Legally married versus ceremonial marriage

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Keepercjr

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why am I not seeing the posts being made? I can see that some have been made since 8/1 but they are not showing up for me?
 

julie

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Jennifer, I was relating medicare to old people ONLY in THIS particular instance because of the way that she worded it. It is FIRST and FOREMOST for those who are over the age of 65. It was later implemented as a benefit of SSDI after 24 months on SSDI, or as an immediate benefit to those with 1-2 specific diseases. It was irrelevant to discuss it in that depth at this point since I was simply trying to illustrate the differences between medicaid and medicare as schmj4910 related them. Furthermore this is NOT a topic specifically about SSDI. And them be fightin words from you I think because you KNOW I know this. We've had this discussion MANY times, on and off this board. So kindly back off, this is not the day to mess with me.
As far as medicaid goes... yes, you CAN be on it if you are poor. THERE DOES NOT NEED TO BE MORE TO THE STORY. And I can state this as a fact considering I am on it, and my children are on it and we have NO medical "diseases". We are simply poor. Bottom line, end of story.
I really wish people would educate themselves before they post "absolutes" on this website and get people all up in a freaking tizzy.
Do you know how many 100's of emails and PM's I got about "julie People are posting about losing their SSDI benefits when they got married, is this true????". Granted, SSA is either REALLY taking advantage of this person, or this person isn't clear on what they are talking about. And I think it's 99.9% the latter because they both have YET to contact me at any of the FREE contact availabilities listed above.
This topic, for all intents and purposes, was a "TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT" topic. If it helped you in your struggle with "do we get married and lose benefits or don't get legally married and keep benefits???", then awesome. If that shoe doesn't fit for you, no hard feelings. This was not a "this is the way it ought to be and if you don't do it this way your wrong" post. So calm down people. Especially on the religious aspect. I get that it doesn't work for your religion. Great, don't do it...
 

julie

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Jennifer, I was relating medicare to old people ONLY in THIS particular instance because of the way that she worded it. It is FIRST and FOREMOST for those who are over the age of 65. It was later implemented as a benefit of SSDI after 24 months on SSDI, or as an immediate benefit to those with 1-2 specific diseases. It was irrelevant to discuss it in that depth at this point since I was simply trying to illustrate the differences between medicaid and medicare as schmj4910 related them. Furthermore this is NOT a topic specifically about SSDI. And them be fightin words from you I think because you KNOW I know this. We've had this discussion MANY times, on and off this board. So kindly back off, this is not the day to mess with me.
As far as medicaid goes... yes, you CAN be on it if you are poor. THERE DOES NOT NEED TO BE MORE TO THE STORY. And I can state this as a fact considering I am on it, and my children are on it and we have NO medical "diseases". We are simply poor. Bottom line, end of story.
I really wish people would educate themselves before they post "absolutes" on this website and get people all up in a freaking tizzy.
Do you know how many 100's of emails and PM's I got about "julie People are posting about losing their SSDI benefits when they got married, is this true????". Granted, SSA is either REALLY taking advantage of this person, or this person isn't clear on what they are talking about. And I think it's 99.9% the latter because they both have YET to contact me at any of the FREE contact availabilities listed above.
This topic, for all intents and purposes, was a "TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT" topic. If it helped you in your struggle with "do we get married and lose benefits or don't get legally married and keep benefits???", then awesome. If that shoe doesn't fit for you, no hard feelings. This was not a "this is the way it ought to be and if you don't do it this way your wrong" post. So calm down people. Especially on the religious aspect. I get that it doesn't work for your religion. Great, don't do it...
 

