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HBanana

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The new Michael Moore film SIKO is about how crappy our health care system in america really is. I recomend it to everyone, especially us. Now that i'm turning 18, and i'll be going to college, universal health care is becomming more and more important to me, and it should be for everyone else... If you want to sign the petetion for universal health care, just google it, and you can find a local chapter.
 

HBanana

New member
The new Michael Moore film SIKO is about how crappy our health care system in america really is. I recomend it to everyone, especially us. Now that i'm turning 18, and i'll be going to college, universal health care is becomming more and more important to me, and it should be for everyone else... If you want to sign the petetion for universal health care, just google it, and you can find a local chapter.
 

HBanana

New member
The new Michael Moore film SIKO is about how crappy our health care system in america really is. I recomend it to everyone, especially us. Now that i'm turning 18, and i'll be going to college, universal health care is becomming more and more important to me, and it should be for everyone else... If you want to sign the petetion for universal health care, just google it, and you can find a local chapter.
 

HBanana

New member
The new Michael Moore film SIKO is about how crappy our health care system in america really is. I recomend it to everyone, especially us. Now that i'm turning 18, and i'll be going to college, universal health care is becomming more and more important to me, and it should be for everyone else... If you want to sign the petetion for universal health care, just google it, and you can find a local chapter.
 

HBanana

New member
The new Michael Moore film SIKO is about how crappy our health care system in america really is. I recomend it to everyone, especially us. Now that i'm turning 18, and i'll be going to college, universal health care is becomming more and more important to me, and it should be for everyone else... If you want to sign the petetion for universal health care, just google it, and you can find a local chapter.
 

HBanana

New member
The new Michael Moore film SIKO is about how crappy our health care system in america really is. I recomend it to everyone, especially us. Now that i'm turning 18, and i'll be going to college, universal health care is becomming more and more important to me, and it should be for everyone else... If you want to sign the petetion for universal health care, just google it, and you can find a local chapter.
 

NoExcuses

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"SIKO

no thanks.

i rather prefer the healthcare i have access to as opposed to what our European/Canadian/Australian CFer friends have to deal with.
 

NoExcuses

New member
"SIKO

no thanks.

i rather prefer the healthcare i have access to as opposed to what our European/Canadian/Australian CFer friends have to deal with.
 

NoExcuses

New member
"SIKO

no thanks.

i rather prefer the healthcare i have access to as opposed to what our European/Canadian/Australian CFer friends have to deal with.
 

NoExcuses

New member
"SIKO

no thanks.

i rather prefer the healthcare i have access to as opposed to what our European/Canadian/Australian CFer friends have to deal with.
 

NoExcuses

New member
"SIKO

no thanks.

i rather prefer the healthcare i have access to as opposed to what our European/Canadian/Australian CFer friends have to deal with.
 

NoExcuses

New member
"SIKO

no thanks.

i rather prefer the healthcare i have access to as opposed to what our European/Canadian/Australian CFer friends have to deal with.
 

Dawg

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"SIKO

I would like to hear from the people that have socialized medicine. What is your honest opinion of it. What are some pros and cons of it?
 

Dawg

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"SIKO

I would like to hear from the people that have socialized medicine. What is your honest opinion of it. What are some pros and cons of it?
 

Dawg

New member
"SIKO

I would like to hear from the people that have socialized medicine. What is your honest opinion of it. What are some pros and cons of it?
 

Dawg

New member
"SIKO

I would like to hear from the people that have socialized medicine. What is your honest opinion of it. What are some pros and cons of it?
 

Dawg

New member
"SIKO

I would like to hear from the people that have socialized medicine. What is your honest opinion of it. What are some pros and cons of it?
 

Dawg

New member
"SIKO

I would like to hear from the people that have socialized medicine. What is your honest opinion of it. What are some pros and cons of it?
 

