eventually interupts the natural supply and demand of breastfeeding. The advice to supplement is sometimes warranted and if baby isn't doing well very important. BUT there are ways to do it which will not interupt the breast milk supply.

How many nursings does he do right now and for how long? DO you feel your supply is healthy?

If you think you could boost your supple a bit you can try offering the breast more often and also some natural supplements to increase supply (fenugreek is a good one). Another thing to watch for is if you are introducing foods, always breastfeed first. Some moms will see a decrease in supply if they offer food earlier...it will fill them up and they end up missing a feeding thus reducing the supply. When a baby is ready for food they will eat after a feeding.

If you feel it isn't a supply thing and you feel supplementation is warranted, you could try something like this for 4-6 weeks and see what happens:

* In between his regular feeding (say about an 45 minutes to an hour after), pump some milk. Have 1 bottle ready to catch the foremilk only (milk which comes right after let down for about the first 3-5 minutes - lighter in color, more translucent). Have another ready to attach and collect only the hind milk (fatty, high calorie milk, white, more opaque). At first you won't get much because your not use to the extra stimulation. In a few days your supply will increase and you will notice a change.

* Collect all the hind milk pumpings into 2-4 ounce amounts (you may have to freeze them - I can give you resources on proper storage if you need them) and begin adding them to his regular feedings and if he is eating cereal you can make it with this as well.

* There are a few ways to offer this to him without interupting the supply and demand you already have. One is a cup or spoon after the first breast is offered. Even very small babies can sip from a small cup. The other way is using an SNS (supplemental nursing system) which connects a small tube along the breast onto the nipple. When he sucks he will get your milk and the hind milk supplement at the same time, thus doubling the hing milk per feeding. You could do this maybe 2x daily and go from there. Here is a supplier for SNS and cup feeders if you need one <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.medela.com/NewFiles/specialtyfdg.html
">http://www.medela.com/NewFiles/specialtyfdg.html
</a>
Our son was in the 5-10th percentile in the beginning and they wanted me to stop entirely. He would take nothing other than the breast and I just knew my body could provide what he needed. He kept gaining slowly but surely and once we were able to add a bit of "souped up cereal" here and there he kept climbing. Around 6 months or so he was up to the 25th and by 1 year the 40th. When he started eating we would add a little cocnut oil or MCT to his fruits/veggies/cereals. This weight gain was all without any dairy, so it can be done. Also, a change in enzymes can sometimes help. He didn't do as well on Creon as he has on Pancreacarb (we think it is the sodium bicarbonate).

Also, probiotics can help the intestines absorb even more so you may want to try adding a non-dairy probiotic.

Please email me directly if you'd like some more ideas at jody@meta4tech.com. I am out of town this week but will reply as soon as I can. You can do this and it may just be needed for a short time. This approach will also increase you milk supply rather than decrease it.

BEst of luck and please know you are not alone!
 

okok

New member
Wow! It is so great to see all these posts from such wonderful, commited breastfeeding supportive mamas. It sounds to me as if you all have worked so hard so your babies/toddlers could enjoy all the benefits of breastmilk and i really admire all of you for doing so!

I second the drinking water with every nursing session, the cod liver oil or fish oil capsules to boost DHA levels of breastmilk (nordic natuarals is a good brand without any harmful contaminants) and plenty of rest and relaxation (I know it is hardly possible when you are fretting over your child's weight.) Also like foody I gave my babies probiotics before they even started solids. I got them from my naturopath friend but i am not sure if they were non-dairy. I know they were in lactose so that baby would like the flavor which the bottle claimed was similar to breastmilk. I think it was called infant HMF (human mircroflora) powder from genestra or seroyal. I just looked at an old bottle and it was called HMF natogen and says "product ideal for vegans" so i am assuming it is dairy free but you would probably want to double check to be sure. Unfortunately i think it must be purchased through a doctor or naturopath...something about the way seroyal works.

