should gordon brown step down because of fraser?

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onlyoneloveinmylife

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One can place (or not place) a title on anything they choose. Having said that. That doesn't mean that you can still do whatever you wish. Just because you don't "Like" or "Except" a classification, Doesn't change reality....
So. regardless of my teminology, I'll wake up tomorrow the same person I am today. As will You!....
 
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onlyoneloveinmylife

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One can place (or not place) a title on anything they choose. Having said that. That doesn't mean that you can still do whatever you wish. Just because you don't "Like" or "Except" a classification, Doesn't change reality....
So. regardless of my teminology, I'll wake up tomorrow the same person I am today. As will You!....
 
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sue35

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"If I had spent the last 32 years viewing myself as handicapped I never would've accomplished all that I have. I went to an excellent college and an Ivy League grad school, studied abroad in a foreign country and worked hard for most of my 20's despite fatigue, hospitalizations etc. I never saw myself as a victim or as someone who wasn't like everyone else. "

Why do you see the word "handicapped" so negative? I think there are many handicapped people out there that can do all the same things that you ahve done and do not see themselves as a victim.

I went to an excellent college, got my masters, and am working my butt off as a teacher. I am also handicapped. Nope, don't think of myself as a victim. Being handicapped doesn't have to have such a negative conotation.
 
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sue35

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"If I had spent the last 32 years viewing myself as handicapped I never would've accomplished all that I have. I went to an excellent college and an Ivy League grad school, studied abroad in a foreign country and worked hard for most of my 20's despite fatigue, hospitalizations etc. I never saw myself as a victim or as someone who wasn't like everyone else. "

Why do you see the word "handicapped" so negative? I think there are many handicapped people out there that can do all the same things that you ahve done and do not see themselves as a victim.

I went to an excellent college, got my masters, and am working my butt off as a teacher. I am also handicapped. Nope, don't think of myself as a victim. Being handicapped doesn't have to have such a negative conotation.
 
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sue35

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"If I had spent the last 32 years viewing myself as handicapped I never would've accomplished all that I have. I went to an excellent college and an Ivy League grad school, studied abroad in a foreign country and worked hard for most of my 20's despite fatigue, hospitalizations etc. I never saw myself as a victim or as someone who wasn't like everyone else. "

Why do you see the word "handicapped" so negative? I think there are many handicapped people out there that can do all the same things that you ahve done and do not see themselves as a victim.

I went to an excellent college, got my masters, and am working my butt off as a teacher. I am also handicapped. Nope, don't think of myself as a victim. Being handicapped doesn't have to have such a negative conotation.
 
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onlyoneloveinmylife

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<b>sue35</b>, thank you, thats the point i was trying to make. being handicapped is not a negetive thing. it's not the end of the world. and admitting that you are handicapped does not mean you just sit on the couch and wait to die.

i view my self as handicapped, but that doesn't stop me from doing the things that i love to do.
 
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onlyoneloveinmylife

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<b>sue35</b>, thank you, thats the point i was trying to make. being handicapped is not a negetive thing. it's not the end of the world. and admitting that you are handicapped does not mean you just sit on the couch and wait to die.

i view my self as handicapped, but that doesn't stop me from doing the things that i love to do.
 
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onlyoneloveinmylife

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<b>sue35</b>, thank you, thats the point i was trying to make. being handicapped is not a negetive thing. it's not the end of the world. and admitting that you are handicapped does not mean you just sit on the couch and wait to die.

i view my self as handicapped, but that doesn't stop me from doing the things that i love to do.
 
