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Mommafirst

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My daughter had borderline sweats, so when they found her two mutations -- one being a very unknown rare one -- doctors used the label atypical as well. They defined it for us as "gentic CF, but no clinical CF...yet". We were cautioned that atypical did not mean milder or less severe and that moderate or even low sweats didn't have anything to do with severity of the disease. FWIW, once my dd had a CF exacerbation, they removed the "atypical" tag line and now she is just talked about as having CF.
 
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Mommafirst

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My daughter had borderline sweats, so when they found her two mutations -- one being a very unknown rare one -- doctors used the label atypical as well. They defined it for us as "gentic CF, but no clinical CF...yet". We were cautioned that atypical did not mean milder or less severe and that moderate or even low sweats didn't have anything to do with severity of the disease. FWIW, once my dd had a CF exacerbation, they removed the "atypical" tag line and now she is just talked about as having CF.
 
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Mommafirst

Guest
My daughter had borderline sweats, so when they found her two mutations -- one being a very unknown rare one -- doctors used the label atypical as well. They defined it for us as "gentic CF, but no clinical CF...yet". We were cautioned that atypical did not mean milder or less severe and that moderate or even low sweats didn't have anything to do with severity of the disease. FWIW, once my dd had a CF exacerbation, they removed the "atypical" tag line and now she is just talked about as having CF.
 
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Mommafirst

Guest
My daughter had borderline sweats, so when they found her two mutations -- one being a very unknown rare one -- doctors used the label atypical as well. They defined it for us as "gentic CF, but no clinical CF...yet". We were cautioned that atypical did not mean milder or less severe and that moderate or even low sweats didn't have anything to do with severity of the disease. FWIW, once my dd had a CF exacerbation, they removed the "atypical" tag line and now she is just talked about as having CF.
 
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Mommafirst

Guest
My daughter had borderline sweats, so when they found her two mutations -- one being a very unknown rare one -- doctors used the label atypical as well. They defined it for us as "gentic CF, but no clinical CF...yet". We were cautioned that atypical did not mean milder or less severe and that moderate or even low sweats didn't have anything to do with severity of the disease. FWIW, once my dd had a CF exacerbation, they removed the "atypical" tag line and now she is just talked about as having CF.
 

TestifyToLove

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Atypical seems to refer to one of 2 things. Either you have established mutations but no clinical manifestations of CF. Or, you have clinical symptoms but no identifiable genetic mutations.

Its my understanding that most CFF accredited centers will NOT diagnose atypical CF without genetic mutations. But, its a definite grey area. Given that there are over 1000 identifed mutations the thinking that there are more which are not identified and perhaps someone with clinical symptoms would benefit from the same protocals and aggressive treatment as those with classic presentations of the disease. Whereas the other end of that coin is the thought that likely the patient actually has something else which is being missed by giving the diagnosis of atypical CF without the proven genetic mutation.

As for those with established mutations but not clinical symptoms, doctors really don't want to give the atypical diagnosis to children who are diagnosed because of symptoms. However, what happens is that often when a child is diagnosed, the doctors then trace the family tree back and start testing people. That's when you find the 30 year old uncle who's fit as a fiddle, never shown symptoms of disease...but his genetic screening says he has CF.

There's not an established agreement on what to do in those cases. Do you start the healthy adult on the aggressive protocal under the assumption that at SOME point they will progress. Or, do you watch them, study them and try to figure out why they have a known mutation but appear to not have a clinical presentation of the disease they should have.

So, some CF centers don't even deal with the diagnosis of atypical. Others do. But, the term is definite something different than the mild/moderate/severe classification.
 

TestifyToLove

New member
Atypical seems to refer to one of 2 things. Either you have established mutations but no clinical manifestations of CF. Or, you have clinical symptoms but no identifiable genetic mutations.

Its my understanding that most CFF accredited centers will NOT diagnose atypical CF without genetic mutations. But, its a definite grey area. Given that there are over 1000 identifed mutations the thinking that there are more which are not identified and perhaps someone with clinical symptoms would benefit from the same protocals and aggressive treatment as those with classic presentations of the disease. Whereas the other end of that coin is the thought that likely the patient actually has something else which is being missed by giving the diagnosis of atypical CF without the proven genetic mutation.