Also when i was concerned about my supply i took gaia herbs lactate support which comes in a handy capsule form AND a fenugreek tablet two times a day. I think once when i couldn't find the gaia herbs lactate support at whole foods i bought some mother's milk lactation support capsules (some whole foods carry both some only the mother's milk)... I get capsules cause i'm not fond of tinctures (yuk!.) Anyway unfortunately both the gaia herbs and the mother's milk were $$$ but they did help. I think the main ingrediant was fenugreek though but they also had blessed thistle and maybe nettles and some other stuff reportedly good for boosting milk supply. The most important thing for me though was getting enough water and sleep. Although i do think the herbs helped. As someone already mentioned oatmeal is good to eat too but i found it hard. It is so rich or something. You might want to incorporate more coconut oil into your diet since it is one of the most abundant sources for an important fatty acid in breastmilk (lauric acid) and is susposed to have immune boosting properties. Maybe eating coconut oil will increase the concentrations of lauric acid in breastmilk?? Anyway, again hang in there!! It sounds to me as if you are doing a wonderful job!
 

okok

New member
Wow! It is so great to see all these posts from such wonderful, commited breastfeeding supportive mamas. It sounds to me as if you all have worked so hard so your babies/toddlers could enjoy all the benefits of breastmilk and i really admire all of you for doing so!

I second the drinking water with every nursing session, the cod liver oil or fish oil capsules to boost DHA levels of breastmilk (nordic natuarals is a good brand without any harmful contaminants) and plenty of rest and relaxation (I know it is hardly possible when you are fretting over your child's weight.) Also like foody I gave my babies probiotics before they even started solids. I got them from my naturopath friend but i am not sure if they were non-dairy. I know they were in lactose so that baby would like the flavor which the bottle claimed was similar to breastmilk. I think it was called infant HMF (human mircroflora) powder from genestra or seroyal. I just looked at an old bottle and it was called HMF natogen and says "product ideal for vegans" so i am assuming it is dairy free but you would probably want to double check to be sure. Unfortunately i think it must be purchased through a doctor or naturopath...something about the way seroyal works.

Also when i was concerned about my supply i took gaia herbs lactate support which comes in a handy capsule form AND a fenugreek tablet two times a day. I think once when i couldn't find the gaia herbs lactate support at whole foods i bought some mother's milk lactation support capsules (some whole foods carry both some only the mother's milk)... I get capsules cause i'm not fond of tinctures (yuk!.) Anyway unfortunately both the gaia herbs and the mother's milk were $$$ but they did help. I think the main ingrediant was fenugreek though but they also had blessed thistle and maybe nettles and some other stuff reportedly good for boosting milk supply. The most important thing for me though was getting enough water and sleep. Although i do think the herbs helped. As someone already mentioned oatmeal is good to eat too but i found it hard. It is so rich or something. You might want to incorporate more coconut oil into your diet since it is one of the most abundant sources for an important fatty acid in breastmilk (lauric acid) and is susposed to have immune boosting properties. Maybe eating coconut oil will increase the concentrations of lauric acid in breastmilk?? Anyway, again hang in there!! It sounds to me as if you are doing a wonderful job!
 

okok

New member
Wow! It is so great to see all these posts from such wonderful, commited breastfeeding supportive mamas. It sounds to me as if you all have worked so hard so your babies/toddlers could enjoy all the benefits of breastmilk and i really admire all of you for doing so!

I second the drinking water with every nursing session, the cod liver oil or fish oil capsules to boost DHA levels of breastmilk (nordic natuarals is a good brand without any harmful contaminants) and plenty of rest and relaxation (I know it is hardly possible when you are fretting over your child's weight.) Also like foody I gave my babies probiotics before they even started solids. I got them from my naturopath friend but i am not sure if they were non-dairy. I know they were in lactose so that baby would like the flavor which the bottle claimed was similar to breastmilk. I think it was called infant HMF (human mircroflora) powder from genestra or seroyal. I just looked at an old bottle and it was called HMF natogen and says "product ideal for vegans" so i am assuming it is dairy free but you would probably want to double check to be sure. Unfortunately i think it must be purchased through a doctor or naturopath...something about the way seroyal works.