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Bumblebee

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Shoshanna
Just to say i have been treated in 4 separate CF centers in the UK and they have never given me a feeling of hopelessness or put that forward as an attitude.....the extact opposite. I'm sorry your brother had a bad experience but i think that's all it was, specific to the clinic he went to perhaps. I donm't think it has anything to do with socialised medicine either.
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Bumblebee

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Shoshanna
Just to say i have been treated in 4 separate CF centers in the UK and they have never given me a feeling of hopelessness or put that forward as an attitude.....the extact opposite. I'm sorry your brother had a bad experience but i think that's all it was, specific to the clinic he went to perhaps. I donm't think it has anything to do with socialised medicine either.
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Bumblebee

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Shoshanna
Just to say i have been treated in 4 separate CF centers in the UK and they have never given me a feeling of hopelessness or put that forward as an attitude.....the extact opposite. I'm sorry your brother had a bad experience but i think that's all it was, specific to the clinic he went to perhaps. I donm't think it has anything to do with socialised medicine either.
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dyza

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what a stupid 'hack' journo', do you think she researched her story before she wrote it, she can go 'drown in a vat of piss'.
 
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dyza

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what a stupid 'hack' journo', do you think she researched her story before she wrote it, she can go 'drown in a vat of piss'.
 
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dyza

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what a stupid 'hack' journo', do you think she researched her story before she wrote it, she can go 'drown in a vat of piss'.
 
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Shoshanna

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Bumblebee,
I'm sorry for the remark I made about socialized medicine. I don't know enough about it in terms of CF and I was only basing it on my brother's experience, as you said. So, sorry for that.

As for Tom and Sue,

I just don't like the term handicapped. It doesn't feel comfortable for me. It's my personal experience/choice, that's all. If you guys see yourselves that way and it works for you, then that's great, but please don't harp on me (this is more for Tom than Sue) for not accepting it.

Oh yeah, and Tom, it's "accepting", not "Excepting" as you put it. And it's "terminology" with an "R". Your argument loses credibility when you can't even spell. Now leave me alone, please. Thank you.
 
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Shoshanna

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Bumblebee,
I'm sorry for the remark I made about socialized medicine. I don't know enough about it in terms of CF and I was only basing it on my brother's experience, as you said. So, sorry for that.

As for Tom and Sue,

I just don't like the term handicapped. It doesn't feel comfortable for me. It's my personal experience/choice, that's all. If you guys see yourselves that way and it works for you, then that's great, but please don't harp on me (this is more for Tom than Sue) for not accepting it.

Oh yeah, and Tom, it's "accepting", not "Excepting" as you put it. And it's "terminology" with an "R". Your argument loses credibility when you can't even spell. Now leave me alone, please. Thank you.
 
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Shoshanna

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Bumblebee,
I'm sorry for the remark I made about socialized medicine. I don't know enough about it in terms of CF and I was only basing it on my brother's experience, as you said. So, sorry for that.

As for Tom and Sue,

I just don't like the term handicapped. It doesn't feel comfortable for me. It's my personal experience/choice, that's all. If you guys see yourselves that way and it works for you, then that's great, but please don't harp on me (this is more for Tom than Sue) for not accepting it.

Oh yeah, and Tom, it's "accepting", not "Excepting" as you put it. And it's "terminology" with an "R". Your argument loses credibility when you can't even spell. Now leave me alone, please. Thank you.
 
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onlyoneloveinmylife

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all you can come up with is "Your argument loses credibility when you can't even spell"
that tells me that you have nothing. that's like saying you're afraid of the dark, that's something a kid would say. as far as you not accepting it. that's no skin off my nose, just next time you disagree with someone don't resort to childish statements like "you can't spell". that doesn't help your cause at all.
 
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onlyoneloveinmylife

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all you can come up with is "Your argument loses credibility when you can't even spell"
that tells me that you have nothing. that's like saying you're afraid of the dark, that's something a kid would say. as far as you not accepting it. that's no skin off my nose, just next time you disagree with someone don't resort to childish statements like "you can't spell". that doesn't help your cause at all.
 
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onlyoneloveinmylife

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all you can come up with is "Your argument loses credibility when you can't even spell"
that tells me that you have nothing. that's like saying you're afraid of the dark, that's something a kid would say. as far as you not accepting it. that's no skin off my nose, just next time you disagree with someone don't resort to childish statements like "you can't spell". that doesn't help your cause at all.
 
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