SO ANGRY

[thefrogprincess]

Thank you JazzysMom!

What I said was taken totally out of context. I was just trying to get you too see the other side of things.

I am curious about one thing you said. You said that if you had been aware that she has HIV that you wouldn't have left but you would have been more catiuos. In what way? Would you have not let this woman play with your daughter or touch her? If so I don't think that is not much different then grabbing your daughter and running out the door.

 

[thefrogprincess]

Thank you JazzysMom!

What I said was taken totally out of context. I was just trying to get you too see the other side of things.

I am curious about one thing you said. You said that if you had been aware that she has HIV that you wouldn't have left but you would have been more catiuos. In what way? Would you have not let this woman play with your daughter or touch her? If so I don't think that is not much different then grabbing your daughter and running out the door.

 

[thefrogprincess]

Thank you JazzysMom!

What I said was taken totally out of context. I was just trying to get you too see the other side of things.

I am curious about one thing you said. You said that if you had been aware that she has HIV that you wouldn't have left but you would have been more catiuos. In what way? Would you have not let this woman play with your daughter or touch her? If so I don't think that is not much different then grabbing your daughter and running out the door.

 

[thefrogprincess]

Thank you JazzysMom!

What I said was taken totally out of context. I was just trying to get you too see the other side of things.

I am curious about one thing you said. You said that if you had been aware that she has HIV that you wouldn't have left but you would have been more catiuos. In what way? Would you have not let this woman play with your daughter or touch her? If so I don't think that is not much different then grabbing your daughter and running out the door.

 

[thefrogprincess]

Thank you JazzysMom!

What I said was taken totally out of context. I was just trying to get you too see the other side of things.

I am curious about one thing you said. You said that if you had been aware that she has HIV that you wouldn't have left but you would have been more catiuos. In what way? Would you have not let this woman play with your daughter or touch her? If so I don't think that is not much different then grabbing your daughter and running out the door.

 

[thefrogprincess]

Thank you JazzysMom!

What I said was taken totally out of context. I was just trying to get you too see the other side of things.

I am curious about one thing you said. You said that if you had been aware that she has HIV that you wouldn't have left but you would have been more catiuos. In what way? Would you have not let this woman play with your daughter or touch her? If so I don't think that is not much different then grabbing your daughter and running out the door.

 

[AnD]

Okay, I have gone back through and read again (to get a little perspective <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ) and I think the problem isn't that the lady had HIV- I think that the issue is that, apparently others (including the MIL) who knew that she had HIV (no outing issue), had no idea of whether or not the cfer had any risks to her health by being around her (and vice versa), and chose to not inform the child's parents, even though <i>others knew</i>.

She (MIL)probably thought that they wouldn't come if they knew.
And since the parents didn't yet know what the implications of a cfer being around an HIV patient were (and since it <i>can </i>involve actual communicable diseases, due to a compromised immune system), they would have been perfectly right in not going, until they talked to their child's doctor. Then, if he said it was okay, next time they could go.

But the MIL took that right away from them. She didn't let them make that choice- she did it for them. And since she doesn't grasp the seriousness of cf, this is dangerous if it is allowed to continue.

The MIL is undermining what little control they have over what germs their child is exposed to by her behavior, and I would be hopping mad, too, whether it was a cold or HIV, and it was my child.

 

[AnD]

Okay, I have gone back through and read again (to get a little perspective <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ) and I think the problem isn't that the lady had HIV- I think that the issue is that, apparently others (including the MIL) who knew that she had HIV (no outing issue), had no idea of whether or not the cfer had any risks to her health by being around her (and vice versa), and chose to not inform the child's parents, even though <i>others knew</i>.

She (MIL)probably thought that they wouldn't come if they knew.
And since the parents didn't yet know what the implications of a cfer being around an HIV patient were (and since it <i>can </i>involve actual communicable diseases, due to a compromised immune system), they would have been perfectly right in not going, until they talked to their child's doctor. Then, if he said it was okay, next time they could go.

But the MIL took that right away from them. She didn't let them make that choice- she did it for them. And since she doesn't grasp the seriousness of cf, this is dangerous if it is allowed to continue.

The MIL is undermining what little control they have over what germs their child is exposed to by her behavior, and I would be hopping mad, too, whether it was a cold or HIV, and it was my child.

