Can't vs. Shouldn't

sue35

New member
I should apologize. I guess I didn't mean I didn't get the point of it, I just thought it was a little judgemental against people. But I am sure I read it wrong
 

sue35

New member
I should apologize. I guess I didn't mean I didn't get the point of it, I just thought it was a little judgemental against people. But I am sure I read it wrong
 

sue35

New member
I should apologize. I guess I didn't mean I didn't get the point of it, I just thought it was a little judgemental against people. But I am sure I read it wrong
 

Pete

New member
The original post is a fantastic piece of writing and an immensely interesting philosophy and understanding of your own existence lightNlife, very well done and thanks for sharing...

lol I'm gonna have to comeback with my thoughts on it...thanks for the brain food.
 

Pete

New member
The original post is a fantastic piece of writing and an immensely interesting philosophy and understanding of your own existence lightNlife, very well done and thanks for sharing...

lol I'm gonna have to comeback with my thoughts on it...thanks for the brain food.
 

Pete

New member
The original post is a fantastic piece of writing and an immensely interesting philosophy and understanding of your own existence lightNlife, very well done and thanks for sharing...

lol I'm gonna have to comeback with my thoughts on it...thanks for the brain food.
 

lightNlife

New member
Thanks Pete, not only for appreciating the post but also for your comment that it is a "fantastic piece of writing". We writers like to hear that sort of thing on occasion *wink*

My dad often says that I would have done well to major in philosophy.
 

lightNlife

New member
Thanks Pete, not only for appreciating the post but also for your comment that it is a "fantastic piece of writing". We writers like to hear that sort of thing on occasion *wink*

My dad often says that I would have done well to major in philosophy.
 

lightNlife

New member
Thanks Pete, not only for appreciating the post but also for your comment that it is a "fantastic piece of writing". We writers like to hear that sort of thing on occasion *wink*

My dad often says that I would have done well to major in philosophy.
 

mom2lillian

New member
This is an interesting thread.

Can't vs Shouldn't had an interesting twist for me.

I am a late diagnosee so I was never raised knowing I might possibly have an 'early expiration date' so to say. Not to say that I was not sick.

When I finally did get diagnosed I was ~3 years into my bachelor's degree and planning on becoming a chiropractor. I continued to be determined that this would be my plan but after a few hospitilizations and having to take time off of work I realized working for myself (& paying for my own health insurance!) was not a very good idea (my husband had realized that long ago but let me discover it for myself thankfully).

I re-focused my efforts on school once I was again well enough. I studied Biomedical health science and chemistry. I now work in the pharmaceutical field with my goal beign to move into research and development to work on drugs that will help others with their diseases. Long story short I now work for a large company that affords me the opportunity to have great health insurance and miss work (&still get paid) whenever I need to - no questions asked. This has allowed me to pursue having a family and showed me a whole other side to true happiness so sometimes following the path of a 'shouldnt or can't' can be a true blessing.
 

mom2lillian

New member
This is an interesting thread.

Can't vs Shouldn't had an interesting twist for me.

I am a late diagnosee so I was never raised knowing I might possibly have an 'early expiration date' so to say. Not to say that I was not sick.

When I finally did get diagnosed I was ~3 years into my bachelor's degree and planning on becoming a chiropractor. I continued to be determined that this would be my plan but after a few hospitilizations and having to take time off of work I realized working for myself (& paying for my own health insurance!) was not a very good idea (my husband had realized that long ago but let me discover it for myself thankfully).

I re-focused my efforts on school once I was again well enough. I studied Biomedical health science and chemistry. I now work in the pharmaceutical field with my goal beign to move into research and development to work on drugs that will help others with their diseases. Long story short I now work for a large company that affords me the opportunity to have great health insurance and miss work (&still get paid) whenever I need to - no questions asked. This has allowed me to pursue having a family and showed me a whole other side to true happiness so sometimes following the path of a 'shouldnt or can't' can be a true blessing.
 

mom2lillian

New member
This is an interesting thread.

Can't vs Shouldn't had an interesting twist for me.

I am a late diagnosee so I was never raised knowing I might possibly have an 'early expiration date' so to say. Not to say that I was not sick.

