This makes me feel very sad

Faust

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Well you gotta look at it both ways, and try not to be too emotionally attached. As we all know (though some don't want to think about it), disease, and mutations that lead to disease are natures way of culling any population, including humans. Our mutation(s) that lead to our disease essentially was a death sentence. I surely was not supposed to live to be nearly 37 years of age. None of us with CF was. Or any other chronic/terminal disease. No parent wants to have a child with a disease like CF. I know I personally wouldn't want a child of mine to suffer the way I suffered. Who would? Technology advances, prescreening advances, some may even abort their children...And in turn you have the inevitable outcome of less and less people living with CF, even when our longevity goes up due to new advances in medicines and care.


The part that really sucks for those with CF alive and trying to stay alive: With less and less CF patients around to receive drugs, there won't be as much financial motivation to develop new drugs for those patients, because they won't be able to recoup their R&D, and the profits just won't be there. So i'm happy there is less people suffering from CF, this is of course not the way those of us with CF wanted to see it. It essentially equates to eugenics. But let's not fool ourselves. From a natural aspect, we sure as hell weren't supposed to survive long.
 

Faust

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Well you gotta look at it both ways, and try not to be too emotionally attached. As we all know (though some don't want to think about it), disease, and mutations that lead to disease are natures way of culling any population, including humans. Our mutation(s) that lead to our disease essentially was a death sentence. I surely was not supposed to live to be nearly 37 years of age. None of us with CF was. Or any other chronic/terminal disease. No parent wants to have a child with a disease like CF. I know I personally wouldn't want a child of mine to suffer the way I suffered. Who would? Technology advances, prescreening advances, some may even abort their children...And in turn you have the inevitable outcome of less and less people living with CF, even when our longevity goes up due to new advances in medicines and care.


The part that really sucks for those with CF alive and trying to stay alive: With less and less CF patients around to receive drugs, there won't be as much financial motivation to develop new drugs for those patients, because they won't be able to recoup their R&D, and the profits just won't be there. So i'm happy there is less people suffering from CF, this is of course not the way those of us with CF wanted to see it. It essentially equates to eugenics. But let's not fool ourselves. From a natural aspect, we sure as hell weren't supposed to survive long.
 

Faust

New member
Well you gotta look at it both ways, and try not to be too emotionally attached. As we all know (though some don't want to think about it), disease, and mutations that lead to disease are natures way of culling any population, including humans. Our mutation(s) that lead to our disease essentially was a death sentence. I surely was not supposed to live to be nearly 37 years of age. None of us with CF was. Or any other chronic/terminal disease. No parent wants to have a child with a disease like CF. I know I personally wouldn't want a child of mine to suffer the way I suffered. Who would? Technology advances, prescreening advances, some may even abort their children...And in turn you have the inevitable outcome of less and less people living with CF, even when our longevity goes up due to new advances in medicines and care.


The part that really sucks for those with CF alive and trying to stay alive: With less and less CF patients around to receive drugs, there won't be as much financial motivation to develop new drugs for those patients, because they won't be able to recoup their R&D, and the profits just won't be there. So i'm happy there is less people suffering from CF, this is of course not the way those of us with CF wanted to see it. It essentially equates to eugenics. But let's not fool ourselves. From a natural aspect, we sure as hell weren't supposed to survive long.
 

Faust

New member
Well you gotta look at it both ways, and try not to be too emotionally attached. As we all know (though some don't want to think about it), disease, and mutations that lead to disease are natures way of culling any population, including humans. Our mutation(s) that lead to our disease essentially was a death sentence. I surely was not supposed to live to be nearly 37 years of age. None of us with CF was. Or any other chronic/terminal disease. No parent wants to have a child with a disease like CF. I know I personally wouldn't want a child of mine to suffer the way I suffered. Who would? Technology advances, prescreening advances, some may even abort their children...And in turn you have the inevitable outcome of less and less people living with CF, even when our longevity goes up due to new advances in medicines and care.