 

[AnD]

Okay, I have gone back through and read again (to get a little perspective <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ) and I think the problem isn't that the lady had HIV- I think that the issue is that, apparently others (including the MIL) who knew that she had HIV (no outing issue), had no idea of whether or not the cfer had any risks to her health by being around her (and vice versa), and chose to not inform the child's parents, even though <i>others knew</i>.

She (MIL)probably thought that they wouldn't come if they knew.
And since the parents didn't yet know what the implications of a cfer being around an HIV patient were (and since it <i>can </i>involve actual communicable diseases, due to a compromised immune system), they would have been perfectly right in not going, until they talked to their child's doctor. Then, if he said it was okay, next time they could go.

But the MIL took that right away from them. She didn't let them make that choice- she did it for them. And since she doesn't grasp the seriousness of cf, this is dangerous if it is allowed to continue.

The MIL is undermining what little control they have over what germs their child is exposed to by her behavior, and I would be hopping mad, too, whether it was a cold or HIV, and it was my child.

 

[AnD]

Okay, I have gone back through and read again (to get a little perspective <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ) and I think the problem isn't that the lady had HIV- I think that the issue is that, apparently others (including the MIL) who knew that she had HIV (no outing issue), had no idea of whether or not the cfer had any risks to her health by being around her (and vice versa), and chose to not inform the child's parents, even though <i>others knew</i>.

She (MIL)probably thought that they wouldn't come if they knew.
And since the parents didn't yet know what the implications of a cfer being around an HIV patient were (and since it <i>can </i>involve actual communicable diseases, due to a compromised immune system), they would have been perfectly right in not going, until they talked to their child's doctor. Then, if he said it was okay, next time they could go.

But the MIL took that right away from them. She didn't let them make that choice- she did it for them. And since she doesn't grasp the seriousness of cf, this is dangerous if it is allowed to continue.

The MIL is undermining what little control they have over what germs their child is exposed to by her behavior, and I would be hopping mad, too, whether it was a cold or HIV, and it was my child.

 

[AnD]

Okay, I have gone back through and read again (to get a little perspective <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ) and I think the problem isn't that the lady had HIV- I think that the issue is that, apparently others (including the MIL) who knew that she had HIV (no outing issue), had no idea of whether or not the cfer had any risks to her health by being around her (and vice versa), and chose to not inform the child's parents, even though <i>others knew</i>.

She (MIL)probably thought that they wouldn't come if they knew.
And since the parents didn't yet know what the implications of a cfer being around an HIV patient were (and since it <i>can </i>involve actual communicable diseases, due to a compromised immune system), they would have been perfectly right in not going, until they talked to their child's doctor. Then, if he said it was okay, next time they could go.

But the MIL took that right away from them. She didn't let them make that choice- she did it for them. And since she doesn't grasp the seriousness of cf, this is dangerous if it is allowed to continue.

The MIL is undermining what little control they have over what germs their child is exposed to by her behavior, and I would be hopping mad, too, whether it was a cold or HIV, and it was my child.

 

[AnD]

Okay, I have gone back through and read again (to get a little perspective <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ) and I think the problem isn't that the lady had HIV- I think that the issue is that, apparently others (including the MIL) who knew that she had HIV (no outing issue), had no idea of whether or not the cfer had any risks to her health by being around her (and vice versa), and chose to not inform the child's parents, even though <i>others knew</i>.

She (MIL)probably thought that they wouldn't come if they knew.
And since the parents didn't yet know what the implications of a cfer being around an HIV patient were (and since it <i>can </i>involve actual communicable diseases, due to a compromised immune system), they would have been perfectly right in not going, until they talked to their child's doctor. Then, if he said it was okay, next time they could go.

But the MIL took that right away from them. She didn't let them make that choice- she did it for them. And since she doesn't grasp the seriousness of cf, this is dangerous if it is allowed to continue.

The MIL is undermining what little control they have over what germs their child is exposed to by her behavior, and I would be hopping mad, too, whether it was a cold or HIV, and it was my child.

 

[js7881]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>AnD</b></i>

Okay, I have gone back through and read again (to get a little perspective <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ) and I think the problem isn't that the lady had HIV- I think that the issue is that, apparently others (including the MIL) who knew that she had HIV (no outing issue), had no idea of whether or not the cfer had any risks to her health by being around her (and vice versa), and chose to not inform the child's parents, even though <i>others knew</i>.



