Compact Nebulizer?

LeneSouthAfrica · Aug 21, 2009

This is the portable one I use and love. I have no knowledge on whether it is approved for anything, just my own experience which is the following:
It is great for travel because it is tiny and works either with the battery pack for about 2 sessions, or with the car adapter or plugged into the wall. The charger is also the plug (you may need an adapter depending on your wall sockets). It is much cheaper than the eflow which is why I got it, and also because it is a compressor neb, not ultrasonic. It is designed to only work with the special medel nebulizer cups/mouthpiece, not disposables, because the compressor is too weak to create decent steam but with the specified cups it works perfectly. The speed is average, which from my experience is around 25 minutes for 6 ml of liquid? I actually liked the nebulizer cups so much that for about a year I was just using my portable neb instead of my regular one - suddenly my HT saline became so much more effective. Then I had the brainwave to use these cups with my normal unimpressive compressor and it has halved my treatment time! (makes sense if you think about it - it is as if I got a faster compressor. Just needed minor tube modification to swop the fitting around but it works great)I have used bronchodilators, HTS, and antibiotics. I am not on Pulmozyme.

I did not get my unit from this website, but I have used them to get more neb cups and tube fittings. Anyway you can read more technical info on it here.
www.chemistdirect.co.uk/medel-e-neb-micro-compressor-nebuliser-system_1_878.html
edited to add: it has one small flaw in my opinion - the cups have a simple valve at the top, which is supposed to save medicine as it opens only when you breathe out, so not just let out the steam like your typical disposable mask. But it irritates me, because with all the stickiness of the antibiotics it tends to get a bit stuck and then splatters, so I just remove the valve and have the opening on the in and out breaths. Problem solved <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

LeneSouthAfrica · Aug 21, 2009

This is the portable one I use and love. I have no knowledge on whether it is approved for anything, just my own experience which is the following:
It is great for travel because it is tiny and works either with the battery pack for about 2 sessions, or with the car adapter or plugged into the wall. The charger is also the plug (you may need an adapter depending on your wall sockets). It is much cheaper than the eflow which is why I got it, and also because it is a compressor neb, not ultrasonic. It is designed to only work with the special medel nebulizer cups/mouthpiece, not disposables, because the compressor is too weak to create decent steam but with the specified cups it works perfectly. The speed is average, which from my experience is around 25 minutes for 6 ml of liquid? I actually liked the nebulizer cups so much that for about a year I was just using my portable neb instead of my regular one - suddenly my HT saline became so much more effective. Then I had the brainwave to use these cups with my normal unimpressive compressor and it has halved my treatment time! (makes sense if you think about it - it is as if I got a faster compressor. Just needed minor tube modification to swop the fitting around but it works great)I have used bronchodilators, HTS, and antibiotics. I am not on Pulmozyme.

I did not get my unit from this website, but I have used them to get more neb cups and tube fittings. Anyway you can read more technical info on it here.
www.chemistdirect.co.uk/medel-e-neb-micro-compressor-nebuliser-system_1_878.html
edited to add: it has one small flaw in my opinion - the cups have a simple valve at the top, which is supposed to save medicine as it opens only when you breathe out, so not just let out the steam like your typical disposable mask. But it irritates me, because with all the stickiness of the antibiotics it tends to get a bit stuck and then splatters, so I just remove the valve and have the opening on the in and out breaths. Problem solved <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

LeneSouthAfrica · Aug 21, 2009

This is the portable one I use and love. I have no knowledge on whether it is approved for anything, just my own experience which is the following:
It is great for travel because it is tiny and works either with the battery pack for about 2 sessions, or with the car adapter or plugged into the wall. The charger is also the plug (you may need an adapter depending on your wall sockets). It is much cheaper than the eflow which is why I got it, and also because it is a compressor neb, not ultrasonic. It is designed to only work with the special medel nebulizer cups/mouthpiece, not disposables, because the compressor is too weak to create decent steam but with the specified cups it works perfectly. The speed is average, which from my experience is around 25 minutes for 6 ml of liquid? I actually liked the nebulizer cups so much that for about a year I was just using my portable neb instead of my regular one - suddenly my HT saline became so much more effective. Then I had the brainwave to use these cups with my normal unimpressive compressor and it has halved my treatment time! (makes sense if you think about it - it is as if I got a faster compressor. Just needed minor tube modification to swop the fitting around but it works great)I have used bronchodilators, HTS, and antibiotics. I am not on Pulmozyme.