When I finally did get diagnosed I was ~3 years into my bachelor's degree and planning on becoming a chiropractor. I continued to be determined that this would be my plan but after a few hospitilizations and having to take time off of work I realized working for myself (& paying for my own health insurance!) was not a very good idea (my husband had realized that long ago but let me discover it for myself thankfully).

I re-focused my efforts on school once I was again well enough. I studied Biomedical health science and chemistry. I now work in the pharmaceutical field with my goal beign to move into research and development to work on drugs that will help others with their diseases. Long story short I now work for a large company that affords me the opportunity to have great health insurance and miss work (&still get paid) whenever I need to - no questions asked. This has allowed me to pursue having a family and showed me a whole other side to true happiness so sometimes following the path of a 'shouldnt or can't' can be a true blessing.
 

coltsfan715

New member
Lauren - First off I am so glad to see you back here I have missed you being on the boards the past few months. WELCOME BACK! I hope you are doing okay<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

As for the topic of Can't Vs. Shouldn't. That is something I have always struggled with and will always struggle with. I think most people do - no matter how old we are.

There are things that we have been told that we SHOULDN'T do all our lives and then there are things we are told we CAN'T do.

I was always told I shouldn't smoke, do drugs, play in the rain, stay out late, go to smokey bars/places, miss a treatment, skip meals, miss CPT. I can say that I never smoked - or did drugs but I evaluated the others and I decided that I wanted to experience those - I danced and played in the rain, I have stayed out late, gone to bars, missed treatments, skipped meals, missed CPT and many other things I SHOULD NOT have done.

I think of those things now and some of those things that I did were just dumb, but I refused at the time to let myself be limited by CF. It was my way of standing in rebellion against this stupid disease. I was also told I shouldn't have kids, shouldn't scuba dive, shouldn't shouldn't shouldn't. THOSE things I agree with and they have become CAN NOTs for me.

I have had a growing list of I CAN'Ts over the years and it is frustrating but I think there is a HUGE difference in the two.

I SHOULD NOT is a decision you make based on maturity and your mental/logical evaluation of the situation and its effect on you. CAN NOT is a decision that you make based on your physical ability many times. There are things that I CAN NOT do - like RUN ... that I SHOULD do lol. There are things that I CAN do that I SHOULD NOT do - like smoke. I don't run because I can't I don't smoke because I shouldn't ... and I think it is nasty and don't want too.

When I am told I SHOULD NOT do something I think WHY? I ask why and try to see the situation from another perspective - what would I think I should do if I were NOT me. If I didn't want to be seen as "normal" If I was not sitting here with this disease and struggling to keep it from taking over what I am able to do or not. What would I do - would I stay in and get rest or would I go out late with friends? Would I have a drink even though I am on abx or would I just have water instead(please no lectures - I don't drink really ever let alone when I am n abx just giving an example)? If you think about a situation and try to remove yourself from it just a tad then it becomes obvious what you SHOULD do and what is the best/wisest decision.

BUT we are so very into immediate gratification as humans and often times the wisest decision is not the most fun, so we claim temporary stupidity lol.

For me I CAN do anything my body will allow and I like doing what my body will allow ... if I enjoy it and my body will allow it I will do it most of the time. I just have to decide how much I like doing things that I shouldn't do that my body will allow lol.

The problem lies in ... even when a person is able to identify what they should not do, what they can't do or what they should and can do we still choose what feels better. When WE feel better staying in and taking care of ourselves, getting rest(maybe what we SHOULD DO) than we do going out (maybe what we SHOULD NOT do) and having fun with friends then we will choose staying in. When we feel better not smoking (what we SHOULD do) vs. smoking (what we SHOULD NOT do) we will choose not to smoke.

Take Care,
Lindsey
 

coltsfan715

New member
Lauren - First off I am so glad to see you back here I have missed you being on the boards the past few months. WELCOME BACK! I hope you are doing okay<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

As for the topic of Can't Vs. Shouldn't. That is something I have always struggled with and will always struggle with. I think most people do - no matter how old we are.

There are things that we have been told that we SHOULDN'T do all our lives and then there are things we are told we CAN'T do.