She (MIL)probably thought that they wouldn't come if they knew.

And since the parents didn't yet know what the implications of a cfer being around an HIV patient were (and since it <i>can </i>involve actual communicable diseases, due to a compromised immune system), they would have been perfectly right in not going, until they talked to their child's doctor. Then, if he said it was okay, next time they could go.



But the MIL took that right away from them. She didn't let them make that choice- she did it for them. And since she doesn't grasp the seriousness of cf, this is dangerous if it is allowed to continue.



The MIL is undermining what little control they have over what germs their child is exposed to by her behavior, and I would be hopping mad, too, whether it was a cold or HIV, and it was my child.</end quote></div>


YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE NOSE!!!! Well put!!!!

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! Someone who feels the same way I do!!!

 

[js7881]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>AnD</b></i>

Okay, I have gone back through and read again (to get a little perspective <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ) and I think the problem isn't that the lady had HIV- I think that the issue is that, apparently others (including the MIL) who knew that she had HIV (no outing issue), had no idea of whether or not the cfer had any risks to her health by being around her (and vice versa), and chose to not inform the child's parents, even though <i>others knew</i>.



She (MIL)probably thought that they wouldn't come if they knew.

And since the parents didn't yet know what the implications of a cfer being around an HIV patient were (and since it <i>can </i>involve actual communicable diseases, due to a compromised immune system), they would have been perfectly right in not going, until they talked to their child's doctor. Then, if he said it was okay, next time they could go.



But the MIL took that right away from them. She didn't let them make that choice- she did it for them. And since she doesn't grasp the seriousness of cf, this is dangerous if it is allowed to continue.



The MIL is undermining what little control they have over what germs their child is exposed to by her behavior, and I would be hopping mad, too, whether it was a cold or HIV, and it was my child.</end quote></div>


YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE NOSE!!!! Well put!!!!

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! Someone who feels the same way I do!!!

 

[js7881]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>AnD</b></i>

Okay, I have gone back through and read again (to get a little perspective <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ) and I think the problem isn't that the lady had HIV- I think that the issue is that, apparently others (including the MIL) who knew that she had HIV (no outing issue), had no idea of whether or not the cfer had any risks to her health by being around her (and vice versa), and chose to not inform the child's parents, even though <i>others knew</i>.



She (MIL)probably thought that they wouldn't come if they knew.

And since the parents didn't yet know what the implications of a cfer being around an HIV patient were (and since it <i>can </i>involve actual communicable diseases, due to a compromised immune system), they would have been perfectly right in not going, until they talked to their child's doctor. Then, if he said it was okay, next time they could go.



But the MIL took that right away from them. She didn't let them make that choice- she did it for them. And since she doesn't grasp the seriousness of cf, this is dangerous if it is allowed to continue.



The MIL is undermining what little control they have over what germs their child is exposed to by her behavior, and I would be hopping mad, too, whether it was a cold or HIV, and it was my child.</end quote></div>


YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE NOSE!!!! Well put!!!!

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! Someone who feels the same way I do!!!

 

[js7881]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>AnD</b></i>

Okay, I have gone back through and read again (to get a little perspective <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ) and I think the problem isn't that the lady had HIV- I think that the issue is that, apparently others (including the MIL) who knew that she had HIV (no outing issue), had no idea of whether or not the cfer had any risks to her health by being around her (and vice versa), and chose to not inform the child's parents, even though <i>others knew</i>.



She (MIL)probably thought that they wouldn't come if they knew.

And since the parents didn't yet know what the implications of a cfer being around an HIV patient were (and since it <i>can </i>involve actual communicable diseases, due to a compromised immune system), they would have been perfectly right in not going, until they talked to their child's doctor. Then, if he said it was okay, next time they could go.



But the MIL took that right away from them. She didn't let them make that choice- she did it for them. And since she doesn't grasp the seriousness of cf, this is dangerous if it is allowed to continue.



The MIL is undermining what little control they have over what germs their child is exposed to by her behavior, and I would be hopping mad, too, whether it was a cold or HIV, and it was my child.</end quote></div>


YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE NOSE!!!! Well put!!!!

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! Someone who feels the same way I do!!!