Also when i was concerned about my supply i took gaia herbs lactate support which comes in a handy capsule form AND a fenugreek tablet two times a day. I think once when i couldn't find the gaia herbs lactate support at whole foods i bought some mother's milk lactation support capsules (some whole foods carry both some only the mother's milk)... I get capsules cause i'm not fond of tinctures (yuk!.) Anyway unfortunately both the gaia herbs and the mother's milk were $$$ but they did help. I think the main ingrediant was fenugreek though but they also had blessed thistle and maybe nettles and some other stuff reportedly good for boosting milk supply. The most important thing for me though was getting enough water and sleep. Although i do think the herbs helped. As someone already mentioned oatmeal is good to eat too but i found it hard. It is so rich or something. You might want to incorporate more coconut oil into your diet since it is one of the most abundant sources for an important fatty acid in breastmilk (lauric acid) and is susposed to have immune boosting properties. Maybe eating coconut oil will increase the concentrations of lauric acid in breastmilk?? Anyway, again hang in there!! It sounds to me as if you are doing a wonderful job!
 

okok

New member
Wow! It is so great to see all these posts from such wonderful, commited breastfeeding supportive mamas. It sounds to me as if you all have worked so hard so your babies/toddlers could enjoy all the benefits of breastmilk and i really admire all of you for doing so!

I second the drinking water with every nursing session, the cod liver oil or fish oil capsules to boost DHA levels of breastmilk (nordic natuarals is a good brand without any harmful contaminants) and plenty of rest and relaxation (I know it is hardly possible when you are fretting over your child's weight.) Also like foody I gave my babies probiotics before they even started solids. I got them from my naturopath friend but i am not sure if they were non-dairy. I know they were in lactose so that baby would like the flavor which the bottle claimed was similar to breastmilk. I think it was called infant HMF (human mircroflora) powder from genestra or seroyal. I just looked at an old bottle and it was called HMF natogen and says "product ideal for vegans" so i am assuming it is dairy free but you would probably want to double check to be sure. Unfortunately i think it must be purchased through a doctor or naturopath...something about the way seroyal works.

Also when i was concerned about my supply i took gaia herbs lactate support which comes in a handy capsule form AND a fenugreek tablet two times a day. I think once when i couldn't find the gaia herbs lactate support at whole foods i bought some mother's milk lactation support capsules (some whole foods carry both some only the mother's milk)... I get capsules cause i'm not fond of tinctures (yuk!.) Anyway unfortunately both the gaia herbs and the mother's milk were $$$ but they did help. I think the main ingrediant was fenugreek though but they also had blessed thistle and maybe nettles and some other stuff reportedly good for boosting milk supply. The most important thing for me though was getting enough water and sleep. Although i do think the herbs helped. As someone already mentioned oatmeal is good to eat too but i found it hard. It is so rich or something. You might want to incorporate more coconut oil into your diet since it is one of the most abundant sources for an important fatty acid in breastmilk (lauric acid) and is susposed to have immune boosting properties. Maybe eating coconut oil will increase the concentrations of lauric acid in breastmilk?? Anyway, again hang in there!! It sounds to me as if you are doing a wonderful job!
 

okok

New member
Wow! It is so great to see all these posts from such wonderful, commited breastfeeding supportive mamas. It sounds to me as if you all have worked so hard so your babies/toddlers could enjoy all the benefits of breastmilk and i really admire all of you for doing so!

I second the drinking water with every nursing session, the cod liver oil or fish oil capsules to boost DHA levels of breastmilk (nordic natuarals is a good brand without any harmful contaminants) and plenty of rest and relaxation (I know it is hardly possible when you are fretting over your child's weight.) Also like foody I gave my babies probiotics before they even started solids. I got them from my naturopath friend but i am not sure if they were non-dairy. I know they were in lactose so that baby would like the flavor which the bottle claimed was similar to breastmilk. I think it was called infant HMF (human mircroflora) powder from genestra or seroyal. I just looked at an old bottle and it was called HMF natogen and says "product ideal for vegans" so i am assuming it is dairy free but you would probably want to double check to be sure. Unfortunately i think it must be purchased through a doctor or naturopath...something about the way seroyal works.

Also when i was concerned about my supply i took gaia herbs lactate support which comes in a handy capsule form AND a fenugreek tablet two times a day. I think once when i couldn't find the gaia herbs lactate support at whole foods i bought some mother's milk lactation support capsules (some whole foods carry both some only the mother's milk)... I get capsules cause i'm not fond of tinctures (yuk!.) Anyway unfortunately both the gaia herbs and the mother's milk were $$$ but they did help. I think the main ingrediant was fenugreek though but they also had blessed thistle and maybe nettles and some other stuff reportedly good for boosting milk supply. The most important thing for me though was getting enough water and sleep. Although i do think the herbs helped. As someone already mentioned oatmeal is good to eat too but i found it hard. It is so rich or something. You might want to incorporate more coconut oil into your diet since it is one of the most abundant sources for an important fatty acid in breastmilk (lauric acid) and is susposed to have immune boosting properties. Maybe eating coconut oil will increase the concentrations of lauric acid in breastmilk?? Anyway, again hang in there!! It sounds to me as if you are doing a wonderful job!
 

sdavis227

New member
Again, thank you so much ladies! Okok is right - this is awesome support and great advice.

