Is this possible?

NYCLawGirl · Jan 15, 2009

Bear in mind, I know next to nothing about diabetes or insulin (knock on wood), so this is just a shot in the dark. Is there any way your insulin affects either your appetite and/or your energy level? For example, if your insulin makes you somehow less hungry, then even if you FEEL as though you're eating the same amount, you might gain a little weight without it. And likewise if your insulin increases your activity and/or heartrate some (even by a non-noticeable amount from your perspective) it could have an effect on how many calories you're burning. In the case of HR, it could affect your calories without you having to do or feel anything. Again, TOTAL guess, but maybe a possibility?

As for how much weight is "significant" - that's totally subjective. A smaller, petite person is far more affected by .5 pounds than a larger one, for example. I'm very tall, but also very thin, and when I lose or gain any weight (literally any, even a pound or maybe less) you can actually see it on my frame most of the time. And of course if you have difficulty maintaining then any gain is an accomplishment. Good for you.

I wouldn't stop insulin without speaking to my doctor though. Blood sugars come with a whole host of issues that don't involve weight...including lung involvement.

NYCLawGirl · Jan 15, 2009

Bear in mind, I know next to nothing about diabetes or insulin (knock on wood), so this is just a shot in the dark. Is there any way your insulin affects either your appetite and/or your energy level? For example, if your insulin makes you somehow less hungry, then even if you FEEL as though you're eating the same amount, you might gain a little weight without it. And likewise if your insulin increases your activity and/or heartrate some (even by a non-noticeable amount from your perspective) it could have an effect on how many calories you're burning. In the case of HR, it could affect your calories without you having to do or feel anything. Again, TOTAL guess, but maybe a possibility?

As for how much weight is "significant" - that's totally subjective. A smaller, petite person is far more affected by .5 pounds than a larger one, for example. I'm very tall, but also very thin, and when I lose or gain any weight (literally any, even a pound or maybe less) you can actually see it on my frame most of the time. And of course if you have difficulty maintaining then any gain is an accomplishment. Good for you.

I wouldn't stop insulin without speaking to my doctor though. Blood sugars come with a whole host of issues that don't involve weight...including lung involvement.

NYCLawGirl · Jan 15, 2009

Bear in mind, I know next to nothing about diabetes or insulin (knock on wood), so this is just a shot in the dark. Is there any way your insulin affects either your appetite and/or your energy level? For example, if your insulin makes you somehow less hungry, then even if you FEEL as though you're eating the same amount, you might gain a little weight without it. And likewise if your insulin increases your activity and/or heartrate some (even by a non-noticeable amount from your perspective) it could have an effect on how many calories you're burning. In the case of HR, it could affect your calories without you having to do or feel anything. Again, TOTAL guess, but maybe a possibility?

As for how much weight is "significant" - that's totally subjective. A smaller, petite person is far more affected by .5 pounds than a larger one, for example. I'm very tall, but also very thin, and when I lose or gain any weight (literally any, even a pound or maybe less) you can actually see it on my frame most of the time. And of course if you have difficulty maintaining then any gain is an accomplishment. Good for you.

I wouldn't stop insulin without speaking to my doctor though. Blood sugars come with a whole host of issues that don't involve weight...including lung involvement.

NYCLawGirl · Jan 15, 2009

Bear in mind, I know next to nothing about diabetes or insulin (knock on wood), so this is just a shot in the dark. Is there any way your insulin affects either your appetite and/or your energy level? For example, if your insulin makes you somehow less hungry, then even if you FEEL as though you're eating the same amount, you might gain a little weight without it. And likewise if your insulin increases your activity and/or heartrate some (even by a non-noticeable amount from your perspective) it could have an effect on how many calories you're burning. In the case of HR, it could affect your calories without you having to do or feel anything. Again, TOTAL guess, but maybe a possibility?

As for how much weight is "significant" - that's totally subjective. A smaller, petite person is far more affected by .5 pounds than a larger one, for example. I'm very tall, but also very thin, and when I lose or gain any weight (literally any, even a pound or maybe less) you can actually see it on my frame most of the time. And of course if you have difficulty maintaining then any gain is an accomplishment. Good for you.

I wouldn't stop insulin without speaking to my doctor though. Blood sugars come with a whole host of issues that don't involve weight...including lung involvement.