 

[js7881]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>AnD</b></i>

Okay, I have gone back through and read again (to get a little perspective <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ) and I think the problem isn't that the lady had HIV- I think that the issue is that, apparently others (including the MIL) who knew that she had HIV (no outing issue), had no idea of whether or not the cfer had any risks to her health by being around her (and vice versa), and chose to not inform the child's parents, even though <i>others knew</i>.



She (MIL)probably thought that they wouldn't come if they knew.

And since the parents didn't yet know what the implications of a cfer being around an HIV patient were (and since it <i>can </i>involve actual communicable diseases, due to a compromised immune system), they would have been perfectly right in not going, until they talked to their child's doctor. Then, if he said it was okay, next time they could go.



But the MIL took that right away from them. She didn't let them make that choice- she did it for them. And since she doesn't grasp the seriousness of cf, this is dangerous if it is allowed to continue.



The MIL is undermining what little control they have over what germs their child is exposed to by her behavior, and I would be hopping mad, too, whether it was a cold or HIV, and it was my child.</end quote>


YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE NOSE!!!! Well put!!!!

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! Someone who feels the same way I do!!!

 

[js7881]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>AnD</b></i>

Okay, I have gone back through and read again (to get a little perspective <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ) and I think the problem isn't that the lady had HIV- I think that the issue is that, apparently others (including the MIL) who knew that she had HIV (no outing issue), had no idea of whether or not the cfer had any risks to her health by being around her (and vice versa), and chose to not inform the child's parents, even though <i>others knew</i>.



She (MIL)probably thought that they wouldn't come if they knew.

And since the parents didn't yet know what the implications of a cfer being around an HIV patient were (and since it <i>can </i>involve actual communicable diseases, due to a compromised immune system), they would have been perfectly right in not going, until they talked to their child's doctor. Then, if he said it was okay, next time they could go.



But the MIL took that right away from them. She didn't let them make that choice- she did it for them. And since she doesn't grasp the seriousness of cf, this is dangerous if it is allowed to continue.



The MIL is undermining what little control they have over what germs their child is exposed to by her behavior, and I would be hopping mad, too, whether it was a cold or HIV, and it was my child.</end quote>


YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE NOSE!!!! Well put!!!!

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! Someone who feels the same way I do!!!

 

[Sakem]

1. Swearing and cussing adds nothing to your view and only takes away from a thread. When ever I have read peoples posts, that resort to profanity, and there are a few others on here that likes to type them, my view of these people are that they are irrational and ignorant, or else they would think out their response more carfully before they type and know better words in their vocabulary that express their point.

2. As far as telling someone their child is probably going to die of CF, I don't think no one today can confidently say this. SUre if u are in your 20s or 30s, CF is probably going to kill you, and if technology never advances further than today, realistlic CF will kill a child, but NO ONE can predict what will be of CF in 20, 30 or 40 years.

3. HIV or AIDs, whether for my own health or my childs, I do want to be around neither one of these people. If that makes me a bad person in others eyes, then so be it. I don't care. Just as I chose not be be around other CF people, Hep C, TB, smokers, or many others. Yeah out in public I can't always avoid it, but I don't make a habit of visitng people's homes, hospital rooms of such patients, or group gatherings of such individuals nor would I want to knowingly take my kid around them.

 

[Sakem]

1. Swearing and cussing adds nothing to your view and only takes away from a thread. When ever I have read peoples posts, that resort to profanity, and there are a few others on here that likes to type them, my view of these people are that they are irrational and ignorant, or else they would think out their response more carfully before they type and know better words in their vocabulary that express their point.

2. As far as telling someone their child is probably going to die of CF, I don't think no one today can confidently say this. SUre if u are in your 20s or 30s, CF is probably going to kill you, and if technology never advances further than today, realistlic CF will kill a child, but NO ONE can predict what will be of CF in 20, 30 or 40 years.

3. HIV or AIDs, whether for my own health or my childs, I do want to be around neither one of these people. If that makes me a bad person in others eyes, then so be it. I don't care. Just as I chose not be be around other CF people, Hep C, TB, smokers, or many others. Yeah out in public I can't always avoid it, but I don't make a habit of visitng people's homes, hospital rooms of such patients, or group gatherings of such individuals nor would I want to knowingly take my kid around them.