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OT but need to vent and some advice
- Thread starter julie
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Don't waste the time or the energy on reporting her to CPS. Might open up a whole can of worms. As far as going to court. Just explain the facts. Her dog came after you, leashes slipped from your hands.. When it's happened to me, I've always stopped in my tracks, gotten my dog to sit or gotten him behind me and have yelled to the owner to please call off their dog.
In the future just make sure your dogs are on leashes when you go by her house. Bottom line, despite the circumstances, you and she are both responsible for having your animals under control. And even if they were just playing, with dogs, you just never know -- they can get into that pack mentality, dominance issues...
I always kept my dog on a leash and years ago out at the lakes a lab came running out of the woods and pounced on my dog. Bit him in the face, me in the leg. The whole time the owner was saying "he's a nice dog. He just wants to play". I now carry pepper spray with me on walks. Never had to use it, but have come close.
As far as the spike collars, we used one in obedience classes, just for learning and ALWAYS, always with a light touch. Don't need to yank on them.
In the future just make sure your dogs are on leashes when you go by her house. Bottom line, despite the circumstances, you and she are both responsible for having your animals under control. And even if they were just playing, with dogs, you just never know -- they can get into that pack mentality, dominance issues...
I always kept my dog on a leash and years ago out at the lakes a lab came running out of the woods and pounced on my dog. Bit him in the face, me in the leg. The whole time the owner was saying "he's a nice dog. He just wants to play". I now carry pepper spray with me on walks. Never had to use it, but have come close.
As far as the spike collars, we used one in obedience classes, just for learning and ALWAYS, always with a light touch. Don't need to yank on them.
Don't waste the time or the energy on reporting her to CPS. Might open up a whole can of worms. As far as going to court. Just explain the facts. Her dog came after you, leashes slipped from your hands.. When it's happened to me, I've always stopped in my tracks, gotten my dog to sit or gotten him behind me and have yelled to the owner to please call off their dog.
In the future just make sure your dogs are on leashes when you go by her house. Bottom line, despite the circumstances, you and she are both responsible for having your animals under control. And even if they were just playing, with dogs, you just never know -- they can get into that pack mentality, dominance issues...
I always kept my dog on a leash and years ago out at the lakes a lab came running out of the woods and pounced on my dog. Bit him in the face, me in the leg. The whole time the owner was saying "he's a nice dog. He just wants to play". I now carry pepper spray with me on walks. Never had to use it, but have come close.
As far as the spike collars, we used one in obedience classes, just for learning and ALWAYS, always with a light touch. Don't need to yank on them.
In the future just make sure your dogs are on leashes when you go by her house. Bottom line, despite the circumstances, you and she are both responsible for having your animals under control. And even if they were just playing, with dogs, you just never know -- they can get into that pack mentality, dominance issues...
I always kept my dog on a leash and years ago out at the lakes a lab came running out of the woods and pounced on my dog. Bit him in the face, me in the leg. The whole time the owner was saying "he's a nice dog. He just wants to play". I now carry pepper spray with me on walks. Never had to use it, but have come close.
As far as the spike collars, we used one in obedience classes, just for learning and ALWAYS, always with a light touch. Don't need to yank on them.
Don't waste the time or the energy on reporting her to CPS. Might open up a whole can of worms. As far as going to court. Just explain the facts. Her dog came after you, leashes slipped from your hands.. When it's happened to me, I've always stopped in my tracks, gotten my dog to sit or gotten him behind me and have yelled to the owner to please call off their dog.
In the future just make sure your dogs are on leashes when you go by her house. Bottom line, despite the circumstances, you and she are both responsible for having your animals under control. And even if they were just playing, with dogs, you just never know -- they can get into that pack mentality, dominance issues...
I always kept my dog on a leash and years ago out at the lakes a lab came running out of the woods and pounced on my dog. Bit him in the face, me in the leg. The whole time the owner was saying "he's a nice dog. He just wants to play". I now carry pepper spray with me on walks. Never had to use it, but have come close.
As far as the spike collars, we used one in obedience classes, just for learning and ALWAYS, always with a light touch. Don't need to yank on them.
In the future just make sure your dogs are on leashes when you go by her house. Bottom line, despite the circumstances, you and she are both responsible for having your animals under control. And even if they were just playing, with dogs, you just never know -- they can get into that pack mentality, dominance issues...