As for those with established mutations but not clinical symptoms, doctors really don't want to give the atypical diagnosis to children who are diagnosed because of symptoms. However, what happens is that often when a child is diagnosed, the doctors then trace the family tree back and start testing people. That's when you find the 30 year old uncle who's fit as a fiddle, never shown symptoms of disease...but his genetic screening says he has CF.

There's not an established agreement on what to do in those cases. Do you start the healthy adult on the aggressive protocal under the assumption that at SOME point they will progress. Or, do you watch them, study them and try to figure out why they have a known mutation but appear to not have a clinical presentation of the disease they should have.

So, some CF centers don't even deal with the diagnosis of atypical. Others do. But, the term is definite something different than the mild/moderate/severe classification.
 

TestifyToLove

New member
Atypical seems to refer to one of 2 things. Either you have established mutations but no clinical manifestations of CF. Or, you have clinical symptoms but no identifiable genetic mutations.

Its my understanding that most CFF accredited centers will NOT diagnose atypical CF without genetic mutations. But, its a definite grey area. Given that there are over 1000 identifed mutations the thinking that there are more which are not identified and perhaps someone with clinical symptoms would benefit from the same protocals and aggressive treatment as those with classic presentations of the disease. Whereas the other end of that coin is the thought that likely the patient actually has something else which is being missed by giving the diagnosis of atypical CF without the proven genetic mutation.

As for those with established mutations but not clinical symptoms, doctors really don't want to give the atypical diagnosis to children who are diagnosed because of symptoms. However, what happens is that often when a child is diagnosed, the doctors then trace the family tree back and start testing people. That's when you find the 30 year old uncle who's fit as a fiddle, never shown symptoms of disease...but his genetic screening says he has CF.

There's not an established agreement on what to do in those cases. Do you start the healthy adult on the aggressive protocal under the assumption that at SOME point they will progress. Or, do you watch them, study them and try to figure out why they have a known mutation but appear to not have a clinical presentation of the disease they should have.

So, some CF centers don't even deal with the diagnosis of atypical. Others do. But, the term is definite something different than the mild/moderate/severe classification.
 

TestifyToLove

New member
Atypical seems to refer to one of 2 things. Either you have established mutations but no clinical manifestations of CF. Or, you have clinical symptoms but no identifiable genetic mutations.

Its my understanding that most CFF accredited centers will NOT diagnose atypical CF without genetic mutations. But, its a definite grey area. Given that there are over 1000 identifed mutations the thinking that there are more which are not identified and perhaps someone with clinical symptoms would benefit from the same protocals and aggressive treatment as those with classic presentations of the disease. Whereas the other end of that coin is the thought that likely the patient actually has something else which is being missed by giving the diagnosis of atypical CF without the proven genetic mutation.

As for those with established mutations but not clinical symptoms, doctors really don't want to give the atypical diagnosis to children who are diagnosed because of symptoms. However, what happens is that often when a child is diagnosed, the doctors then trace the family tree back and start testing people. That's when you find the 30 year old uncle who's fit as a fiddle, never shown symptoms of disease...but his genetic screening says he has CF.

There's not an established agreement on what to do in those cases. Do you start the healthy adult on the aggressive protocal under the assumption that at SOME point they will progress. Or, do you watch them, study them and try to figure out why they have a known mutation but appear to not have a clinical presentation of the disease they should have.

So, some CF centers don't even deal with the diagnosis of atypical. Others do. But, the term is definite something different than the mild/moderate/severe classification.
 

TestifyToLove

New member
Atypical seems to refer to one of 2 things. Either you have established mutations but no clinical manifestations of CF. Or, you have clinical symptoms but no identifiable genetic mutations.
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<br />Its my understanding that most CFF accredited centers will NOT diagnose atypical CF without genetic mutations. But, its a definite grey area. Given that there are over 1000 identifed mutations the thinking that there are more which are not identified and perhaps someone with clinical symptoms would benefit from the same protocals and aggressive treatment as those with classic presentations of the disease. Whereas the other end of that coin is the thought that likely the patient actually has something else which is being missed by giving the diagnosis of atypical CF without the proven genetic mutation.
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<br />As for those with established mutations but not clinical symptoms, doctors really don't want to give the atypical diagnosis to children who are diagnosed because of symptoms. However, what happens is that often when a child is diagnosed, the doctors then trace the family tree back and start testing people. That's when you find the 30 year old uncle who's fit as a fiddle, never shown symptoms of disease...but his genetic screening says he has CF.
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<br />There's not an established agreement on what to do in those cases. Do you start the healthy adult on the aggressive protocal under the assumption that at SOME point they will progress. Or, do you watch them, study them and try to figure out why they have a known mutation but appear to not have a clinical presentation of the disease they should have.
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<br />So, some CF centers don't even deal with the diagnosis of atypical. Others do. But, the term is definite something different than the mild/moderate/severe classification.
 

