CF survivor guilt

BigBee

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I opened up the thread "surviver quilt" wondering what in the world a surviver quilt is... Apparently the underlining in the topic name makes the "g" and the "q" look the same <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Eloquent post Sean. As a non-cf'er, I don't have anything to add other than thank you for the insight. I know my Dad struggled with it as well, so everyone's posts on the subject give me more insight into his feelings.
 

BigBee

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I opened up the thread "surviver quilt" wondering what in the world a surviver quilt is... Apparently the underlining in the topic name makes the "g" and the "q" look the same <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Eloquent post Sean. As a non-cf'er, I don't have anything to add other than thank you for the insight. I know my Dad struggled with it as well, so everyone's posts on the subject give me more insight into his feelings.
 

BigBee

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I opened up the thread "surviver quilt" wondering what in the world a surviver quilt is... Apparently the underlining in the topic name makes the "g" and the "q" look the same <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Eloquent post Sean. As a non-cf'er, I don't have anything to add other than thank you for the insight. I know my Dad struggled with it as well, so everyone's posts on the subject give me more insight into his feelings.
 

BigBee

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I opened up the thread "surviver quilt" wondering what in the world a surviver quilt is... Apparently the underlining in the topic name makes the "g" and the "q" look the same <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Eloquent post Sean. As a non-cf'er, I don't have anything to add other than thank you for the insight. I know my Dad struggled with it as well, so everyone's posts on the subject give me more insight into his feelings.
 

BigBee

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I opened up the thread "surviver quilt" wondering what in the world a surviver quilt is... Apparently the underlining in the topic name makes the "g" and the "q" look the same <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Eloquent post Sean. As a non-cf'er, I don't have anything to add other than thank you for the insight. I know my Dad struggled with it as well, so everyone's posts on the subject give me more insight into his feelings.
 

BigBee

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I opened up the thread "surviver quilt" wondering what in the world a surviver quilt is... Apparently the underlining in the topic name makes the "g" and the "q" look the same <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Eloquent post Sean. As a non-cf'er, I don't have anything to add other than thank you for the insight. I know my Dad struggled with it as well, so everyone's posts on the subject give me more insight into his feelings.
 

charl72

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Lovely post Sean<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif" border="0">

I am a mother of a daughter with CF. There is not one day that goes by when I don't think about CF and that really pisses me off. I don't know if it should but it does. Each day I try and stay focussed but it sure is hard. My daughter absolutely rocks. She is amazing and each day I am truely grateful I am her mother. I took her today to the Clinic for a follow-up cough swab after a 2 week course of back-up antibiotics and she was totally cool about it. God, I am so proud of her. I told the nurse this that did the cough swab for her and she told me that I should be proud of myself. There isn't one day goes by that I don't forget to give her her enzymes and meds and treatments. I know it sounds corny, but I am glad that God gave me a child for me to look after because I am totally 100% about fighting this condition and doing the best I can for her. I never knew LittleDebbie, but after reading the post her mum did, I found myself feeling very emotional cos I've read loads of her posts. I also found myself reading over loads of her old posts and filling up and just couldn't believe it. It really sucks. She sounded like an amazing woman. It is so sad. I even woke up this morning with a banging headache, that's how much it touched me! Probably the few beers didn't help either. But, hey, don't we all deserve a beer?! We should all live each day as if it is our last and live for the moment (says she?!. HA). I get really pissed off that I spend most of my days worrying about the 'what ifs' and I just hope that this will get easier. Maybe it won't, who knows. I find this forum such a great support and you are all amazing people. Anyways, I'll stop waffling now and pour myself another lovely glass of wine. After all it is the weekend.<img src="i/expressions/wine.gif" border="0">

Take care.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 

charl72

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Lovely post Sean<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif" border="0">