I was always told I shouldn't smoke, do drugs, play in the rain, stay out late, go to smokey bars/places, miss a treatment, skip meals, miss CPT. I can say that I never smoked - or did drugs but I evaluated the others and I decided that I wanted to experience those - I danced and played in the rain, I have stayed out late, gone to bars, missed treatments, skipped meals, missed CPT and many other things I SHOULD NOT have done.

I think of those things now and some of those things that I did were just dumb, but I refused at the time to let myself be limited by CF. It was my way of standing in rebellion against this stupid disease. I was also told I shouldn't have kids, shouldn't scuba dive, shouldn't shouldn't shouldn't. THOSE things I agree with and they have become CAN NOTs for me.

I have had a growing list of I CAN'Ts over the years and it is frustrating but I think there is a HUGE difference in the two.

I SHOULD NOT is a decision you make based on maturity and your mental/logical evaluation of the situation and its effect on you. CAN NOT is a decision that you make based on your physical ability many times. There are things that I CAN NOT do - like RUN ... that I SHOULD do lol. There are things that I CAN do that I SHOULD NOT do - like smoke. I don't run because I can't I don't smoke because I shouldn't ... and I think it is nasty and don't want too.

When I am told I SHOULD NOT do something I think WHY? I ask why and try to see the situation from another perspective - what would I think I should do if I were NOT me. If I didn't want to be seen as "normal" If I was not sitting here with this disease and struggling to keep it from taking over what I am able to do or not. What would I do - would I stay in and get rest or would I go out late with friends? Would I have a drink even though I am on abx or would I just have water instead(please no lectures - I don't drink really ever let alone when I am n abx just giving an example)? If you think about a situation and try to remove yourself from it just a tad then it becomes obvious what you SHOULD do and what is the best/wisest decision.

BUT we are so very into immediate gratification as humans and often times the wisest decision is not the most fun, so we claim temporary stupidity lol.

For me I CAN do anything my body will allow and I like doing what my body will allow ... if I enjoy it and my body will allow it I will do it most of the time. I just have to decide how much I like doing things that I shouldn't do that my body will allow lol.

The problem lies in ... even when a person is able to identify what they should not do, what they can't do or what they should and can do we still choose what feels better. When WE feel better staying in and taking care of ourselves, getting rest(maybe what we SHOULD DO) than we do going out (maybe what we SHOULD NOT do) and having fun with friends then we will choose staying in. When we feel better not smoking (what we SHOULD do) vs. smoking (what we SHOULD NOT do) we will choose not to smoke.

Take Care,
Lindsey
 

coltsfan715

New member
Lauren - First off I am so glad to see you back here I have missed you being on the boards the past few months. WELCOME BACK! I hope you are doing okay<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

As for the topic of Can't Vs. Shouldn't. That is something I have always struggled with and will always struggle with. I think most people do - no matter how old we are.

There are things that we have been told that we SHOULDN'T do all our lives and then there are things we are told we CAN'T do.

I was always told I shouldn't smoke, do drugs, play in the rain, stay out late, go to smokey bars/places, miss a treatment, skip meals, miss CPT. I can say that I never smoked - or did drugs but I evaluated the others and I decided that I wanted to experience those - I danced and played in the rain, I have stayed out late, gone to bars, missed treatments, skipped meals, missed CPT and many other things I SHOULD NOT have done.

I think of those things now and some of those things that I did were just dumb, but I refused at the time to let myself be limited by CF. It was my way of standing in rebellion against this stupid disease. I was also told I shouldn't have kids, shouldn't scuba dive, shouldn't shouldn't shouldn't. THOSE things I agree with and they have become CAN NOTs for me.

I have had a growing list of I CAN'Ts over the years and it is frustrating but I think there is a HUGE difference in the two.

I SHOULD NOT is a decision you make based on maturity and your mental/logical evaluation of the situation and its effect on you. CAN NOT is a decision that you make based on your physical ability many times. There are things that I CAN NOT do - like RUN ... that I SHOULD do lol. There are things that I CAN do that I SHOULD NOT do - like smoke. I don't run because I can't I don't smoke because I shouldn't ... and I think it is nasty and don't want too.