Parker is taking 1 pancreacarb MT8 with each feeding. He was only eating 5x a day a month ago, but now he's eating 6x a day. The last couple of nights I have tried to add an extra feeding in the night ( i can only do one extra because he can't have more than 7 of his enzymes a day). I don't think that my milk supply is as much as it was with my first child (no cf), but it seems enough for Parker. He's the one that stops the feedings and always has a couple of good wet burps afterwards.

I went ahead and ordered some mct oil and it should be here today or tomorrow. Still not sure how much I should give him, but might just call my regular ped and see if he knows. I also got an appointment with an allergy specialist for tomorrow afternoon, so hopefully we can find out something there. I've stopped drinking milk, but forget how much dairy I actually eat in a day. We'll see what the doc says tomorrow.

I'll also have to look into the fenugreek and gaia herbs lactate stuff when I go into town today (we live in somewhat of a small town, so it can sometimes be hard to find things).

I've also tried to drink a lot more water in the past couple of days. I usually drink quite a bit of pop everyday and I know that dehydrates.
I think the biggest thing is that I never had to worry about this with my first son. He was smaller too, but no one worried. That's why I'm so glad you ladies are here with such great advice!

I haven't even thought of probiotics and will probably wait until after I give everything else a try? Don't want to overdue anything. What about the fish oil capsules? Is this usually in fish and other seafood? (I never eat fish)
 

sdavis227

New member
Again, thank you so much ladies! Okok is right - this is awesome support and great advice.

Parker is taking 1 pancreacarb MT8 with each feeding. He was only eating 5x a day a month ago, but now he's eating 6x a day. The last couple of nights I have tried to add an extra feeding in the night ( i can only do one extra because he can't have more than 7 of his enzymes a day). I don't think that my milk supply is as much as it was with my first child (no cf), but it seems enough for Parker. He's the one that stops the feedings and always has a couple of good wet burps afterwards.

I went ahead and ordered some mct oil and it should be here today or tomorrow. Still not sure how much I should give him, but might just call my regular ped and see if he knows. I also got an appointment with an allergy specialist for tomorrow afternoon, so hopefully we can find out something there. I've stopped drinking milk, but forget how much dairy I actually eat in a day. We'll see what the doc says tomorrow.

I'll also have to look into the fenugreek and gaia herbs lactate stuff when I go into town today (we live in somewhat of a small town, so it can sometimes be hard to find things).

I've also tried to drink a lot more water in the past couple of days. I usually drink quite a bit of pop everyday and I know that dehydrates.
I think the biggest thing is that I never had to worry about this with my first son. He was smaller too, but no one worried. That's why I'm so glad you ladies are here with such great advice!

I haven't even thought of probiotics and will probably wait until after I give everything else a try? Don't want to overdue anything. What about the fish oil capsules? Is this usually in fish and other seafood? (I never eat fish)
 

sdavis227

New member
Again, thank you so much ladies! Okok is right - this is awesome support and great advice.

Parker is taking 1 pancreacarb MT8 with each feeding. He was only eating 5x a day a month ago, but now he's eating 6x a day. The last couple of nights I have tried to add an extra feeding in the night ( i can only do one extra because he can't have more than 7 of his enzymes a day). I don't think that my milk supply is as much as it was with my first child (no cf), but it seems enough for Parker. He's the one that stops the feedings and always has a couple of good wet burps afterwards.

I went ahead and ordered some mct oil and it should be here today or tomorrow. Still not sure how much I should give him, but might just call my regular ped and see if he knows. I also got an appointment with an allergy specialist for tomorrow afternoon, so hopefully we can find out something there. I've stopped drinking milk, but forget how much dairy I actually eat in a day. We'll see what the doc says tomorrow.