I did not get my unit from this website, but I have used them to get more neb cups and tube fittings. Anyway you can read more technical info on it here.
www.chemistdirect.co.uk/medel-e-neb-micro-compressor-nebuliser-system_1_878.html
edited to add: it has one small flaw in my opinion - the cups have a simple valve at the top, which is supposed to save medicine as it opens only when you breathe out, so not just let out the steam like your typical disposable mask. But it irritates me, because with all the stickiness of the antibiotics it tends to get a bit stuck and then splatters, so I just remove the valve and have the opening on the in and out breaths. Problem solved <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

LeneSouthAfrica · Aug 21, 2009

This is the portable one I use and love. I have no knowledge on whether it is approved for anything, just my own experience which is the following:
It is great for travel because it is tiny and works either with the battery pack for about 2 sessions, or with the car adapter or plugged into the wall. The charger is also the plug (you may need an adapter depending on your wall sockets). It is much cheaper than the eflow which is why I got it, and also because it is a compressor neb, not ultrasonic. It is designed to only work with the special medel nebulizer cups/mouthpiece, not disposables, because the compressor is too weak to create decent steam but with the specified cups it works perfectly. The speed is average, which from my experience is around 25 minutes for 6 ml of liquid? I actually liked the nebulizer cups so much that for about a year I was just using my portable neb instead of my regular one - suddenly my HT saline became so much more effective. Then I had the brainwave to use these cups with my normal unimpressive compressor and it has halved my treatment time! (makes sense if you think about it - it is as if I got a faster compressor. Just needed minor tube modification to swop the fitting around but it works great)I have used bronchodilators, HTS, and antibiotics. I am not on Pulmozyme.

I did not get my unit from this website, but I have used them to get more neb cups and tube fittings. Anyway you can read more technical info on it here.
www.chemistdirect.co.uk/medel-e-neb-micro-compressor-nebuliser-system_1_878.html
edited to add: it has one small flaw in my opinion - the cups have a simple valve at the top, which is supposed to save medicine as it opens only when you breathe out, so not just let out the steam like your typical disposable mask. But it irritates me, because with all the stickiness of the antibiotics it tends to get a bit stuck and then splatters, so I just remove the valve and have the opening on the in and out breaths. Problem solved <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

LeneSouthAfrica · Aug 21, 2009

This is the portable one I use and love. I have no knowledge on whether it is approved for anything, just my own experience which is the following:
 It is great for travel because it is tiny and works either with the battery pack for about 2 sessions, or with the car adapter or plugged into the wall. The charger is also the plug (you may need an adapter depending on your wall sockets). It is much cheaper than the eflow which is why I got it, and also because it is a compressor neb, not ultrasonic. It is designed to only work with the special medel nebulizer cups/mouthpiece, not disposables, because the compressor is too weak to create decent steam but with the specified cups it works perfectly. The speed is average, which from my experience is around 25 minutes for 6 ml of liquid? I actually liked the nebulizer cups so much that for about a year I was just using my portable neb instead of my regular one - suddenly my HT saline became so much more effective. Then I had the brainwave to use these cups with my normal unimpressive compressor and it has halved my treatment time! (makes sense if you think about it - it is as if I got a faster compressor. Just needed minor tube modification to swop the fitting around but it works great)I have used bronchodilators, HTS, and antibiotics. I am not on Pulmozyme.
 
 I did not get my unit from this website, but I have used them to get more neb cups and tube fittings. Anyway you can read more technical info on it here.
 www.chemistdirect.co.uk/medel-e-neb-micro-compressor-nebuliser-system_1_878.html
 edited to add: it has one small flaw in my opinion - the cups have a simple valve at the top, which is supposed to save medicine as it opens only when you breathe out, so not just let out the steam like your typical disposable mask. But it irritates me, because with all the stickiness of the antibiotics it tends to get a bit stuck and then splatters, so I just remove the valve and have the opening on the in and out breaths. Problem solved <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

dasjsmum · Aug 22, 2009

Hi Nightwriter

According to the links I posted above (it only took me five minutes to google the info), there are three categories of FDA clearance for devices:

Class 1: are items that pose little risk for the consumer (FDA website)
Class 2: are items that pose some risk to consumers, and are stringently tested in the laboratory. They are items such as the eflow.

Class 1 & 2 require FDA CLEARANCE only. They DO NOT have to be tested on people in clinical trials. They are strictly tested in the laboratory however.