flatfordl

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My daughter has the most common mutations (ddf508), but no respiratory symptoms yet (3.5 years since dx), she does have pretty common digestive symptoms for cf. Her sweat chloride level was well above the 100's (cant remember exactly). So I guess she is neither mild or atypical.

So I guess the conclusion is she has Cf with no respiratory symptoms yet to be seen.

I have enjoyed all of your responses and learned a lot thank you. This just goes to show what I already knew about cf still stands...every case is different and you just have to hope for the best and plan for the worst.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 

flatfordl

New member
My daughter has the most common mutations (ddf508), but no respiratory symptoms yet (3.5 years since dx), she does have pretty common digestive symptoms for cf. Her sweat chloride level was well above the 100's (cant remember exactly). So I guess she is neither mild or atypical.

So I guess the conclusion is she has Cf with no respiratory symptoms yet to be seen.

I have enjoyed all of your responses and learned a lot thank you. This just goes to show what I already knew about cf still stands...every case is different and you just have to hope for the best and plan for the worst.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 

flatfordl

New member
My daughter has the most common mutations (ddf508), but no respiratory symptoms yet (3.5 years since dx), she does have pretty common digestive symptoms for cf. Her sweat chloride level was well above the 100's (cant remember exactly). So I guess she is neither mild or atypical.

So I guess the conclusion is she has Cf with no respiratory symptoms yet to be seen.

I have enjoyed all of your responses and learned a lot thank you. This just goes to show what I already knew about cf still stands...every case is different and you just have to hope for the best and plan for the worst.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 

flatfordl

New member
My daughter has the most common mutations (ddf508), but no respiratory symptoms yet (3.5 years since dx), she does have pretty common digestive symptoms for cf. Her sweat chloride level was well above the 100's (cant remember exactly). So I guess she is neither mild or atypical.

So I guess the conclusion is she has Cf with no respiratory symptoms yet to be seen.

I have enjoyed all of your responses and learned a lot thank you. This just goes to show what I already knew about cf still stands...every case is different and you just have to hope for the best and plan for the worst.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 

flatfordl

New member
My daughter has the most common mutations (ddf508), but no respiratory symptoms yet (3.5 years since dx), she does have pretty common digestive symptoms for cf. Her sweat chloride level was well above the 100's (cant remember exactly). So I guess she is neither mild or atypical.
<br />
<br />So I guess the conclusion is she has Cf with no respiratory symptoms yet to be seen.
<br />
<br />I have enjoyed all of your responses and learned a lot thank you. This just goes to show what I already knew about cf still stands...every case is different and you just have to hope for the best and plan for the worst.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
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Buckeye

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Heather - I have also been told that the sweat test number has absolutley nothing at all to do with severity.Testify-To-Love - We've been to two accredited CF centers and both give my son the CF diagnosis, but I'd be willing to go to a third if it would mean he didn't really have it <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">.
 

Buckeye

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Heather - I have also been told that the sweat test number has absolutley nothing at all to do with severity.Testify-To-Love - We've been to two accredited CF centers and both give my son the CF diagnosis, but I'd be willing to go to a third if it would mean he didn't really have it <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">.
 

Buckeye

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Heather - I have also been told that the sweat test number has absolutley nothing at all to do with severity.Testify-To-Love - We've been to two accredited CF centers and both give my son the CF diagnosis, but I'd be willing to go to a third if it would mean he didn't really have it <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">.
 

Buckeye

New member
Heather - I have also been told that the sweat test number has absolutley nothing at all to do with severity.Testify-To-Love - We've been to two accredited CF centers and both give my son the CF diagnosis, but I'd be willing to go to a third if it would mean he didn't really have it <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">.
 

Buckeye

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Heather - I have also been told that the sweat test number has absolutley nothing at all to do with severity.<p>Testify-To-Love - We've been to two accredited CF centers and both give my son the CF diagnosis, but I'd be willing to go to a third if it would mean he didn't really have it <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">.
 
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