I'll also have to look into the fenugreek and gaia herbs lactate stuff when I go into town today (we live in somewhat of a small town, so it can sometimes be hard to find things).

I've also tried to drink a lot more water in the past couple of days. I usually drink quite a bit of pop everyday and I know that dehydrates.
I think the biggest thing is that I never had to worry about this with my first son. He was smaller too, but no one worried. That's why I'm so glad you ladies are here with such great advice!

I haven't even thought of probiotics and will probably wait until after I give everything else a try? Don't want to overdue anything. What about the fish oil capsules? Is this usually in fish and other seafood? (I never eat fish)
 

sdavis227

New member
Again, thank you so much ladies! Okok is right - this is awesome support and great advice.

Parker is taking 1 pancreacarb MT8 with each feeding. He was only eating 5x a day a month ago, but now he's eating 6x a day. The last couple of nights I have tried to add an extra feeding in the night ( i can only do one extra because he can't have more than 7 of his enzymes a day). I don't think that my milk supply is as much as it was with my first child (no cf), but it seems enough for Parker. He's the one that stops the feedings and always has a couple of good wet burps afterwards.

I went ahead and ordered some mct oil and it should be here today or tomorrow. Still not sure how much I should give him, but might just call my regular ped and see if he knows. I also got an appointment with an allergy specialist for tomorrow afternoon, so hopefully we can find out something there. I've stopped drinking milk, but forget how much dairy I actually eat in a day. We'll see what the doc says tomorrow.

I'll also have to look into the fenugreek and gaia herbs lactate stuff when I go into town today (we live in somewhat of a small town, so it can sometimes be hard to find things).

I've also tried to drink a lot more water in the past couple of days. I usually drink quite a bit of pop everyday and I know that dehydrates.
I think the biggest thing is that I never had to worry about this with my first son. He was smaller too, but no one worried. That's why I'm so glad you ladies are here with such great advice!

I haven't even thought of probiotics and will probably wait until after I give everything else a try? Don't want to overdue anything. What about the fish oil capsules? Is this usually in fish and other seafood? (I never eat fish)
 

sdavis227

New member
Again, thank you so much ladies! Okok is right - this is awesome support and great advice.

Parker is taking 1 pancreacarb MT8 with each feeding. He was only eating 5x a day a month ago, but now he's eating 6x a day. The last couple of nights I have tried to add an extra feeding in the night ( i can only do one extra because he can't have more than 7 of his enzymes a day). I don't think that my milk supply is as much as it was with my first child (no cf), but it seems enough for Parker. He's the one that stops the feedings and always has a couple of good wet burps afterwards.

I went ahead and ordered some mct oil and it should be here today or tomorrow. Still not sure how much I should give him, but might just call my regular ped and see if he knows. I also got an appointment with an allergy specialist for tomorrow afternoon, so hopefully we can find out something there. I've stopped drinking milk, but forget how much dairy I actually eat in a day. We'll see what the doc says tomorrow.

I'll also have to look into the fenugreek and gaia herbs lactate stuff when I go into town today (we live in somewhat of a small town, so it can sometimes be hard to find things).

I've also tried to drink a lot more water in the past couple of days. I usually drink quite a bit of pop everyday and I know that dehydrates.
I think the biggest thing is that I never had to worry about this with my first son. He was smaller too, but no one worried. That's why I'm so glad you ladies are here with such great advice!

I haven't even thought of probiotics and will probably wait until after I give everything else a try? Don't want to overdue anything. What about the fish oil capsules? Is this usually in fish and other seafood? (I never eat fish)
 

GriffinsMama

New member
Hi,

I also took flax oil before, during and after my pregnancy and was surprised and happy that it was so important and useful for my cf baby. Griffin was also below the 5th percentile when diagnosed and has steadily exceeded his growth curve since. We never stopped nursing, it was recommended by the Dr's wee saw thankfully, and he's still breastfed. He's at 50th % BMI now at 22 mos. which I'm happy about. <br><br>

Griffin doesn't have food allergies so I can't help there. He ate whipped avocado as his first food. Awesome healthy fat. I never shied away from healthy fats as long as I was nursing and still don't. I use coconut oil, Nutiva extra-virgin, for both of us as well. I mix it with organic butter (1/3 butter to 2/3 coconut oil, whipped)and some celtic sea salt and use it on everything! Sweet and savory. <br><br>

Keep up the good work Mama! I hope you can figure out if it is truly an allergy that Parker has. Have you figured anything out yet? What are his Dr's saying?