I always kept my dog on a leash and years ago out at the lakes a lab came running out of the woods and pounced on my dog. Bit him in the face, me in the leg. The whole time the owner was saying "he's a nice dog. He just wants to play". I now carry pepper spray with me on walks. Never had to use it, but have come close.
As far as the spike collars, we used one in obedience classes, just for learning and ALWAYS, always with a light touch. Don't need to yank on them.
Mockingbird
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Hopefully the judge will be biased in your favor; maybe he or she will hate little dogs or something (fingers crossed). As for the woman, don't repay evil for evil, otherwise you're no better than she is. Not that I need to say that, of course. I know you were just venting.
Maybe you can bring your dogs to court and have the judge meet them. Perhaps you can even subpoena the little dog as well and show how well your dogs get along. If nothing else, maybe you'll get some points for originality. I don't know if any of this is even possible; it kind of sounds like something that would only happen on TV, but perhaps its worth a shot. Good luck.
Maybe you can bring your dogs to court and have the judge meet them. Perhaps you can even subpoena the little dog as well and show how well your dogs get along. If nothing else, maybe you'll get some points for originality. I don't know if any of this is even possible; it kind of sounds like something that would only happen on TV, but perhaps its worth a shot. Good luck.
Mockingbird
New member
Hopefully the judge will be biased in your favor; maybe he or she will hate little dogs or something (fingers crossed). As for the woman, don't repay evil for evil, otherwise you're no better than she is. Not that I need to say that, of course. I know you were just venting.
Maybe you can bring your dogs to court and have the judge meet them. Perhaps you can even subpoena the little dog as well and show how well your dogs get along. If nothing else, maybe you'll get some points for originality. I don't know if any of this is even possible; it kind of sounds like something that would only happen on TV, but perhaps its worth a shot. Good luck.
Maybe you can bring your dogs to court and have the judge meet them. Perhaps you can even subpoena the little dog as well and show how well your dogs get along. If nothing else, maybe you'll get some points for originality. I don't know if any of this is even possible; it kind of sounds like something that would only happen on TV, but perhaps its worth a shot. Good luck.
Mockingbird
New member
Hopefully the judge will be biased in your favor; maybe he or she will hate little dogs or something (fingers crossed). As for the woman, don't repay evil for evil, otherwise you're no better than she is. Not that I need to say that, of course. I know you were just venting.
Maybe you can bring your dogs to court and have the judge meet them. Perhaps you can even subpoena the little dog as well and show how well your dogs get along. If nothing else, maybe you'll get some points for originality. I don't know if any of this is even possible; it kind of sounds like something that would only happen on TV, but perhaps its worth a shot. Good luck.
Maybe you can bring your dogs to court and have the judge meet them. Perhaps you can even subpoena the little dog as well and show how well your dogs get along. If nothing else, maybe you'll get some points for originality. I don't know if any of this is even possible; it kind of sounds like something that would only happen on TV, but perhaps its worth a shot. Good luck.
thefrogprincess
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Yes, you let go of the leash....but you can also prove that you had major surgery 3 weeks prior. I think it says it all in the statement that neither of your dogs touched anyone or the other dog. Your two big guys could have easily ripped the little guy apart.
thefrogprincess
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Yes, you let go of the leash....but you can also prove that you had major surgery 3 weeks prior. I think it says it all in the statement that neither of your dogs touched anyone or the other dog. Your two big guys could have easily ripped the little guy apart.
thefrogprincess
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Yes, you let go of the leash....but you can also prove that you had major surgery 3 weeks prior. I think it says it all in the statement that neither of your dogs touched anyone or the other dog. Your two big guys could have easily ripped the little guy apart.
I do agree, I was not in a position to walk the dogs at that point and I'm still not physically strong enought (as I was before I got pregnant) so I don't walk them anymore. I will take responsibility for that, so if that means the ticket... I guess it means the ticket. However, the ticket isn't for my dogs being on her property, it's for "dogs at large" which means dogs off a leash, so my opinion is that she should be getting one as well, if we are "going to go there".
However, her dog DID leave her property, and mine ran onto her property, so all in all, when it all boils down we are both at fault for NOT controling our animals. And mine didn't start on her property until her dog was already darting 1/2 way across her yard (not that legally it makes a difference, but rather that HER dog instigated the situation)
No she does NOT have a fence in her front yard. For those who were inquiring about this.