Class 3: these are devices such as pace makers and stends, they pose a high risk to consumers and MUST have APPROVAL, not clearance...in order to gain approval from the FDA they MUST undergo clinical trials on people.

The disclaimer on the pharmacy sites relates to the use of Tobramycin IN the eflow. Tobramycin's efficacy in an eflow has not been tested in clinical trials.

It is really easy to look this up, like I said, it took me five minutes to google the info. I dont even live in the US.

The eflow will NEVER gain FDA APPROVAL, because it is not required to. It is a class 11 device, and as such ONLY requires CLEARANCE from the FDA. Have a look on my links above.

Your doctors and insurance companies are just covering their butts with the Tobramycin plus eflow decision. From what I understand of the issue, the eflow will not obtain FDA approval unless it is in a clinical trial to support a drug. The eflow itself is not required to obtain FDA approval.

By the way Nightwriter, I have not found Amy's responses rude, but I really feel that yours are. She has not said anything disparaging about you at all, just delivered the facts.

I personally appreciate her and feel that she brings a lot of good info to this forum that would be missed without her here.

dasjsmum · Aug 22, 2009

Hi Nightwriter

According to the links I posted above (it only took me five minutes to google the info), there are three categories of FDA clearance for devices:

Class 1: are items that pose little risk for the consumer (FDA website)
Class 2: are items that pose some risk to consumers, and are stringently tested in the laboratory. They are items such as the eflow.

Class 1 & 2 require FDA CLEARANCE only. They DO NOT have to be tested on people in clinical trials. They are strictly tested in the laboratory however.

Class 3: these are devices such as pace makers and stends, they pose a high risk to consumers and MUST have APPROVAL, not clearance...in order to gain approval from the FDA they MUST undergo clinical trials on people.

The disclaimer on the pharmacy sites relates to the use of Tobramycin IN the eflow. Tobramycin's efficacy in an eflow has not been tested in clinical trials.

It is really easy to look this up, like I said, it took me five minutes to google the info. I dont even live in the US.

The eflow will NEVER gain FDA APPROVAL, because it is not required to. It is a class 11 device, and as such ONLY requires CLEARANCE from the FDA. Have a look on my links above.

Your doctors and insurance companies are just covering their butts with the Tobramycin plus eflow decision. From what I understand of the issue, the eflow will not obtain FDA approval unless it is in a clinical trial to support a drug. The eflow itself is not required to obtain FDA approval.

By the way Nightwriter, I have not found Amy's responses rude, but I really feel that yours are. She has not said anything disparaging about you at all, just delivered the facts.

I personally appreciate her and feel that she brings a lot of good info to this forum that would be missed without her here.

dasjsmum · Aug 22, 2009

Hi Nightwriter

According to the links I posted above (it only took me five minutes to google the info), there are three categories of FDA clearance for devices:

Class 1: are items that pose little risk for the consumer (FDA website)
Class 2: are items that pose some risk to consumers, and are stringently tested in the laboratory. They are items such as the eflow.

Class 1 & 2 require FDA CLEARANCE only. They DO NOT have to be tested on people in clinical trials. They are strictly tested in the laboratory however.

Class 3: these are devices such as pace makers and stends, they pose a high risk to consumers and MUST have APPROVAL, not clearance...in order to gain approval from the FDA they MUST undergo clinical trials on people.

The disclaimer on the pharmacy sites relates to the use of Tobramycin IN the eflow. Tobramycin's efficacy in an eflow has not been tested in clinical trials.

It is really easy to look this up, like I said, it took me five minutes to google the info. I dont even live in the US.

The eflow will NEVER gain FDA APPROVAL, because it is not required to. It is a class 11 device, and as such ONLY requires CLEARANCE from the FDA. Have a look on my links above.

Your doctors and insurance companies are just covering their butts with the Tobramycin plus eflow decision. From what I understand of the issue, the eflow will not obtain FDA approval unless it is in a clinical trial to support a drug. The eflow itself is not required to obtain FDA approval.

By the way Nightwriter, I have not found Amy's responses rude, but I really feel that yours are. She has not said anything disparaging about you at all, just delivered the facts.

I personally appreciate her and feel that she brings a lot of good info to this forum that would be missed without her here.

dasjsmum · Aug 22, 2009

Hi Nightwriter

According to the links I posted above (it only took me five minutes to google the info), there are three categories of FDA clearance for devices:

Class 1: are items that pose little risk for the consumer (FDA website)
Class 2: are items that pose some risk to consumers, and are stringently tested in the laboratory. They are items such as the eflow.