I am a mother of a daughter with CF. There is not one day that goes by when I don't think about CF and that really pisses me off. I don't know if it should but it does. Each day I try and stay focussed but it sure is hard. My daughter absolutely rocks. She is amazing and each day I am truely grateful I am her mother. I took her today to the Clinic for a follow-up cough swab after a 2 week course of back-up antibiotics and she was totally cool about it. God, I am so proud of her. I told the nurse this that did the cough swab for her and she told me that I should be proud of myself. There isn't one day goes by that I don't forget to give her her enzymes and meds and treatments. I know it sounds corny, but I am glad that God gave me a child for me to look after because I am totally 100% about fighting this condition and doing the best I can for her. I never knew LittleDebbie, but after reading the post her mum did, I found myself feeling very emotional cos I've read loads of her posts. I also found myself reading over loads of her old posts and filling up and just couldn't believe it. It really sucks. She sounded like an amazing woman. It is so sad. I even woke up this morning with a banging headache, that's how much it touched me! Probably the few beers didn't help either. But, hey, don't we all deserve a beer?! We should all live each day as if it is our last and live for the moment (says she?!. HA). I get really pissed off that I spend most of my days worrying about the 'what ifs' and I just hope that this will get easier. Maybe it won't, who knows. I find this forum such a great support and you are all amazing people. Anyways, I'll stop waffling now and pour myself another lovely glass of wine. After all it is the weekend.<img src="i/expressions/wine.gif" border="0">

Take care.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 

charl72

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Lovely post Sean<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif" border="0">

I am a mother of a daughter with CF. There is not one day that goes by when I don't think about CF and that really pisses me off. I don't know if it should but it does. Each day I try and stay focussed but it sure is hard. My daughter absolutely rocks. She is amazing and each day I am truely grateful I am her mother. I took her today to the Clinic for a follow-up cough swab after a 2 week course of back-up antibiotics and she was totally cool about it. God, I am so proud of her. I told the nurse this that did the cough swab for her and she told me that I should be proud of myself. There isn't one day goes by that I don't forget to give her her enzymes and meds and treatments. I know it sounds corny, but I am glad that God gave me a child for me to look after because I am totally 100% about fighting this condition and doing the best I can for her. I never knew LittleDebbie, but after reading the post her mum did, I found myself feeling very emotional cos I've read loads of her posts. I also found myself reading over loads of her old posts and filling up and just couldn't believe it. It really sucks. She sounded like an amazing woman. It is so sad. I even woke up this morning with a banging headache, that's how much it touched me! Probably the few beers didn't help either. But, hey, don't we all deserve a beer?! We should all live each day as if it is our last and live for the moment (says she?!. HA). I get really pissed off that I spend most of my days worrying about the 'what ifs' and I just hope that this will get easier. Maybe it won't, who knows. I find this forum such a great support and you are all amazing people. Anyways, I'll stop waffling now and pour myself another lovely glass of wine. After all it is the weekend.<img src="i/expressions/wine.gif" border="0">

Take care.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 

charl72

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Lovely post Sean<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif" border="0">

I am a mother of a daughter with CF. There is not one day that goes by when I don't think about CF and that really pisses me off. I don't know if it should but it does. Each day I try and stay focussed but it sure is hard. My daughter absolutely rocks. She is amazing and each day I am truely grateful I am her mother. I took her today to the Clinic for a follow-up cough swab after a 2 week course of back-up antibiotics and she was totally cool about it. God, I am so proud of her. I told the nurse this that did the cough swab for her and she told me that I should be proud of myself. There isn't one day goes by that I don't forget to give her her enzymes and meds and treatments. I know it sounds corny, but I am glad that God gave me a child for me to look after because I am totally 100% about fighting this condition and doing the best I can for her. I never knew LittleDebbie, but after reading the post her mum did, I found myself feeling very emotional cos I've read loads of her posts. I also found myself reading over loads of her old posts and filling up and just couldn't believe it. It really sucks. She sounded like an amazing woman. It is so sad. I even woke up this morning with a banging headache, that's how much it touched me! Probably the few beers didn't help either. But, hey, don't we all deserve a beer?! We should all live each day as if it is our last and live for the moment (says she?!. HA). I get really pissed off that I spend most of my days worrying about the 'what ifs' and I just hope that this will get easier. Maybe it won't, who knows. I find this forum such a great support and you are all amazing people. Anyways, I'll stop waffling now and pour myself another lovely glass of wine. After all it is the weekend.<img src="i/expressions/wine.gif" border="0">