My dogs were on leashes, but I let go when I fell because I didn't want a medical emergency. I had a split second to make a decision, and I'd make the same decision if I had to do it again (actually, I wouldn't take the dogs with me if I had to do it again, but if I had to change that one part of let go or be drug around the yard, I'd let to- again)
And, I'm not a sue happy person, all these malicious lawsuits make me sick. However, I can't help but think (and I hope you don't judge me for this!) that if I did hang onto the leash and my dogs drug me, behind her dog who started the entire thing (I know, that sounds childish-sorry) and my scar ripped open and my guts fell out and an ambulance was called, how much liability she would have in the matter. YES, it would have occured on her property. But it would have occured with her dog who was off his/her leash first, and her dog DID leave her property.... so I think I did what was best for all of us in the situation by letting go because believe me, if that scar ripped open, she would be in a suit with me.
how do I respectfully touch on this "opinion" in court????
The officer mentioned her dog had been previously attacked by other big dogs in the neighborhood, which leads me to believe her dog has been a nuisance before and she has been 'out of control' of her dog previously, which might help my defense.
I'll investigate the information of the law not being publically published... that might be the way to go!
I wasn't really serious about the CPS thing, I mean, it was a thought because I'm so freaking pissed at this nutso, but It woudn't be worth my time or energy and it would clearly be retaliatory. I will however use the "she left her child on the porch, how scared could she have been???" defense in court.
Thanks to everyone for taking the time to respond, I appreciate the different opinions and insight.
However, her dog DID leave her property, and mine ran onto her property, so all in all, when it all boils down we are both at fault for NOT controling our animals. And mine didn't start on her property until her dog was already darting 1/2 way across her yard (not that legally it makes a difference, but rather that HER dog instigated the situation)
No she does NOT have a fence in her front yard. For those who were inquiring about this.
My dogs were on leashes, but I let go when I fell because I didn't want a medical emergency. I had a split second to make a decision, and I'd make the same decision if I had to do it again (actually, I wouldn't take the dogs with me if I had to do it again, but if I had to change that one part of let go or be drug around the yard, I'd let to- again)
And, I'm not a sue happy person, all these malicious lawsuits make me sick. However, I can't help but think (and I hope you don't judge me for this!) that if I did hang onto the leash and my dogs drug me, behind her dog who started the entire thing (I know, that sounds childish-sorry) and my scar ripped open and my guts fell out and an ambulance was called, how much liability she would have in the matter. YES, it would have occured on her property. But it would have occured with her dog who was off his/her leash first, and her dog DID leave her property.... so I think I did what was best for all of us in the situation by letting go because believe me, if that scar ripped open, she would be in a suit with me.
how do I respectfully touch on this "opinion" in court????
The officer mentioned her dog had been previously attacked by other big dogs in the neighborhood, which leads me to believe her dog has been a nuisance before and she has been 'out of control' of her dog previously, which might help my defense.
I'll investigate the information of the law not being publically published... that might be the way to go!
I wasn't really serious about the CPS thing, I mean, it was a thought because I'm so freaking pissed at this nutso, but It woudn't be worth my time or energy and it would clearly be retaliatory. I will however use the "she left her child on the porch, how scared could she have been???" defense in court.
Thanks to everyone for taking the time to respond, I appreciate the different opinions and insight.
I do agree, I was not in a position to walk the dogs at that point and I'm still not physically strong enought (as I was before I got pregnant) so I don't walk them anymore. I will take responsibility for that, so if that means the ticket... I guess it means the ticket. However, the ticket isn't for my dogs being on her property, it's for "dogs at large" which means dogs off a leash, so my opinion is that she should be getting one as well, if we are "going to go there".
However, her dog DID leave her property, and mine ran onto her property, so all in all, when it all boils down we are both at fault for NOT controling our animals. And mine didn't start on her property until her dog was already darting 1/2 way across her yard (not that legally it makes a difference, but rather that HER dog instigated the situation)
No she does NOT have a fence in her front yard. For those who were inquiring about this.