The part that really sucks for those with CF alive and trying to stay alive: With less and less CF patients around to receive drugs, there won't be as much financial motivation to develop new drugs for those patients, because they won't be able to recoup their R&D, and the profits just won't be there. So i'm happy there is less people suffering from CF, this is of course not the way those of us with CF wanted to see it. It essentially equates to eugenics. But let's not fool ourselves. From a natural aspect, we sure as hell weren't supposed to survive long.
 

Faust

New member
Well you gotta look at it both ways, and try not to be too emotionally attached. As we all know (though some don't want to think about it), disease, and mutations that lead to disease are natures way of culling any population, including humans. Our mutation(s) that lead to our disease essentially was a death sentence. I surely was not supposed to live to be nearly 37 years of age. None of us with CF was. Or any other chronic/terminal disease. No parent wants to have a child with a disease like CF. I know I personally wouldn't want a child of mine to suffer the way I suffered. Who would? Technology advances, prescreening advances, some may even abort their children...And in turn you have the inevitable outcome of less and less people living with CF, even when our longevity goes up due to new advances in medicines and care.
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<br />The part that really sucks for those with CF alive and trying to stay alive: With less and less CF patients around to receive drugs, there won't be as much financial motivation to develop new drugs for those patients, because they won't be able to recoup their R&D, and the profits just won't be there. So i'm happy there is less people suffering from CF, this is of course not the way those of us with CF wanted to see it. It essentially equates to eugenics. But let's not fool ourselves. From a natural aspect, we sure as hell weren't supposed to survive long.
 

Faust

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Also, my lady has just done screening to see if she is a carrier. We are planning on having a child fairly soon. If she comes back as a carrier, absolutely no way will we have a biological child together. While I find myself to be an interesting, fairly unique person who has had a positive impact on many peoples lives, I still have a real sucky disease, and I wouldn't want my child to have this disease.
 

Faust

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Also, my lady has just done screening to see if she is a carrier. We are planning on having a child fairly soon. If she comes back as a carrier, absolutely no way will we have a biological child together. While I find myself to be an interesting, fairly unique person who has had a positive impact on many peoples lives, I still have a real sucky disease, and I wouldn't want my child to have this disease.
 

Faust

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Also, my lady has just done screening to see if she is a carrier. We are planning on having a child fairly soon. If she comes back as a carrier, absolutely no way will we have a biological child together. While I find myself to be an interesting, fairly unique person who has had a positive impact on many peoples lives, I still have a real sucky disease, and I wouldn't want my child to have this disease.
 

Faust

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Also, my lady has just done screening to see if she is a carrier. We are planning on having a child fairly soon. If she comes back as a carrier, absolutely no way will we have a biological child together. While I find myself to be an interesting, fairly unique person who has had a positive impact on many peoples lives, I still have a real sucky disease, and I wouldn't want my child to have this disease.
 

Faust

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Also, my lady has just done screening to see if she is a carrier. We are planning on having a child fairly soon. If she comes back as a carrier, absolutely no way will we have a biological child together. While I find myself to be an interesting, fairly unique person who has had a positive impact on many peoples lives, I still have a real sucky disease, and I wouldn't want my child to have this disease.
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kmaried

New member
Wow! Talk about a sensitive topic. I have a few comments about this...

1 - The first time I was introduced to the abort CF concept was when I went to Quest Lab for a blood test. There was a brochure about pre-natal CF screening and it made it seem like you would be insane not to abort. It sort of gave the worst case scenario of CF progression - that you'll need to be wealthy and able to be a full time nurse to your child. It got me SO upset.

2 - I was at my boyfriend's family's Christmas party, and his cousin's wife didn't realize I had CF (although we have been dating 3 years - we don't see them that often). The first time she had heard of CF was when she was pregnant and the screening was suggested. She chose not to have it. She asked the counselor for specific best and worst case manifestations of CF, and the counselor gave them to her. She decided it was worth the test wouldn't have changed her mind to have the baby - considering how wide the range of CF really is. She commented how glad she was to have made that decision, especially after meeting me... my life is hard, and I made no mistake of that, but worthwhile in my humble opinion <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> This one made me smile -- almost made up for that damn brochure!