Take care.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 

charl72

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Lovely post Sean<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif" border="0">

I am a mother of a daughter with CF. There is not one day that goes by when I don't think about CF and that really pisses me off. I don't know if it should but it does. Each day I try and stay focussed but it sure is hard. My daughter absolutely rocks. She is amazing and each day I am truely grateful I am her mother. I took her today to the Clinic for a follow-up cough swab after a 2 week course of back-up antibiotics and she was totally cool about it. God, I am so proud of her. I told the nurse this that did the cough swab for her and she told me that I should be proud of myself. There isn't one day goes by that I don't forget to give her her enzymes and meds and treatments. I know it sounds corny, but I am glad that God gave me a child for me to look after because I am totally 100% about fighting this condition and doing the best I can for her. I never knew LittleDebbie, but after reading the post her mum did, I found myself feeling very emotional cos I've read loads of her posts. I also found myself reading over loads of her old posts and filling up and just couldn't believe it. It really sucks. She sounded like an amazing woman. It is so sad. I even woke up this morning with a banging headache, that's how much it touched me! Probably the few beers didn't help either. But, hey, don't we all deserve a beer?! We should all live each day as if it is our last and live for the moment (says she?!. HA). I get really pissed off that I spend most of my days worrying about the 'what ifs' and I just hope that this will get easier. Maybe it won't, who knows. I find this forum such a great support and you are all amazing people. Anyways, I'll stop waffling now and pour myself another lovely glass of wine. After all it is the weekend.<img src="i/expressions/wine.gif" border="0">

Take care.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 

charl72

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Lovely post Sean<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif" border="0">

I am a mother of a daughter with CF. There is not one day that goes by when I don't think about CF and that really pisses me off. I don't know if it should but it does. Each day I try and stay focussed but it sure is hard. My daughter absolutely rocks. She is amazing and each day I am truely grateful I am her mother. I took her today to the Clinic for a follow-up cough swab after a 2 week course of back-up antibiotics and she was totally cool about it. God, I am so proud of her. I told the nurse this that did the cough swab for her and she told me that I should be proud of myself. There isn't one day goes by that I don't forget to give her her enzymes and meds and treatments. I know it sounds corny, but I am glad that God gave me a child for me to look after because I am totally 100% about fighting this condition and doing the best I can for her. I never knew LittleDebbie, but after reading the post her mum did, I found myself feeling very emotional cos I've read loads of her posts. I also found myself reading over loads of her old posts and filling up and just couldn't believe it. It really sucks. She sounded like an amazing woman. It is so sad. I even woke up this morning with a banging headache, that's how much it touched me! Probably the few beers didn't help either. But, hey, don't we all deserve a beer?! We should all live each day as if it is our last and live for the moment (says she?!. HA). I get really pissed off that I spend most of my days worrying about the 'what ifs' and I just hope that this will get easier. Maybe it won't, who knows. I find this forum such a great support and you are all amazing people. Anyways, I'll stop waffling now and pour myself another lovely glass of wine. After all it is the weekend.<img src="i/expressions/wine.gif" border="0">

Take care.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 

Faust

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@bigbee: Holy crap. Maybe my math is off, but your dad lived to be 68 with CF!?!?


To all the parents with parent guilt...My mom went through the same thing, and though she had me when she was 39 (late), I will probably out live her. As a parent (imagined, I don't yet have children, but I want atleast one), I can't imagine anything more painful than having a child pass before you. There is literally nothing worse that my brain can construct. This is why we must enjoy every minute with those who have an express ticket to the end of the ride.


