should gordon brown step down because of fraser?

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Scarlett81

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Its nobody's business to suggest someone quit their job b/c of a situation like this-only the family knows what is best. Every parent has to work-esp to pay for health insurance and other family related expenses.

I can just picture this little boy, years from now rummaging through a box of old newspaper clippings at 10 yrs old and seeing this one and thinking-so I'm the reason Daddy lost his job??? Stupid greedy reporters.
 
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sue35

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I don't think that he should step down either. I also don't mind being called handicapped either. I have a handicapped sign anyway. What I don't like it CF being compared with Down's Syndrome. Not only does it really not make a lot of sense, they are such different diseases and I think she made it seem like almost the same.
 
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sue35

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I don't think that he should step down either. I also don't mind being called handicapped either. I have a handicapped sign anyway. What I don't like it CF being compared with Down's Syndrome. Not only does it really not make a lot of sense, they are such different diseases and I think she made it seem like almost the same.
 
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sue35

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I don't think that he should step down either. I also don't mind being called handicapped either. I have a handicapped sign anyway. What I don't like it CF being compared with Down's Syndrome. Not only does it really not make a lot of sense, they are such different diseases and I think she made it seem like almost the same.
 
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Shoshanna

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I don't believe that children born with CF are handicapped. They may have limited capabilities as their disease worsens, but I, for one, grew up perfectly fine and pretty healthy and could do everything my friends did...sometimes even better (I even beat the boys running in the 50 yard dash in elementary school). I think that word is being misused and I agree with those who find it offensive. The person who wrote this article sounds misinformed. Also, I do think England views CF a little different then we do here because of socialized medicine. My brother, who has CF, studied abroad in college in London and felt like his care was very shortsided and that caregivers viewed his disease as more hopeless. He didn't feel he had as much hope or as many options as he does here in the U.S. I don't know. Just my thought. Thought the article was unfair/underhanded and a political jab at a private matter.
 
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Shoshanna

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I don't believe that children born with CF are handicapped. They may have limited capabilities as their disease worsens, but I, for one, grew up perfectly fine and pretty healthy and could do everything my friends did...sometimes even better (I even beat the boys running in the 50 yard dash in elementary school). I think that word is being misused and I agree with those who find it offensive. The person who wrote this article sounds misinformed. Also, I do think England views CF a little different then we do here because of socialized medicine. My brother, who has CF, studied abroad in college in London and felt like his care was very shortsided and that caregivers viewed his disease as more hopeless. He didn't feel he had as much hope or as many options as he does here in the U.S. I don't know. Just my thought. Thought the article was unfair/underhanded and a political jab at a private matter.
 
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Shoshanna

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I don't believe that children born with CF are handicapped. They may have limited capabilities as their disease worsens, but I, for one, grew up perfectly fine and pretty healthy and could do everything my friends did...sometimes even better (I even beat the boys running in the 50 yard dash in elementary school). I think that word is being misused and I agree with those who find it offensive. The person who wrote this article sounds misinformed. Also, I do think England views CF a little different then we do here because of socialized medicine. My brother, who has CF, studied abroad in college in London and felt like his care was very shortsided and that caregivers viewed his disease as more hopeless. He didn't feel he had as much hope or as many options as he does here in the U.S. I don't know. Just my thought. Thought the article was unfair/underhanded and a political jab at a private matter.
 
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onlyoneloveinmylife

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i don't think he should step down, they still need an income (you would think).
as far as the reporter saying the child is handicapped, don't mean to offend anyone but people w/ CF are handicapped. having limited capabilities means your are handicapped. accepting one's fate is required if one wants to get anywhere in life.
 
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onlyoneloveinmylife

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i don't think he should step down, they still need an income (you would think).
as far as the reporter saying the child is handicapped, don't mean to offend anyone but people w/ CF are handicapped. having limited capabilities means your are handicapped. accepting one's fate is required if one wants to get anywhere in life.
 
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onlyoneloveinmylife

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i don't think he should step down, they still need an income (you would think).
as far as the reporter saying the child is handicapped, don't mean to offend anyone but people w/ CF are handicapped. having limited capabilities means your are handicapped. accepting one's fate is required if one wants to get anywhere in life.
 