julie

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Jennifer, I was relating medicare to old people ONLY in THIS particular instance because of the way that she worded it. It is FIRST and FOREMOST for those who are over the age of 65. It was later implemented as a benefit of SSDI after 24 months on SSDI, or as an immediate benefit to those with 1-2 specific diseases. It was irrelevant to discuss it in that depth at this point since I was simply trying to illustrate the differences between medicaid and medicare as schmj4910 related them. Furthermore this is NOT a topic specifically about SSDI. And them be fightin words from you I think because you KNOW I know this. We've had this discussion MANY times, on and off this board. So kindly back off, this is not the day to mess with me.
<br />As far as medicaid goes... yes, you CAN be on it if you are poor. THERE DOES NOT NEED TO BE MORE TO THE STORY. And I can state this as a fact considering I am on it, and my children are on it and we have NO medical "diseases". We are simply poor. Bottom line, end of story.
<br />I really wish people would educate themselves before they post "absolutes" on this website and get people all up in a freaking tizzy.
<br />Do you know how many 100's of emails and PM's I got about "julie People are posting about losing their SSDI benefits when they got married, is this true????". Granted, SSA is either REALLY taking advantage of this person, or this person isn't clear on what they are talking about. And I think it's 99.9% the latter because they both have YET to contact me at any of the FREE contact availabilities listed above.
<br />This topic, for all intents and purposes, was a "TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT" topic. If it helped you in your struggle with "do we get married and lose benefits or don't get legally married and keep benefits???", then awesome. If that shoe doesn't fit for you, no hard feelings. This was not a "this is the way it ought to be and if you don't do it this way your wrong" post. So calm down people. Especially on the religious aspect. I get that it doesn't work for your religion. Great, don't do it...
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musclemania70

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yeah, seriously. If you are eligible for Social Security Disability at the age of 25, you are eligible for Medicare, so I'm not sure why you think that Medicare is old people's health insurance. It was set up to help the elderly AND the people who qualify as disabled, regardless of age.

It is a COMMON misconception to many that Medicare is only for the old folks.
 

musclemania70

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yeah, seriously. If you are eligible for Social Security Disability at the age of 25, you are eligible for Medicare, so I'm not sure why you think that Medicare is old people's health insurance. It was set up to help the elderly AND the people who qualify as disabled, regardless of age.

It is a COMMON misconception to many that Medicare is only for the old folks.
 

musclemania70

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yeah, seriously. If you are eligible for Social Security Disability at the age of 25, you are eligible for Medicare, so I'm not sure why you think that Medicare is old people's health insurance. It was set up to help the elderly AND the people who qualify as disabled, regardless of age.
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<br />It is a COMMON misconception to many that Medicare is only for the old folks.
 

musclemania70

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And you can also be married and still get SSDI, and Medicare if you file taxes separately. MEDICAID is what is taken away because no matter what, it takes into account your spouses income whether or not you file taxes separately or together.
 

musclemania70

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And you can also be married and still get SSDI, and Medicare if you file taxes separately. MEDICAID is what is taken away because no matter what, it takes into account your spouses income whether or not you file taxes separately or together.
 

musclemania70

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And you can also be married and still get SSDI, and Medicare if you file taxes separately. MEDICAID is what is taken away because no matter what, it takes into account your spouses income whether or not you file taxes separately or together.
 

schmj4910

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Julie - I think you misunderstood my post...I was not discussing the differences between Medicare and Medicaid. Honestly, I don't know the differences, so I typically use the term "Medicare/Medicaid" to mean government-funded health care.

My question for the "not legally married" CF people was: Are you asked to report single income or household income? My point was that if you are being asked for your household income, that is what you should report, regardless of marriage status. If you are not truthful about your income, you could be found guilty of fraud, which probably has some dire consequences.

I have heard about people lying to collect unemployment insurance money, only to be found out and forced to repay the money. It would be horrible if someone had to repay all of their Medicare/Medicaid-covered things. I know my son's meds cost close to $10,000/month and he is "healthy".

Julie - From your angry posts, I can tell that you are struggling with something and I hope you are able to resolve that soon. I am sorry for "getting you into a tizzy". I just wanted to post a point that has not been brought up yet.
 

schmj4910

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Julie - I think you misunderstood my post...I was not discussing the differences between Medicare and Medicaid. Honestly, I don't know the differences, so I typically use the term "Medicare/Medicaid" to mean government-funded health care.

My question for the "not legally married" CF people was: Are you asked to report single income or household income? My point was that if you are being asked for your household income, that is what you should report, regardless of marriage status. If you are not truthful about your income, you could be found guilty of fraud, which probably has some dire consequences.

I have heard about people lying to collect unemployment insurance money, only to be found out and forced to repay the money. It would be horrible if someone had to repay all of their Medicare/Medicaid-covered things. I know my son's meds cost close to $10,000/month and he is "healthy".