3 - My co-worker has fragile X in her family and so she is doing in vitro fertilization -- basically she's having having her eggs removed to a petri dish - they're fertilizing them, and implanting one that has tested negative for the fragile X chromosome. This is confusing to me; because I'm not sure how I would feel about doing this for CF, or really how I feel about this ethically. Just thought I'd put it out there.

4 - Lastly, to comment on the College thing... I went away to school and lived in a single for the first year. That way I was able to make friends and have them understand my situation before I lived with them! Anyway, we lived together for the next three years and it was great -- they were always accomodating and understanding! To be honest, I'm more concerned about eventually living with my boyfriend... he's supposed to find me attractive despite all that <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> My friends didn't have to!! Haha.

Hope everyone's having a "better" kind of day!!

Kris
 

kmaried

New member
Wow! Talk about a sensitive topic. I have a few comments about this...

1 - The first time I was introduced to the abort CF concept was when I went to Quest Lab for a blood test. There was a brochure about pre-natal CF screening and it made it seem like you would be insane not to abort. It sort of gave the worst case scenario of CF progression - that you'll need to be wealthy and able to be a full time nurse to your child. It got me SO upset.

2 - I was at my boyfriend's family's Christmas party, and his cousin's wife didn't realize I had CF (although we have been dating 3 years - we don't see them that often). The first time she had heard of CF was when she was pregnant and the screening was suggested. She chose not to have it. She asked the counselor for specific best and worst case manifestations of CF, and the counselor gave them to her. She decided it was worth the test wouldn't have changed her mind to have the baby - considering how wide the range of CF really is. She commented how glad she was to have made that decision, especially after meeting me... my life is hard, and I made no mistake of that, but worthwhile in my humble opinion <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> This one made me smile -- almost made up for that damn brochure!

3 - My co-worker has fragile X in her family and so she is doing in vitro fertilization -- basically she's having having her eggs removed to a petri dish - they're fertilizing them, and implanting one that has tested negative for the fragile X chromosome. This is confusing to me; because I'm not sure how I would feel about doing this for CF, or really how I feel about this ethically. Just thought I'd put it out there.

4 - Lastly, to comment on the College thing... I went away to school and lived in a single for the first year. That way I was able to make friends and have them understand my situation before I lived with them! Anyway, we lived together for the next three years and it was great -- they were always accomodating and understanding! To be honest, I'm more concerned about eventually living with my boyfriend... he's supposed to find me attractive despite all that <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> My friends didn't have to!! Haha.

Hope everyone's having a "better" kind of day!!

Kris
 

kmaried

New member
Wow! Talk about a sensitive topic. I have a few comments about this...

1 - The first time I was introduced to the abort CF concept was when I went to Quest Lab for a blood test. There was a brochure about pre-natal CF screening and it made it seem like you would be insane not to abort. It sort of gave the worst case scenario of CF progression - that you'll need to be wealthy and able to be a full time nurse to your child. It got me SO upset.

2 - I was at my boyfriend's family's Christmas party, and his cousin's wife didn't realize I had CF (although we have been dating 3 years - we don't see them that often). The first time she had heard of CF was when she was pregnant and the screening was suggested. She chose not to have it. She asked the counselor for specific best and worst case manifestations of CF, and the counselor gave them to her. She decided it was worth the test wouldn't have changed her mind to have the baby - considering how wide the range of CF really is. She commented how glad she was to have made that decision, especially after meeting me... my life is hard, and I made no mistake of that, but worthwhile in my humble opinion <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> This one made me smile -- almost made up for that damn brochure!

3 - My co-worker has fragile X in her family and so she is doing in vitro fertilization -- basically she's having having her eggs removed to a petri dish - they're fertilizing them, and implanting one that has tested negative for the fragile X chromosome. This is confusing to me; because I'm not sure how I would feel about doing this for CF, or really how I feel about this ethically. Just thought I'd put it out there.

4 - Lastly, to comment on the College thing... I went away to school and lived in a single for the first year. That way I was able to make friends and have them understand my situation before I lived with them! Anyway, we lived together for the next three years and it was great -- they were always accomodating and understanding! To be honest, I'm more concerned about eventually living with my boyfriend... he's supposed to find me attractive despite all that <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> My friends didn't have to!! Haha.