When I am told I SHOULD NOT do something I think WHY? I ask why and try to see the situation from another perspective - what would I think I should do if I were NOT me. If I didn't want to be seen as "normal" If I was not sitting here with this disease and struggling to keep it from taking over what I am able to do or not. What would I do - would I stay in and get rest or would I go out late with friends? Would I have a drink even though I am on abx or would I just have water instead(please no lectures - I don't drink really ever let alone when I am n abx just giving an example)? If you think about a situation and try to remove yourself from it just a tad then it becomes obvious what you SHOULD do and what is the best/wisest decision.

BUT we are so very into immediate gratification as humans and often times the wisest decision is not the most fun, so we claim temporary stupidity lol.

For me I CAN do anything my body will allow and I like doing what my body will allow ... if I enjoy it and my body will allow it I will do it most of the time. I just have to decide how much I like doing things that I shouldn't do that my body will allow lol.

The problem lies in ... even when a person is able to identify what they should not do, what they can't do or what they should and can do we still choose what feels better. When WE feel better staying in and taking care of ourselves, getting rest(maybe what we SHOULD DO) than we do going out (maybe what we SHOULD NOT do) and having fun with friends then we will choose staying in. When we feel better not smoking (what we SHOULD do) vs. smoking (what we SHOULD NOT do) we will choose not to smoke.

Take Care,
Lindsey
 
M

MCGrad2006

Guest
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Sometimes you can push so hard to get something that somewhere along the way you quit evaluating at what cost you're achieving your goal and is it something you actually want that bad or are you a bit caught up in proving you can do it.</end quote></div>

I can testify to this. Growing up it was hard to be told that you may not be able to do something. In high school, I was so adamant about not being treated any different, for example, not missing tons of school, that when I would get admitted I would go right back to school on IV's. I simply went in late to school and only missed homeroom. I know now that thats not a very good idea, because I prob just ended up getting run down and not getting better...but I was young and that was ok then. Now I dont think that would be ok.

I have always wanted to prove that I can do something despite my CF related issues. Although, I think gradually it has been changing for me. As we all get older, the CANT vs. SHOULDNT issue changes, and I agree...I have enjoyed hearing everyone elses input. Its nice to see how we all view our own lives and we may not look at things the same way, but hey thats what makes the world go round. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 
M

MCGrad2006

Guest
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Sometimes you can push so hard to get something that somewhere along the way you quit evaluating at what cost you're achieving your goal and is it something you actually want that bad or are you a bit caught up in proving you can do it.</end quote></div>

I can testify to this. Growing up it was hard to be told that you may not be able to do something. In high school, I was so adamant about not being treated any different, for example, not missing tons of school, that when I would get admitted I would go right back to school on IV's. I simply went in late to school and only missed homeroom. I know now that thats not a very good idea, because I prob just ended up getting run down and not getting better...but I was young and that was ok then. Now I dont think that would be ok.

I have always wanted to prove that I can do something despite my CF related issues. Although, I think gradually it has been changing for me. As we all get older, the CANT vs. SHOULDNT issue changes, and I agree...I have enjoyed hearing everyone elses input. Its nice to see how we all view our own lives and we may not look at things the same way, but hey thats what makes the world go round. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 
M

MCGrad2006

Guest
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Sometimes you can push so hard to get something that somewhere along the way you quit evaluating at what cost you're achieving your goal and is it something you actually want that bad or are you a bit caught up in proving you can do it.</end quote></div>

I can testify to this. Growing up it was hard to be told that you may not be able to do something. In high school, I was so adamant about not being treated any different, for example, not missing tons of school, that when I would get admitted I would go right back to school on IV's. I simply went in late to school and only missed homeroom. I know now that thats not a very good idea, because I prob just ended up getting run down and not getting better...but I was young and that was ok then. Now I dont think that would be ok.

I have always wanted to prove that I can do something despite my CF related issues. Although, I think gradually it has been changing for me. As we all get older, the CANT vs. SHOULDNT issue changes, and I agree...I have enjoyed hearing everyone elses input. Its nice to see how we all view our own lives and we may not look at things the same way, but hey thats what makes the world go round. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 
Top