A long time ago (in my very early 20's), I was in a downtown bar, with another friend, drinking beer and having whatever fun we were trying to have at the time. I saw a guy in a wheelchair, that looked a lot like Mathew Broderic from the movie war games. He was wearing a Ministry concert shirt, I called out to him and gave him props for good choice in music, and till this day, we are very close friends and have been through a lot together. He has MD, and degrades just like I do, but differently.

He has gone from being able to hold a giant way heavy glass liter container of beer with me, to me having to help him get beer in a very small paper/plastic cup. I'm basically watching him die in front of me. We were going to start our own tongue in cheek public access cable show called "Two crippled losers", but the time needed to be able to be granted production status, well, wasn't gonna be.

Where he has his health degrade openly in front of me, mine degrades internally. Where he can't lift a certain amount and people see that, my lung capacity will go down and people won't see that. But neither is more screwed than the other. It's the same ride.

Just remember, regardless if you are a CF patient with the guilt that I have, or if you are normal and have some other form of survivor guilt, just realize it's all the same ride. Nothing will take away the pain, but as a parent, if your child dies at (fill in the blank age wise), you will be in that end result as well, just at a later time. Life has momentary beautiful gaps in it, but those are interspersed amongst way more negative moments. Those who leave us before we die, probably enjoy the same ratio of good to bad experiences, but inevitably avoid a ton of negative crap that is guaranteed to befall those of us who live to "old age".
 

Faust

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@bigbee: Holy crap. Maybe my math is off, but your dad lived to be 68 with CF!?!?


To all the parents with parent guilt...My mom went through the same thing, and though she had me when she was 39 (late), I will probably out live her. As a parent (imagined, I don't yet have children, but I want atleast one), I can't imagine anything more painful than having a child pass before you. There is literally nothing worse that my brain can construct. This is why we must enjoy every minute with those who have an express ticket to the end of the ride.


A long time ago (in my very early 20's), I was in a downtown bar, with another friend, drinking beer and having whatever fun we were trying to have at the time. I saw a guy in a wheelchair, that looked a lot like Mathew Broderic from the movie war games. He was wearing a Ministry concert shirt, I called out to him and gave him props for good choice in music, and till this day, we are very close friends and have been through a lot together. He has MD, and degrades just like I do, but differently.

He has gone from being able to hold a giant way heavy glass liter container of beer with me, to me having to help him get beer in a very small paper/plastic cup. I'm basically watching him die in front of me. We were going to start our own tongue in cheek public access cable show called "Two crippled losers", but the time needed to be able to be granted production status, well, wasn't gonna be.

Where he has his health degrade openly in front of me, mine degrades internally. Where he can't lift a certain amount and people see that, my lung capacity will go down and people won't see that. But neither is more screwed than the other. It's the same ride.

Just remember, regardless if you are a CF patient with the guilt that I have, or if you are normal and have some other form of survivor guilt, just realize it's all the same ride. Nothing will take away the pain, but as a parent, if your child dies at (fill in the blank age wise), you will be in that end result as well, just at a later time. Life has momentary beautiful gaps in it, but those are interspersed amongst way more negative moments. Those who leave us before we die, probably enjoy the same ratio of good to bad experiences, but inevitably avoid a ton of negative crap that is guaranteed to befall those of us who live to "old age".
 

Faust

New member
@bigbee: Holy crap. Maybe my math is off, but your dad lived to be 68 with CF!?!?


To all the parents with parent guilt...My mom went through the same thing, and though she had me when she was 39 (late), I will probably out live her. As a parent (imagined, I don't yet have children, but I want atleast one), I can't imagine anything more painful than having a child pass before you. There is literally nothing worse that my brain can construct. This is why we must enjoy every minute with those who have an express ticket to the end of the ride.


A long time ago (in my very early 20's), I was in a downtown bar, with another friend, drinking beer and having whatever fun we were trying to have at the time. I saw a guy in a wheelchair, that looked a lot like Mathew Broderic from the movie war games. He was wearing a Ministry concert shirt, I called out to him and gave him props for good choice in music, and till this day, we are very close friends and have been through a lot together. He has MD, and degrades just like I do, but differently.