Hope everyone's having a "better" kind of day!!

Kris
 

kmaried

New member
Wow! Talk about a sensitive topic. I have a few comments about this...

1 - The first time I was introduced to the abort CF concept was when I went to Quest Lab for a blood test. There was a brochure about pre-natal CF screening and it made it seem like you would be insane not to abort. It sort of gave the worst case scenario of CF progression - that you'll need to be wealthy and able to be a full time nurse to your child. It got me SO upset.

2 - I was at my boyfriend's family's Christmas party, and his cousin's wife didn't realize I had CF (although we have been dating 3 years - we don't see them that often). The first time she had heard of CF was when she was pregnant and the screening was suggested. She chose not to have it. She asked the counselor for specific best and worst case manifestations of CF, and the counselor gave them to her. She decided it was worth the test wouldn't have changed her mind to have the baby - considering how wide the range of CF really is. She commented how glad she was to have made that decision, especially after meeting me... my life is hard, and I made no mistake of that, but worthwhile in my humble opinion <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> This one made me smile -- almost made up for that damn brochure!

3 - My co-worker has fragile X in her family and so she is doing in vitro fertilization -- basically she's having having her eggs removed to a petri dish - they're fertilizing them, and implanting one that has tested negative for the fragile X chromosome. This is confusing to me; because I'm not sure how I would feel about doing this for CF, or really how I feel about this ethically. Just thought I'd put it out there.

4 - Lastly, to comment on the College thing... I went away to school and lived in a single for the first year. That way I was able to make friends and have them understand my situation before I lived with them! Anyway, we lived together for the next three years and it was great -- they were always accomodating and understanding! To be honest, I'm more concerned about eventually living with my boyfriend... he's supposed to find me attractive despite all that <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> My friends didn't have to!! Haha.

Hope everyone's having a "better" kind of day!!

Kris
 

kmaried

New member
Wow! Talk about a sensitive topic. I have a few comments about this...
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<br />1 - The first time I was introduced to the abort CF concept was when I went to Quest Lab for a blood test. There was a brochure about pre-natal CF screening and it made it seem like you would be insane not to abort. It sort of gave the worst case scenario of CF progression - that you'll need to be wealthy and able to be a full time nurse to your child. It got me SO upset.
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<br />2 - I was at my boyfriend's family's Christmas party, and his cousin's wife didn't realize I had CF (although we have been dating 3 years - we don't see them that often). The first time she had heard of CF was when she was pregnant and the screening was suggested. She chose not to have it. She asked the counselor for specific best and worst case manifestations of CF, and the counselor gave them to her. She decided it was worth the test wouldn't have changed her mind to have the baby - considering how wide the range of CF really is. She commented how glad she was to have made that decision, especially after meeting me... my life is hard, and I made no mistake of that, but worthwhile in my humble opinion <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> This one made me smile -- almost made up for that damn brochure!
<br />
<br />3 - My co-worker has fragile X in her family and so she is doing in vitro fertilization -- basically she's having having her eggs removed to a petri dish - they're fertilizing them, and implanting one that has tested negative for the fragile X chromosome. This is confusing to me; because I'm not sure how I would feel about doing this for CF, or really how I feel about this ethically. Just thought I'd put it out there.
<br />
<br />4 - Lastly, to comment on the College thing... I went away to school and lived in a single for the first year. That way I was able to make friends and have them understand my situation before I lived with them! Anyway, we lived together for the next three years and it was great -- they were always accomodating and understanding! To be honest, I'm more concerned about eventually living with my boyfriend... he's supposed to find me attractive despite all that <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> My friends didn't have to!! Haha.
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<br />Hope everyone's having a "better" kind of day!!
<br />
<br />Kris
 