NYCLawGirl · Jan 15, 2009

Bear in mind, I know next to nothing about diabetes or insulin (knock on wood), so this is just a shot in the dark. Is there any way your insulin affects either your appetite and/or your energy level? For example, if your insulin makes you somehow less hungry, then even if you FEEL as though you're eating the same amount, you might gain a little weight without it. And likewise if your insulin increases your activity and/or heartrate some (even by a non-noticeable amount from your perspective) it could have an effect on how many calories you're burning. In the case of HR, it could affect your calories without you having to do or feel anything. Again, TOTAL guess, but maybe a possibility?
 
 As for how much weight is "significant" - that's totally subjective. A smaller, petite person is far more affected by .5 pounds than a larger one, for example. I'm very tall, but also very thin, and when I lose or gain any weight (literally any, even a pound or maybe less) you can actually see it on my frame most of the time. And of course if you have difficulty maintaining then any gain is an accomplishment. Good for you.
 
 I wouldn't stop insulin without speaking to my doctor though. Blood sugars come with a whole host of issues that don't involve weight...including lung involvement.

ladybug · Jan 16, 2009

I agree about not stopping the insulin to gain weight and maybe it is a fluke, but i just think its super odd that its happened in the past too.

Interesting idea about the water retention too... Hmmm...

I guess if I keep an eye on my glucose levels when I don't take it and they're staying normal, I should be fine doing it and seeing if I can pack on the lbs.

And, very interesting about the insulin PERHAPS causing increases in HR etc. causing me to burn more calories. Interesting perspective.

On another note, does anyone know why when the general population has diabetes requiring insulin they tend to be obese and overweight while for CFRD its completely opposite and we can't keep weight on without insulin?

Is it just because those people are storing the sugar and its making them fat and we're just peeing it away or loosing it to malabsorption?

It just seems weird to me that if we keep the sugar in our bodies long enough to give us high blood sugar and ruin our organs just like TYPE II, why doesn't the excess sugar causing a spike cause us to put on weight too?

I'm sure I've been told this before and think it has to do with malabsorbtion, but its just interesting to me they're completely opposite body reactions treated the exact same way (with insulin, pills, etc.)

ladybug · Jan 16, 2009

I agree about not stopping the insulin to gain weight and maybe it is a fluke, but i just think its super odd that its happened in the past too.

Interesting idea about the water retention too... Hmmm...

I guess if I keep an eye on my glucose levels when I don't take it and they're staying normal, I should be fine doing it and seeing if I can pack on the lbs.

And, very interesting about the insulin PERHAPS causing increases in HR etc. causing me to burn more calories. Interesting perspective.

On another note, does anyone know why when the general population has diabetes requiring insulin they tend to be obese and overweight while for CFRD its completely opposite and we can't keep weight on without insulin?

Is it just because those people are storing the sugar and its making them fat and we're just peeing it away or loosing it to malabsorption?

It just seems weird to me that if we keep the sugar in our bodies long enough to give us high blood sugar and ruin our organs just like TYPE II, why doesn't the excess sugar causing a spike cause us to put on weight too?

I'm sure I've been told this before and think it has to do with malabsorbtion, but its just interesting to me they're completely opposite body reactions treated the exact same way (with insulin, pills, etc.)

ladybug · Jan 16, 2009

I agree about not stopping the insulin to gain weight and maybe it is a fluke, but i just think its super odd that its happened in the past too.

Interesting idea about the water retention too... Hmmm...

I guess if I keep an eye on my glucose levels when I don't take it and they're staying normal, I should be fine doing it and seeing if I can pack on the lbs.

And, very interesting about the insulin PERHAPS causing increases in HR etc. causing me to burn more calories. Interesting perspective.

On another note, does anyone know why when the general population has diabetes requiring insulin they tend to be obese and overweight while for CFRD its completely opposite and we can't keep weight on without insulin?

Is it just because those people are storing the sugar and its making them fat and we're just peeing it away or loosing it to malabsorption?

It just seems weird to me that if we keep the sugar in our bodies long enough to give us high blood sugar and ruin our organs just like TYPE II, why doesn't the excess sugar causing a spike cause us to put on weight too?

I'm sure I've been told this before and think it has to do with malabsorbtion, but its just interesting to me they're completely opposite body reactions treated the exact same way (with insulin, pills, etc.)

ladybug · Jan 16, 2009

I agree about not stopping the insulin to gain weight and maybe it is a fluke, but i just think its super odd that its happened in the past too.

Interesting idea about the water retention too... Hmmm...

I guess if I keep an eye on my glucose levels when I don't take it and they're staying normal, I should be fine doing it and seeing if I can pack on the lbs.

And, very interesting about the insulin PERHAPS causing increases in HR etc. causing me to burn more calories. Interesting perspective.