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charl72

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I don't think he should quit his job either. I am a mother of a CFer, and I work part-time, if it wasn't for my job I would go in sane! Working keeps my mind focused and that I really benefit from. I adore my children, they are the most important thing in my life. People shouldn't be judged or criticised for working, it is up to the individual. I feel that I have a good balance with work and home. I reduced my hours when my daughter was diagnosed with CF, but I for one, didn't want to give up my job and I am sure when she is older will agree (I hope). Give the guy a break. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 
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charl72

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I don't think he should quit his job either. I am a mother of a CFer, and I work part-time, if it wasn't for my job I would go in sane! Working keeps my mind focused and that I really benefit from. I adore my children, they are the most important thing in my life. People shouldn't be judged or criticised for working, it is up to the individual. I feel that I have a good balance with work and home. I reduced my hours when my daughter was diagnosed with CF, but I for one, didn't want to give up my job and I am sure when she is older will agree (I hope). Give the guy a break. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 
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charl72

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I don't think he should quit his job either. I am a mother of a CFer, and I work part-time, if it wasn't for my job I would go in sane! Working keeps my mind focused and that I really benefit from. I adore my children, they are the most important thing in my life. People shouldn't be judged or criticised for working, it is up to the individual. I feel that I have a good balance with work and home. I reduced my hours when my daughter was diagnosed with CF, but I for one, didn't want to give up my job and I am sure when she is older will agree (I hope). Give the guy a break. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 
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Shoshanna

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For Tom/only one love of my life,

To me, personally, limited capabilities can refer to many things including intelligence, sophistication etc. It's not always about physical attributes and it doesn't always mean you are "handicapped". If I had spent the last 32 years viewing myself as handicapped I never would've accomplished all that I have. I went to an excellent college and an Ivy League grad school, studied abroad in a foreign country and worked hard for most of my 20's despite fatigue, hospitalizations etc. I never saw myself as a victim or as someone who wasn't like everyone else. Maybe that doesn't work for some people with CF and I respect that, but it worked for me and my family. If I accepted my fate in order to get anywhere in life (as you put it), I'd be sitting on the couch preparing to die without having tried the many wonderful things that I did. I'm so glad I never saw myself as handicapped or as any different than my friends. It was the best way for me to be brought up and I'm so grateful to my parents. Please judge your own situation, but don't make sweeping generalizations for others. Thanks.
 
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Shoshanna

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For Tom/only one love of my life,

To me, personally, limited capabilities can refer to many things including intelligence, sophistication etc. It's not always about physical attributes and it doesn't always mean you are "handicapped". If I had spent the last 32 years viewing myself as handicapped I never would've accomplished all that I have. I went to an excellent college and an Ivy League grad school, studied abroad in a foreign country and worked hard for most of my 20's despite fatigue, hospitalizations etc. I never saw myself as a victim or as someone who wasn't like everyone else. Maybe that doesn't work for some people with CF and I respect that, but it worked for me and my family. If I accepted my fate in order to get anywhere in life (as you put it), I'd be sitting on the couch preparing to die without having tried the many wonderful things that I did. I'm so glad I never saw myself as handicapped or as any different than my friends. It was the best way for me to be brought up and I'm so grateful to my parents. Please judge your own situation, but don't make sweeping generalizations for others. Thanks.
 
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Shoshanna

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For Tom/only one love of my life,

To me, personally, limited capabilities can refer to many things including intelligence, sophistication etc. It's not always about physical attributes and it doesn't always mean you are "handicapped". If I had spent the last 32 years viewing myself as handicapped I never would've accomplished all that I have. I went to an excellent college and an Ivy League grad school, studied abroad in a foreign country and worked hard for most of my 20's despite fatigue, hospitalizations etc. I never saw myself as a victim or as someone who wasn't like everyone else. Maybe that doesn't work for some people with CF and I respect that, but it worked for me and my family. If I accepted my fate in order to get anywhere in life (as you put it), I'd be sitting on the couch preparing to die without having tried the many wonderful things that I did. I'm so glad I never saw myself as handicapped or as any different than my friends. It was the best way for me to be brought up and I'm so grateful to my parents. Please judge your own situation, but don't make sweeping generalizations for others. Thanks.
 
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onlyoneloveinmylife

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One can place (or not place) a title on anything they choose. Having said that. That doesn't mean that you can still do whatever you wish. Just because you don't "Like" or "Except" a classification, Doesn't change reality....
So. regardless of my teminology, I'll wake up tomorrow the same person I am today. As will You!....
 
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