He has gone from being able to hold a giant way heavy glass liter container of beer with me, to me having to help him get beer in a very small paper/plastic cup. I'm basically watching him die in front of me. We were going to start our own tongue in cheek public access cable show called "Two crippled losers", but the time needed to be able to be granted production status, well, wasn't gonna be.

Where he has his health degrade openly in front of me, mine degrades internally. Where he can't lift a certain amount and people see that, my lung capacity will go down and people won't see that. But neither is more screwed than the other. It's the same ride.

Just remember, regardless if you are a CF patient with the guilt that I have, or if you are normal and have some other form of survivor guilt, just realize it's all the same ride. Nothing will take away the pain, but as a parent, if your child dies at (fill in the blank age wise), you will be in that end result as well, just at a later time. Life has momentary beautiful gaps in it, but those are interspersed amongst way more negative moments. Those who leave us before we die, probably enjoy the same ratio of good to bad experiences, but inevitably avoid a ton of negative crap that is guaranteed to befall those of us who live to "old age".
 

Faust

New member
@bigbee: Holy crap. Maybe my math is off, but your dad lived to be 68 with CF!?!?


To all the parents with parent guilt...My mom went through the same thing, and though she had me when she was 39 (late), I will probably out live her. As a parent (imagined, I don't yet have children, but I want atleast one), I can't imagine anything more painful than having a child pass before you. There is literally nothing worse that my brain can construct. This is why we must enjoy every minute with those who have an express ticket to the end of the ride.


A long time ago (in my very early 20's), I was in a downtown bar, with another friend, drinking beer and having whatever fun we were trying to have at the time. I saw a guy in a wheelchair, that looked a lot like Mathew Broderic from the movie war games. He was wearing a Ministry concert shirt, I called out to him and gave him props for good choice in music, and till this day, we are very close friends and have been through a lot together. He has MD, and degrades just like I do, but differently.

He has gone from being able to hold a giant way heavy glass liter container of beer with me, to me having to help him get beer in a very small paper/plastic cup. I'm basically watching him die in front of me. We were going to start our own tongue in cheek public access cable show called "Two crippled losers", but the time needed to be able to be granted production status, well, wasn't gonna be.

Where he has his health degrade openly in front of me, mine degrades internally. Where he can't lift a certain amount and people see that, my lung capacity will go down and people won't see that. But neither is more screwed than the other. It's the same ride.

Just remember, regardless if you are a CF patient with the guilt that I have, or if you are normal and have some other form of survivor guilt, just realize it's all the same ride. Nothing will take away the pain, but as a parent, if your child dies at (fill in the blank age wise), you will be in that end result as well, just at a later time. Life has momentary beautiful gaps in it, but those are interspersed amongst way more negative moments. Those who leave us before we die, probably enjoy the same ratio of good to bad experiences, but inevitably avoid a ton of negative crap that is guaranteed to befall those of us who live to "old age".
 

Faust

New member
@bigbee: Holy crap. Maybe my math is off, but your dad lived to be 68 with CF!?!?


To all the parents with parent guilt...My mom went through the same thing, and though she had me when she was 39 (late), I will probably out live her. As a parent (imagined, I don't yet have children, but I want atleast one), I can't imagine anything more painful than having a child pass before you. There is literally nothing worse that my brain can construct. This is why we must enjoy every minute with those who have an express ticket to the end of the ride.


A long time ago (in my very early 20's), I was in a downtown bar, with another friend, drinking beer and having whatever fun we were trying to have at the time. I saw a guy in a wheelchair, that looked a lot like Mathew Broderic from the movie war games. He was wearing a Ministry concert shirt, I called out to him and gave him props for good choice in music, and till this day, we are very close friends and have been through a lot together. He has MD, and degrades just like I do, but differently.

He has gone from being able to hold a giant way heavy glass liter container of beer with me, to me having to help him get beer in a very small paper/plastic cup. I'm basically watching him die in front of me. We were going to start our own tongue in cheek public access cable show called "Two crippled losers", but the time needed to be able to be granted production status, well, wasn't gonna be.