Bumblebee

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"SIKO

hello

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i live in the UK so get care under the NHS. I can't fault it for my CF care. I have an excellent team who have a massive budget. I have no problems going into hospital and never have to worry about money (the most i've ever had to wait for a bed is 1 day because our 12 bed specialised ward - funded by the NHS - was full, incidently they're currently in plans to build a brand new larger ward with state of the art air systems etc) The team is always excellently staffed with consultants, doctors, dieticians, physiotheapists, social workers, psycologists, you know...everything you need. I can get any drug i want really, i take: creon 10 000 (brand name), TOBI (brand name), pulmozyme (brand name) and many other expensive drugs. I don't think anything is ever held back. the only problems i've ever had is with stupid pharmacists but not actual prescription of the drugs. I LOVE the fact i don't have to worry about money in terms of health care. I can't imagine worrying about that when sick...."can i afford the right drugs, will my insurance cover it, my copay is increasing" etc. I hear a lot of people on these boards working till they're rather unwell because they HAVE to, ultimately making them sicker. Not so here, as long as the DOC can sign the form and agrees you can't work you can get all manner of benefits. OH i've also had my eflow since dec 2005, when it just came out, i don't think anyone in america could say the same thing.



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yes standards of care can vary depending what clinic/center you go to, but as as i see it that happens in the states too, at least we don't have to pay for it. and it's easy to move centres/clinics should you want to.





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i would NEVER want to be under a private health care system like in America. Far too many posts on here i see about money issues and getting appropriate drugs. we just don't have that here. Okay, yes, we can't get the Vest very easily, unless willing to pay for it. But i doubt many would be as i don't think any studies have shown it to be more effective than other forms of physio (don't quote me on that though) It is being trialed here though so perhaps they're thinking about it. But i do my accapella and that works excellently for me.




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all that said i'm probably lucky in a sense to have CF, i get excellent care because of it, if you have to depend on GP's (general practicioners, non specislist, clincis in the community etc, prob like your primary care physicians), you can wait a while for an appointment (up to a week), unless your so urgent you need the ER etc. most pracitces do have emergency appointment slots though, so your not screwed.
oh and if your not happy with the NHS there are private hospitals run by insurance companies such as BUPA, that you can go to if you want to skip waiting lists.

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the pros, if you have CF of the NHS far out weigh any cons.




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xxxx
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Bumblebee

New member
"SIKO

hello

<br>
i live in the UK so get care under the NHS. I can't fault it for my CF care. I have an excellent team who have a massive budget. I have no problems going into hospital and never have to worry about money (the most i've ever had to wait for a bed is 1 day because our 12 bed specialised ward - funded by the NHS - was full, incidently they're currently in plans to build a brand new larger ward with state of the art air systems etc) The team is always excellently staffed with consultants, doctors, dieticians, physiotheapists, social workers, psycologists, you know...everything you need. I can get any drug i want really, i take: creon 10 000 (brand name), TOBI (brand name), pulmozyme (brand name) and many other expensive drugs. I don't think anything is ever held back. the only problems i've ever had is with stupid pharmacists but not actual prescription of the drugs. I LOVE the fact i don't have to worry about money in terms of health care. I can't imagine worrying about that when sick...."can i afford the right drugs, will my insurance cover it, my copay is increasing" etc. I hear a lot of people on these boards working till they're rather unwell because they HAVE to, ultimately making them sicker. Not so here, as long as the DOC can sign the form and agrees you can't work you can get all manner of benefits. OH i've also had my eflow since dec 2005, when it just came out, i don't think anyone in america could say the same thing.



<br>
<br>


yes standards of care can vary depending what clinic/center you go to, but as as i see it that happens in the states too, at least we don't have to pay for it. and it's easy to move centres/clinics should you want to.





<br>

i would NEVER want to be under a private health care system like in America. Far too many posts on here i see about money issues and getting appropriate drugs. we just don't have that here. Okay, yes, we can't get the Vest very easily, unless willing to pay for it. But i doubt many would be as i don't think any studies have shown it to be more effective than other forms of physio (don't quote me on that though) It is being trialed here though so perhaps they're thinking about it. But i do my accapella and that works excellently for me.




<br>
<br>


all that said i'm probably lucky in a sense to have CF, i get excellent care because of it, if you have to depend on GP's (general practicioners, non specislist, clincis in the community etc, prob like your primary care physicians), you can wait a while for an appointment (up to a week), unless your so urgent you need the ER etc. most pracitces do have emergency appointment slots though, so your not screwed.
oh and if your not happy with the NHS there are private hospitals run by insurance companies such as BUPA, that you can go to if you want to skip waiting lists.

<br>
<br>

the pros, if you have CF of the NHS far out weigh any cons.




<br>
<br>


xxxx
xxxx
 
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