Class 1 & 2 require FDA CLEARANCE only. They DO NOT have to be tested on people in clinical trials. They are strictly tested in the laboratory however.

Class 3: these are devices such as pace makers and stends, they pose a high risk to consumers and MUST have APPROVAL, not clearance...in order to gain approval from the FDA they MUST undergo clinical trials on people.

The disclaimer on the pharmacy sites relates to the use of Tobramycin IN the eflow. Tobramycin's efficacy in an eflow has not been tested in clinical trials.

It is really easy to look this up, like I said, it took me five minutes to google the info. I dont even live in the US.

The eflow will NEVER gain FDA APPROVAL, because it is not required to. It is a class 11 device, and as such ONLY requires CLEARANCE from the FDA. Have a look on my links above.

Your doctors and insurance companies are just covering their butts with the Tobramycin plus eflow decision. From what I understand of the issue, the eflow will not obtain FDA approval unless it is in a clinical trial to support a drug. The eflow itself is not required to obtain FDA approval.

By the way Nightwriter, I have not found Amy's responses rude, but I really feel that yours are. She has not said anything disparaging about you at all, just delivered the facts.

I personally appreciate her and feel that she brings a lot of good info to this forum that would be missed without her here.

dasjsmum · Aug 22, 2009

Hi Nightwriter
 
 According to the links I posted above (it only took me five minutes to google the info), there are three categories of FDA clearance for devices:
 
 Class 1: are items that pose little risk for the consumer (FDA website)
 Class 2: are items that pose some risk to consumers, and are stringently tested in the laboratory. They are items such as the eflow.
 
 Class 1 & 2 require FDA CLEARANCE only. They DO NOT have to be tested on people in clinical trials. They are strictly tested in the laboratory however.
 
 Class 3: these are devices such as pace makers and stends, they pose a high risk to consumers and MUST have APPROVAL, not clearance...in order to gain approval from the FDA they MUST undergo clinical trials on people.
 
 The disclaimer on the pharmacy sites relates to the use of Tobramycin IN the eflow. Tobramycin's efficacy in an eflow has not been tested in clinical trials.
 
 It is really easy to look this up, like I said, it took me five minutes to google the info. I dont even live in the US.
 
 The eflow will NEVER gain FDA APPROVAL, because it is not required to. It is a class 11 device, and as such ONLY requires CLEARANCE from the FDA. Have a look on my links above.
 
 Your doctors and insurance companies are just covering their butts with the Tobramycin plus eflow decision. From what I understand of the issue, the eflow will not obtain FDA approval unless it is in a clinical trial to support a drug. The eflow itself is not required to obtain FDA approval.
 
 By the way Nightwriter, I have not found Amy's responses rude, but I really feel that yours are. She has not said anything disparaging about you at all, just delivered the facts.
 
 I personally appreciate her and feel that she brings a lot of good info to this forum that would be missed without her here.

kiwilady · Aug 23, 2009

Hello Rosie,

I have been using the Pari e-flow rapid nebuliser since reading the the many positive reports from this site. I also did a little research before making the e-flow my choice for treatment.

Our National Cf branch here in New Zealand, have thankfully supplied the Cf patients with these E-flows at a reduced cost from EBOS healthcare.

I find this little, compact, handheld gizmo easy to use and pack away when travelling, compared to my trusty old Devilbiss Pulmo-Aide, which can be somewhat cumbersome to lumber about.

Good luck with your decision, not an easy one to make in light of the previous posts, and the fact that there are more nebulisers on the market these days.

I would also like to endorse what Jo has stated regarding Amy's input into this forum. Her blog too, is a valuable source of information.

Cheers
Eileen.<img src="i/expressions/sun.gif" border="0">

kiwilady · Aug 23, 2009

Hello Rosie,

I have been using the Pari e-flow rapid nebuliser since reading the the many positive reports from this site. I also did a little research before making the e-flow my choice for treatment.

Our National Cf branch here in New Zealand, have thankfully supplied the Cf patients with these E-flows at a reduced cost from EBOS healthcare.

I find this little, compact, handheld gizmo easy to use and pack away when travelling, compared to my trusty old Devilbiss Pulmo-Aide, which can be somewhat cumbersome to lumber about.

Good luck with your decision, not an easy one to make in light of the previous posts, and the fact that there are more nebulisers on the market these days.