On another note, does anyone know why when the general population has diabetes requiring insulin they tend to be obese and overweight while for CFRD its completely opposite and we can't keep weight on without insulin?

Is it just because those people are storing the sugar and its making them fat and we're just peeing it away or loosing it to malabsorption?

It just seems weird to me that if we keep the sugar in our bodies long enough to give us high blood sugar and ruin our organs just like TYPE II, why doesn't the excess sugar causing a spike cause us to put on weight too?

I'm sure I've been told this before and think it has to do with malabsorbtion, but its just interesting to me they're completely opposite body reactions treated the exact same way (with insulin, pills, etc.)

ladybug · Jan 16, 2009

I agree about not stopping the insulin to gain weight and maybe it is a fluke, but i just think its super odd that its happened in the past too.
 
 Interesting idea about the water retention too... Hmmm...
 
 I guess if I keep an eye on my glucose levels when I don't take it and they're staying normal, I should be fine doing it and seeing if I can pack on the lbs.
 
 And, very interesting about the insulin PERHAPS causing increases in HR etc. causing me to burn more calories. Interesting perspective.
 
 On another note, does anyone know why when the general population has diabetes requiring insulin they tend to be obese and overweight while for CFRD its completely opposite and we can't keep weight on without insulin?
 
 Is it just because those people are storing the sugar and its making them fat and we're just peeing it away or loosing it to malabsorption?
 
 It just seems weird to me that if we keep the sugar in our bodies long enough to give us high blood sugar and ruin our organs just like TYPE II, why doesn't the excess sugar causing a spike cause us to put on weight too?
 
 I'm sure I've been told this before and think it has to do with malabsorbtion, but its just interesting to me they're completely opposite body reactions treated the exact same way (with insulin, pills, etc.)

AnD · Jan 16, 2009

Warning: random, late night thoughts on the subject ahead, lol:

My mom has type 2 diabetes, and before she was diagnosed, she had a sudden weight drop of 20 lbs. She contributed it to being in the middle of moving, but, um, my parents have moved ALOT and that's never happened before,lol, and both my sister and I knew something wasn't right. A few months later, she was diagnosed.

I think (just me thinking <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ), the weight loss *may* come from extremely uncontrolled diabetes, and that moderately, but still badly, controlled diabetes will let you still be heavy. Also, I think that a bunch of people with type 2 are type 2 because of their weight, and those are the people whose diabetes improves with weight loss.

I also think that weight loss with high blood sugar is common in type 1 diabetes, if that is of any help at all. I, for one, lose weight when I have poorly controlled sugars, and have gained several (unwanted) pounds with insulin. *sigh*

I agree about the water weight that Melissa mentioned- I definitely bloat when my sugar is high. Also,Piper has a good point- I would keep a food diary. I know that I tend not to eat something if it is not "shot worthy", lol. Maybe you are doing that (even subconsiously) too? And lastly, are you more active when your sugars are well controlled? I know I feel like crap when my bs are high, and don't do as much as I usually would. Good luck!

AnD · Jan 16, 2009

Warning: random, late night thoughts on the subject ahead, lol:

My mom has type 2 diabetes, and before she was diagnosed, she had a sudden weight drop of 20 lbs. She contributed it to being in the middle of moving, but, um, my parents have moved ALOT and that's never happened before,lol, and both my sister and I knew something wasn't right. A few months later, she was diagnosed.

I think (just me thinking <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ), the weight loss *may* come from extremely uncontrolled diabetes, and that moderately, but still badly, controlled diabetes will let you still be heavy. Also, I think that a bunch of people with type 2 are type 2 because of their weight, and those are the people whose diabetes improves with weight loss.

I also think that weight loss with high blood sugar is common in type 1 diabetes, if that is of any help at all. I, for one, lose weight when I have poorly controlled sugars, and have gained several (unwanted) pounds with insulin. *sigh*

I agree about the water weight that Melissa mentioned- I definitely bloat when my sugar is high. Also,Piper has a good point- I would keep a food diary. I know that I tend not to eat something if it is not "shot worthy", lol. Maybe you are doing that (even subconsiously) too? And lastly, are you more active when your sugars are well controlled? I know I feel like crap when my bs are high, and don't do as much as I usually would. Good luck!

AnD · Jan 16, 2009

Warning: random, late night thoughts on the subject ahead, lol:

My mom has type 2 diabetes, and before she was diagnosed, she had a sudden weight drop of 20 lbs. She contributed it to being in the middle of moving, but, um, my parents have moved ALOT and that's never happened before,lol, and both my sister and I knew something wasn't right. A few months later, she was diagnosed.