Julie - From your angry posts, I can tell that you are struggling with something and I hope you are able to resolve that soon. I am sorry for "getting you into a tizzy". I just wanted to post a point that has not been brought up yet.
 

schmj4910

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Julie - I think you misunderstood my post...I was not discussing the differences between Medicare and Medicaid. Honestly, I don't know the differences, so I typically use the term "Medicare/Medicaid" to mean government-funded health care.
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<br />My question for the "not legally married" CF people was: Are you asked to report single income or household income? My point was that if you are being asked for your household income, that is what you should report, regardless of marriage status. If you are not truthful about your income, you could be found guilty of fraud, which probably has some dire consequences.
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<br />I have heard about people lying to collect unemployment insurance money, only to be found out and forced to repay the money. It would be horrible if someone had to repay all of their Medicare/Medicaid-covered things. I know my son's meds cost close to $10,000/month and he is "healthy".
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<br />Julie - From your angry posts, I can tell that you are struggling with something and I hope you are able to resolve that soon. I am sorry for "getting you into a tizzy". I just wanted to post a point that has not been brought up yet.
 

crystalina0814

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I think it is a very difficult decision to make. Ultimately for me, and my own personal reasons, I chose to be "legally" married to my husband. I am blessed to have a husband who does carry pretty good health insurance, as well as my own SSDI. At times we do struggle. I really do wish this wasn't the case, and people with disabilities could be both legally married and still qualify for more help when it comes to maintaining our health. On the other hand, that is probably one of the contributing factors to why our country is in so much financial turmoil now- to many people trying to ride the same boat. I have watched my parents lose everything financially because of my mom having breast cancer, and NOT qualifying for government help. It stinks.
 

crystalina0814

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I think it is a very difficult decision to make. Ultimately for me, and my own personal reasons, I chose to be "legally" married to my husband. I am blessed to have a husband who does carry pretty good health insurance, as well as my own SSDI. At times we do struggle. I really do wish this wasn't the case, and people with disabilities could be both legally married and still qualify for more help when it comes to maintaining our health. On the other hand, that is probably one of the contributing factors to why our country is in so much financial turmoil now- to many people trying to ride the same boat. I have watched my parents lose everything financially because of my mom having breast cancer, and NOT qualifying for government help. It stinks.
 

crystalina0814

New member
I think it is a very difficult decision to make. Ultimately for me, and my own personal reasons, I chose to be "legally" married to my husband. I am blessed to have a husband who does carry pretty good health insurance, as well as my own SSDI. At times we do struggle. I really do wish this wasn't the case, and people with disabilities could be both legally married and still qualify for more help when it comes to maintaining our health. On the other hand, that is probably one of the contributing factors to why our country is in so much financial turmoil now- to many people trying to ride the same boat. I have watched my parents lose everything financially because of my mom having breast cancer, and NOT qualifying for government help. It stinks.
 

cfddmmc

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I so agree with you, its the meaning not the word.  I will tell you that my husband and I are legally seperated.  He is a very very active guy and needed to keep going, as I am end stage, that just was not working.  He still supports me, we still live in the same house.  He is here to help when I need him.  However, when I went to Cleveland Clinic last year for transplant evaluation I was turned down, the only reason being they did not like our arrangement.  The social worker there wanted us to get a divorce and move out.  I don't know that she understood CF very well.
 

cfddmmc

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I so agree with you, its the meaning not the word. I will tell you that my husband and I are legally seperated. He is a very very active guy and needed to keep going, as I am end stage, that just was not working. He still supports me, we still live in the same house. He is here to help when I need him. However, when I went to Cleveland Clinic last year for transplant evaluation I was turned down, the only reason being they did not like our arrangement. The social worker there wanted us to get a divorce and move out. I don't know that she understood CF very well.
 

cfddmmc

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<BR>I so agree with you, its the meaning not the word. I will tell you that my husband and I are legally seperated. He is a very very active guy and needed to keep going, as I am end stage, that just was not working. He still supports me, we still live in the same house. He is here to help when I need him. However, when I went to Cleveland Clinic last year for transplant evaluation I was turned down, the only reason being they did not like our arrangement. The social worker there wanted us to get a divorce and move out. I don't know that she understood CF very well.
 
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Keepercjr

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>I have watched my parents lose everything financially because of my mom having breast cancer, and NOT qualifying for government help. It stinks.</end quote></div><br><br></i>The same thing happened to my inlaws but different medical issue.  My mother in law almost died from diverticulitis gone horribly wrong and now they are financially ruined for a very long time since they had no health insurance and did not qualify for any assistance.   We even have collectors calling here!  <br><br>I am quite happy with my living situation and agree with the nature of Julie's original post minus the religious aspect since we do not have a religious belief.  I suppose there is nothing more for me to say <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"><i><br></i>
 
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