My dogs were on leashes, but I let go when I fell because I didn't want a medical emergency. I had a split second to make a decision, and I'd make the same decision if I had to do it again (actually, I wouldn't take the dogs with me if I had to do it again, but if I had to change that one part of let go or be drug around the yard, I'd let to- again)
And, I'm not a sue happy person, all these malicious lawsuits make me sick. However, I can't help but think (and I hope you don't judge me for this!) that if I did hang onto the leash and my dogs drug me, behind her dog who started the entire thing (I know, that sounds childish-sorry) and my scar ripped open and my guts fell out and an ambulance was called, how much liability she would have in the matter. YES, it would have occured on her property. But it would have occured with her dog who was off his/her leash first, and her dog DID leave her property.... so I think I did what was best for all of us in the situation by letting go because believe me, if that scar ripped open, she would be in a suit with me.
how do I respectfully touch on this "opinion" in court????
The officer mentioned her dog had been previously attacked by other big dogs in the neighborhood, which leads me to believe her dog has been a nuisance before and she has been 'out of control' of her dog previously, which might help my defense.
I'll investigate the information of the law not being publically published... that might be the way to go!
I wasn't really serious about the CPS thing, I mean, it was a thought because I'm so freaking pissed at this nutso, but It woudn't be worth my time or energy and it would clearly be retaliatory. I will however use the "she left her child on the porch, how scared could she have been???" defense in court.
Thanks to everyone for taking the time to respond, I appreciate the different opinions and insight.
However, her dog DID leave her property, and mine ran onto her property, so all in all, when it all boils down we are both at fault for NOT controling our animals. And mine didn't start on her property until her dog was already darting 1/2 way across her yard (not that legally it makes a difference, but rather that HER dog instigated the situation)
No she does NOT have a fence in her front yard. For those who were inquiring about this.
My dogs were on leashes, but I let go when I fell because I didn't want a medical emergency. I had a split second to make a decision, and I'd make the same decision if I had to do it again (actually, I wouldn't take the dogs with me if I had to do it again, but if I had to change that one part of let go or be drug around the yard, I'd let to- again)
And, I'm not a sue happy person, all these malicious lawsuits make me sick. However, I can't help but think (and I hope you don't judge me for this!) that if I did hang onto the leash and my dogs drug me, behind her dog who started the entire thing (I know, that sounds childish-sorry) and my scar ripped open and my guts fell out and an ambulance was called, how much liability she would have in the matter. YES, it would have occured on her property. But it would have occured with her dog who was off his/her leash first, and her dog DID leave her property.... so I think I did what was best for all of us in the situation by letting go because believe me, if that scar ripped open, she would be in a suit with me.
how do I respectfully touch on this "opinion" in court????
The officer mentioned her dog had been previously attacked by other big dogs in the neighborhood, which leads me to believe her dog has been a nuisance before and she has been 'out of control' of her dog previously, which might help my defense.
I'll investigate the information of the law not being publically published... that might be the way to go!
I wasn't really serious about the CPS thing, I mean, it was a thought because I'm so freaking pissed at this nutso, but It woudn't be worth my time or energy and it would clearly be retaliatory. I will however use the "she left her child on the porch, how scared could she have been???" defense in court.
Thanks to everyone for taking the time to respond, I appreciate the different opinions and insight.
I do agree, I was not in a position to walk the dogs at that point and I'm still not physically strong enought (as I was before I got pregnant) so I don't walk them anymore. I will take responsibility for that, so if that means the ticket... I guess it means the ticket. However, the ticket isn't for my dogs being on her property, it's for "dogs at large" which means dogs off a leash, so my opinion is that she should be getting one as well, if we are "going to go there".
However, her dog DID leave her property, and mine ran onto her property, so all in all, when it all boils down we are both at fault for NOT controling our animals. And mine didn't start on her property until her dog was already darting 1/2 way across her yard (not that legally it makes a difference, but rather that HER dog instigated the situation)
No she does NOT have a fence in her front yard. For those who were inquiring about this.
My dogs were on leashes, but I let go when I fell because I didn't want a medical emergency. I had a split second to make a decision, and I'd make the same decision if I had to do it again (actually, I wouldn't take the dogs with me if I had to do it again, but if I had to change that one part of let go or be drug around the yard, I'd let to- again)
And, I'm not a sue happy person, all these malicious lawsuits make me sick. However, I can't help but think (and I hope you don't judge me for this!) that if I did hang onto the leash and my dogs drug me, behind her dog who started the entire thing (I know, that sounds childish-sorry) and my scar ripped open and my guts fell out and an ambulance was called, how much liability she would have in the matter. YES, it would have occured on her property. But it would have occured with her dog who was off his/her leash first, and her dog DID leave her property.... so I think I did what was best for all of us in the situation by letting go because believe me, if that scar ripped open, she would be in a suit with me.
how do I respectfully touch on this "opinion" in court????