I think (just me thinking <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ), the weight loss *may* come from extremely uncontrolled diabetes, and that moderately, but still badly, controlled diabetes will let you still be heavy. Also, I think that a bunch of people with type 2 are type 2 because of their weight, and those are the people whose diabetes improves with weight loss.

I also think that weight loss with high blood sugar is common in type 1 diabetes, if that is of any help at all. I, for one, lose weight when I have poorly controlled sugars, and have gained several (unwanted) pounds with insulin. *sigh*

I agree about the water weight that Melissa mentioned- I definitely bloat when my sugar is high. Also,Piper has a good point- I would keep a food diary. I know that I tend not to eat something if it is not "shot worthy", lol. Maybe you are doing that (even subconsiously) too? And lastly, are you more active when your sugars are well controlled? I know I feel like crap when my bs are high, and don't do as much as I usually would. Good luck!

AnD · Jan 16, 2009

Warning: random, late night thoughts on the subject ahead, lol:

My mom has type 2 diabetes, and before she was diagnosed, she had a sudden weight drop of 20 lbs. She contributed it to being in the middle of moving, but, um, my parents have moved ALOT and that's never happened before,lol, and both my sister and I knew something wasn't right. A few months later, she was diagnosed.

I think (just me thinking <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ), the weight loss *may* come from extremely uncontrolled diabetes, and that moderately, but still badly, controlled diabetes will let you still be heavy. Also, I think that a bunch of people with type 2 are type 2 because of their weight, and those are the people whose diabetes improves with weight loss.

I also think that weight loss with high blood sugar is common in type 1 diabetes, if that is of any help at all. I, for one, lose weight when I have poorly controlled sugars, and have gained several (unwanted) pounds with insulin. *sigh*

I agree about the water weight that Melissa mentioned- I definitely bloat when my sugar is high. Also,Piper has a good point- I would keep a food diary. I know that I tend not to eat something if it is not "shot worthy", lol. Maybe you are doing that (even subconsiously) too? And lastly, are you more active when your sugars are well controlled? I know I feel like crap when my bs are high, and don't do as much as I usually would. Good luck!

AnD · Jan 16, 2009

Warning: random, late night thoughts on the subject ahead, lol:
 
 My mom has type 2 diabetes, and before she was diagnosed, she had a sudden weight drop of 20 lbs. She contributed it to being in the middle of moving, but, um, my parents have moved ALOT and that's never happened before,lol, and both my sister and I knew something wasn't right. A few months later, she was diagnosed.
 
 I think (just me thinking <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ), the weight loss *may* come from extremely uncontrolled diabetes, and that moderately, but still badly, controlled diabetes will let you still be heavy. Also, I think that a bunch of people with type 2 are type 2 because of their weight, and those are the people whose diabetes improves with weight loss.
 
 I also think that weight loss with high blood sugar is common in type 1 diabetes, if that is of any help at all. I, for one, lose weight when I have poorly controlled sugars, and have gained several (unwanted) pounds with insulin. *sigh*
 
 I agree about the water weight that Melissa mentioned- I definitely bloat when my sugar is high. Also,Piper has a good point- I would keep a food diary. I know that I tend not to eat something if it is not "shot worthy", lol. Maybe you are doing that (even subconsiously) too? And lastly, are you more active when your sugars are well controlled? I know I feel like crap when my bs are high, and don't do as much as I usually would. Good luck!

cfsucks · Jan 17, 2009

i've fluctuated up to 8 pounds in one day, and im not a big person either.
plus the human body is known to fluctuate commonly by around 4 pounds throughout a day. (water weight)

cfsucks · Jan 17, 2009

i've fluctuated up to 8 pounds in one day, and im not a big person either.
plus the human body is known to fluctuate commonly by around 4 pounds throughout a day. (water weight)

cfsucks · Jan 17, 2009

i've fluctuated up to 8 pounds in one day, and im not a big person either.
plus the human body is known to fluctuate commonly by around 4 pounds throughout a day. (water weight)

cfsucks · Jan 17, 2009

i've fluctuated up to 8 pounds in one day, and im not a big person either.
plus the human body is known to fluctuate commonly by around 4 pounds throughout a day. (water weight)

cfsucks · Jan 17, 2009

i've fluctuated up to 8 pounds in one day, and im not a big person either.
 plus the human body is known to fluctuate commonly by around 4 pounds throughout a day. (water weight)

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