I would also like to endorse what Jo has stated regarding Amy's input into this forum. Her blog too, is a valuable source of information.

Cheers
Eileen.<img src="i/expressions/sun.gif" border="0">

kiwilady · Aug 23, 2009

Hello Rosie,

I have been using the Pari e-flow rapid nebuliser since reading the the many positive reports from this site. I also did a little research before making the e-flow my choice for treatment.

Our National Cf branch here in New Zealand, have thankfully supplied the Cf patients with these E-flows at a reduced cost from EBOS healthcare.

I find this little, compact, handheld gizmo easy to use and pack away when travelling, compared to my trusty old Devilbiss Pulmo-Aide, which can be somewhat cumbersome to lumber about.

Good luck with your decision, not an easy one to make in light of the previous posts, and the fact that there are more nebulisers on the market these days.

I would also like to endorse what Jo has stated regarding Amy's input into this forum. Her blog too, is a valuable source of information.

Cheers
Eileen.<img src="i/expressions/sun.gif" border="0">

kiwilady · Aug 23, 2009

Hello Rosie,

I have been using the Pari e-flow rapid nebuliser since reading the the many positive reports from this site. I also did a little research before making the e-flow my choice for treatment.

Our National Cf branch here in New Zealand, have thankfully supplied the Cf patients with these E-flows at a reduced cost from EBOS healthcare.

I find this little, compact, handheld gizmo easy to use and pack away when travelling, compared to my trusty old Devilbiss Pulmo-Aide, which can be somewhat cumbersome to lumber about.

Good luck with your decision, not an easy one to make in light of the previous posts, and the fact that there are more nebulisers on the market these days.

I would also like to endorse what Jo has stated regarding Amy's input into this forum. Her blog too, is a valuable source of information.

Cheers
Eileen.<img src="i/expressions/sun.gif" border="0">

kiwilady · Aug 23, 2009

Hello Rosie,
 
 I have been using the Pari e-flow rapid nebuliser since reading the the many positive reports from this site. I also did a little research before making the e-flow my choice for treatment.
 
 Our National Cf branch here in New Zealand, have thankfully supplied the Cf patients with these E-flows at a reduced cost from EBOS healthcare.
 
 I find this little, compact, handheld gizmo easy to use and pack away when travelling, compared to my trusty old Devilbiss Pulmo-Aide, which can be somewhat cumbersome to lumber about.
 
 Good luck with your decision, not an easy one to make in light of the previous posts, and the fact that there are more nebulisers on the market these days.
 
 I would also like to endorse what Jo has stated regarding Amy's input into this forum. Her blog too, is a valuable source of information.
 
 Cheers
 Eileen.<img src="i/expressions/sun.gif" border="0">

Brad · Aug 23, 2009

Over here , IF Your Ins. will not cover it , and Mine Won't. The Cost is 1600.00

So I use the Omron NE-U22V , It works Just like the e flow ,but is easier to clean
and cost from 170. to 250. depending what Web store you buy it from.

As I said, It works Just like the other one and has been on the Market for over 10
years now.

Brad · Aug 23, 2009

Over here , IF Your Ins. will not cover it , and Mine Won't. The Cost is 1600.00

So I use the Omron NE-U22V , It works Just like the e flow ,but is easier to clean
and cost from 170. to 250. depending what Web store you buy it from.

As I said, It works Just like the other one and has been on the Market for over 10
years now.

Brad · Aug 23, 2009

Over here , IF Your Ins. will not cover it , and Mine Won't. The Cost is 1600.00

So I use the Omron NE-U22V , It works Just like the e flow ,but is easier to clean
and cost from 170. to 250. depending what Web store you buy it from.

As I said, It works Just like the other one and has been on the Market for over 10
years now.

Brad · Aug 23, 2009

Over here , IF Your Ins. will not cover it , and Mine Won't. The Cost is 1600.00

So I use the Omron NE-U22V , It works Just like the e flow ,but is easier to clean
and cost from 170. to 250. depending what Web store you buy it from.

As I said, It works Just like the other one and has been on the Market for over 10
years now.

Brad · Aug 23, 2009

Over here , IF Your Ins. will not cover it , and Mine Won't. The Cost is 1600.00
 
 So I use the Omron NE-U22V , It works Just like the e flow ,but is easier to clean
 and cost from 170. to 250. depending what Web store you buy it from.
 
 As I said, It works Just like the other one and has been on the Market for over 10
 years now.

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