The officer mentioned her dog had been previously attacked by other big dogs in the neighborhood, which leads me to believe her dog has been a nuisance before and she has been 'out of control' of her dog previously, which might help my defense.
I'll investigate the information of the law not being publically published... that might be the way to go!
I wasn't really serious about the CPS thing, I mean, it was a thought because I'm so freaking pissed at this nutso, but It woudn't be worth my time or energy and it would clearly be retaliatory. I will however use the "she left her child on the porch, how scared could she have been???" defense in court.
Thanks to everyone for taking the time to respond, I appreciate the different opinions and insight.
However, her dog DID leave her property, and mine ran onto her property, so all in all, when it all boils down we are both at fault for NOT controling our animals. And mine didn't start on her property until her dog was already darting 1/2 way across her yard (not that legally it makes a difference, but rather that HER dog instigated the situation)
No she does NOT have a fence in her front yard. For those who were inquiring about this.
My dogs were on leashes, but I let go when I fell because I didn't want a medical emergency. I had a split second to make a decision, and I'd make the same decision if I had to do it again (actually, I wouldn't take the dogs with me if I had to do it again, but if I had to change that one part of let go or be drug around the yard, I'd let to- again)
And, I'm not a sue happy person, all these malicious lawsuits make me sick. However, I can't help but think (and I hope you don't judge me for this!) that if I did hang onto the leash and my dogs drug me, behind her dog who started the entire thing (I know, that sounds childish-sorry) and my scar ripped open and my guts fell out and an ambulance was called, how much liability she would have in the matter. YES, it would have occured on her property. But it would have occured with her dog who was off his/her leash first, and her dog DID leave her property.... so I think I did what was best for all of us in the situation by letting go because believe me, if that scar ripped open, she would be in a suit with me.
how do I respectfully touch on this "opinion" in court????
The officer mentioned her dog had been previously attacked by other big dogs in the neighborhood, which leads me to believe her dog has been a nuisance before and she has been 'out of control' of her dog previously, which might help my defense.
I'll investigate the information of the law not being publically published... that might be the way to go!
I wasn't really serious about the CPS thing, I mean, it was a thought because I'm so freaking pissed at this nutso, but It woudn't be worth my time or energy and it would clearly be retaliatory. I will however use the "she left her child on the porch, how scared could she have been???" defense in court.
Thanks to everyone for taking the time to respond, I appreciate the different opinions and insight.
Scarlett81
New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>
I will however use the "she left her child on the porch, how scared could she have been???" defense in court.
.</end quote></div>
YES-I would definately use that. Thats a good point-if you saw her leave the kid there and your mom did too, what mother would just leave their kid alone if they were really truly worried about a vicious rotweiller????
I will however use the "she left her child on the porch, how scared could she have been???" defense in court.
.</end quote></div>
YES-I would definately use that. Thats a good point-if you saw her leave the kid there and your mom did too, what mother would just leave their kid alone if they were really truly worried about a vicious rotweiller????
Scarlett81
New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>
I will however use the "she left her child on the porch, how scared could she have been???" defense in court.
.</end quote></div>
YES-I would definately use that. Thats a good point-if you saw her leave the kid there and your mom did too, what mother would just leave their kid alone if they were really truly worried about a vicious rotweiller????
I will however use the "she left her child on the porch, how scared could she have been???" defense in court.
.</end quote></div>
YES-I would definately use that. Thats a good point-if you saw her leave the kid there and your mom did too, what mother would just leave their kid alone if they were really truly worried about a vicious rotweiller????
Scarlett81
New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>
I will however use the "she left her child on the porch, how scared could she have been???" defense in court.
.</end quote></div>
YES-I would definately use that. Thats a good point-if you saw her leave the kid there and your mom did too, what mother would just leave their kid alone if they were really truly worried about a vicious rotweiller????
I will however use the "she left her child on the porch, how scared could she have been???" defense in court.
.</end quote></div>
YES-I would definately use that. Thats a good point-if you saw her leave the kid there and your mom did too, what mother would just leave their kid alone if they were really truly worried about a vicious rotweiller????