Take care and we're all hoping for the best for you both,
 

GriffinsMama

New member
Hi,

I also took flax oil before, during and after my pregnancy and was surprised and happy that it was so important and useful for my cf baby. Griffin was also below the 5th percentile when diagnosed and has steadily exceeded his growth curve since. We never stopped nursing, it was recommended by the Dr's wee saw thankfully, and he's still breastfed. He's at 50th % BMI now at 22 mos. which I'm happy about. <br><br>

Griffin doesn't have food allergies so I can't help there. He ate whipped avocado as his first food. Awesome healthy fat. I never shied away from healthy fats as long as I was nursing and still don't. I use coconut oil, Nutiva extra-virgin, for both of us as well. I mix it with organic butter (1/3 butter to 2/3 coconut oil, whipped)and some celtic sea salt and use it on everything! Sweet and savory. <br><br>

Keep up the good work Mama! I hope you can figure out if it is truly an allergy that Parker has. Have you figured anything out yet? What are his Dr's saying?

Take care and we're all hoping for the best for you both,
 

GriffinsMama

New member
Hi,

I also took flax oil before, during and after my pregnancy and was surprised and happy that it was so important and useful for my cf baby. Griffin was also below the 5th percentile when diagnosed and has steadily exceeded his growth curve since. We never stopped nursing, it was recommended by the Dr's wee saw thankfully, and he's still breastfed. He's at 50th % BMI now at 22 mos. which I'm happy about. <br><br>

Griffin doesn't have food allergies so I can't help there. He ate whipped avocado as his first food. Awesome healthy fat. I never shied away from healthy fats as long as I was nursing and still don't. I use coconut oil, Nutiva extra-virgin, for both of us as well. I mix it with organic butter (1/3 butter to 2/3 coconut oil, whipped)and some celtic sea salt and use it on everything! Sweet and savory. <br><br>

Keep up the good work Mama! I hope you can figure out if it is truly an allergy that Parker has. Have you figured anything out yet? What are his Dr's saying?

Take care and we're all hoping for the best for you both,
 

GriffinsMama

New member
Hi,

I also took flax oil before, during and after my pregnancy and was surprised and happy that it was so important and useful for my cf baby. Griffin was also below the 5th percentile when diagnosed and has steadily exceeded his growth curve since. We never stopped nursing, it was recommended by the Dr's wee saw thankfully, and he's still breastfed. He's at 50th % BMI now at 22 mos. which I'm happy about. <br><br>

Griffin doesn't have food allergies so I can't help there. He ate whipped avocado as his first food. Awesome healthy fat. I never shied away from healthy fats as long as I was nursing and still don't. I use coconut oil, Nutiva extra-virgin, for both of us as well. I mix it with organic butter (1/3 butter to 2/3 coconut oil, whipped)and some celtic sea salt and use it on everything! Sweet and savory. <br><br>

Keep up the good work Mama! I hope you can figure out if it is truly an allergy that Parker has. Have you figured anything out yet? What are his Dr's saying?

Take care and we're all hoping for the best for you both,
 

GriffinsMama

New member
Hi,

I also took flax oil before, during and after my pregnancy and was surprised and happy that it was so important and useful for my cf baby. Griffin was also below the 5th percentile when diagnosed and has steadily exceeded his growth curve since. We never stopped nursing, it was recommended by the Dr's wee saw thankfully, and he's still breastfed. He's at 50th % BMI now at 22 mos. which I'm happy about. <br><br>

Griffin doesn't have food allergies so I can't help there. He ate whipped avocado as his first food. Awesome healthy fat. I never shied away from healthy fats as long as I was nursing and still don't. I use coconut oil, Nutiva extra-virgin, for both of us as well. I mix it with organic butter (1/3 butter to 2/3 coconut oil, whipped)and some celtic sea salt and use it on everything! Sweet and savory. <br><br>

Keep up the good work Mama! I hope you can figure out if it is truly an allergy that Parker has. Have you figured anything out yet? What are his Dr's saying?

Take care and we're all hoping for the best for you both,
 
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