Where he has his health degrade openly in front of me, mine degrades internally. Where he can't lift a certain amount and people see that, my lung capacity will go down and people won't see that. But neither is more screwed than the other. It's the same ride.

Just remember, regardless if you are a CF patient with the guilt that I have, or if you are normal and have some other form of survivor guilt, just realize it's all the same ride. Nothing will take away the pain, but as a parent, if your child dies at (fill in the blank age wise), you will be in that end result as well, just at a later time. Life has momentary beautiful gaps in it, but those are interspersed amongst way more negative moments. Those who leave us before we die, probably enjoy the same ratio of good to bad experiences, but inevitably avoid a ton of negative crap that is guaranteed to befall those of us who live to "old age".
 

Faust

New member
@bigbee: Holy crap. Maybe my math is off, but your dad lived to be 68 with CF!?!?


To all the parents with parent guilt...My mom went through the same thing, and though she had me when she was 39 (late), I will probably out live her. As a parent (imagined, I don't yet have children, but I want atleast one), I can't imagine anything more painful than having a child pass before you. There is literally nothing worse that my brain can construct. This is why we must enjoy every minute with those who have an express ticket to the end of the ride.


A long time ago (in my very early 20's), I was in a downtown bar, with another friend, drinking beer and having whatever fun we were trying to have at the time. I saw a guy in a wheelchair, that looked a lot like Mathew Broderic from the movie war games. He was wearing a Ministry concert shirt, I called out to him and gave him props for good choice in music, and till this day, we are very close friends and have been through a lot together. He has MD, and degrades just like I do, but differently.

He has gone from being able to hold a giant way heavy glass liter container of beer with me, to me having to help him get beer in a very small paper/plastic cup. I'm basically watching him die in front of me. We were going to start our own tongue in cheek public access cable show called "Two crippled losers", but the time needed to be able to be granted production status, well, wasn't gonna be.

Where he has his health degrade openly in front of me, mine degrades internally. Where he can't lift a certain amount and people see that, my lung capacity will go down and people won't see that. But neither is more screwed than the other. It's the same ride.

Just remember, regardless if you are a CF patient with the guilt that I have, or if you are normal and have some other form of survivor guilt, just realize it's all the same ride. Nothing will take away the pain, but as a parent, if your child dies at (fill in the blank age wise), you will be in that end result as well, just at a later time. Life has momentary beautiful gaps in it, but those are interspersed amongst way more negative moments. Those who leave us before we die, probably enjoy the same ratio of good to bad experiences, but inevitably avoid a ton of negative crap that is guaranteed to befall those of us who live to "old age".
 

BigBee

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>SeanDavis</b></i>

@bigbee: Holy crap. Maybe my math is off, but your dad lived to be 68 with CF!?!?</end quote></div>


A+ in Math! You're math is right on the money - he was 68 years and one month old. He was damn proud of that too!

One of the reasons he didn't want a tx was that lungs were scarce and he felt the younger cf'ers should have a shot at them. He did struggle with the guilt of a "long" life in CF years. I struggle with the guilt here of being luckier than the average family member of a cf'er. All in all, this disease sucks. The only thing I can do to combat the helplessness I feel is to volunteer for our local CFF gala, it's not much, but it's something.

Glad you are back actively posting.
 

BigBee

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>SeanDavis</b></i>

@bigbee: Holy crap. Maybe my math is off, but your dad lived to be 68 with CF!?!?</end quote></div>


A+ in Math! You're math is right on the money - he was 68 years and one month old. He was damn proud of that too!

One of the reasons he didn't want a tx was that lungs were scarce and he felt the younger cf'ers should have a shot at them. He did struggle with the guilt of a "long" life in CF years. I struggle with the guilt here of being luckier than the average family member of a cf'er. All in all, this disease sucks. The only thing I can do to combat the helplessness I feel is to volunteer for our local CFF gala, it's not much, but it's something.

Glad you are back actively posting.
 
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