Diane

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I havent read all the responses yet so i dont know if i am repeating what someone has already said...................
I am on the fence about this issue.............
I firmly believe the <b>only</b> way to "cure" cf is to <b>eliminate it from happening</b>. We will never be void of cf in this world if people keep having babies with cf.
Do i think a baby born with cf is so terrible? no, we have better treatments now a days and if you already know the baby has cf at birth, you are already ahead of the game and can start treatment early that may <b>possibly</b> give that child a good life with a normal life span. But it also may turn out badly as it sadly still does sometimes ,even with all the things we have today to treat it. This is exactly why i am on the fence about this issue. There are no guarantees either way. Then again nothing in life is guaranteed..... you could have a perfectly healthy child that does not make it for one reason or another.
<u>But i absolutely stand by the reasoning that the only way to cure cf is to prevent it from happening in the first place.
</u>
 

Diane

New member
I havent read all the responses yet so i dont know if i am repeating what someone has already said...................
I am on the fence about this issue.............
I firmly believe the <b>only</b> way to "cure" cf is to <b>eliminate it from happening</b>. We will never be void of cf in this world if people keep having babies with cf.
Do i think a baby born with cf is so terrible? no, we have better treatments now a days and if you already know the baby has cf at birth, you are already ahead of the game and can start treatment early that may <b>possibly</b> give that child a good life with a normal life span. But it also may turn out badly as it sadly still does sometimes ,even with all the things we have today to treat it. This is exactly why i am on the fence about this issue. There are no guarantees either way. Then again nothing in life is guaranteed..... you could have a perfectly healthy child that does not make it for one reason or another.
<u>But i absolutely stand by the reasoning that the only way to cure cf is to prevent it from happening in the first place.
</u>
 

Diane

New member
I havent read all the responses yet so i dont know if i am repeating what someone has already said...................
I am on the fence about this issue.............
I firmly believe the <b>only</b> way to "cure" cf is to <b>eliminate it from happening</b>. We will never be void of cf in this world if people keep having babies with cf.
Do i think a baby born with cf is so terrible? no, we have better treatments now a days and if you already know the baby has cf at birth, you are already ahead of the game and can start treatment early that may <b>possibly</b> give that child a good life with a normal life span. But it also may turn out badly as it sadly still does sometimes ,even with all the things we have today to treat it. This is exactly why i am on the fence about this issue. There are no guarantees either way. Then again nothing in life is guaranteed..... you could have a perfectly healthy child that does not make it for one reason or another.
<u>But i absolutely stand by the reasoning that the only way to cure cf is to prevent it from happening in the first place.
</u>
 

Diane

New member
I havent read all the responses yet so i dont know if i am repeating what someone has already said...................
I am on the fence about this issue.............
I firmly believe the <b>only</b> way to "cure" cf is to <b>eliminate it from happening</b>. We will never be void of cf in this world if people keep having babies with cf.
Do i think a baby born with cf is so terrible? no, we have better treatments now a days and if you already know the baby has cf at birth, you are already ahead of the game and can start treatment early that may <b>possibly</b> give that child a good life with a normal life span. But it also may turn out badly as it sadly still does sometimes ,even with all the things we have today to treat it. This is exactly why i am on the fence about this issue. There are no guarantees either way. Then again nothing in life is guaranteed..... you could have a perfectly healthy child that does not make it for one reason or another.
<u>But i absolutely stand by the reasoning that the only way to cure cf is to prevent it from happening in the first place.
</u>
 

Diane

New member
I havent read all the responses yet so i dont know if i am repeating what someone has already said...................
<br />I am on the fence about this issue.............
<br />I firmly believe the <b>only</b> way to "cure" cf is to <b>eliminate it from happening</b>. We will never be void of cf in this world if people keep having babies with cf.
<br />Do i think a baby born with cf is so terrible? no, we have better treatments now a days and if you already know the baby has cf at birth, you are already ahead of the game and can start treatment early that may <b>possibly</b> give that child a good life with a normal life span. But it also may turn out badly as it sadly still does sometimes ,even with all the things we have today to treat it. This is exactly why i am on the fence about this issue. There are no guarantees either way. Then again nothing in life is guaranteed..... you could have a perfectly healthy child that does not make it for one reason or another.
<br /> <u>But i absolutely stand by the reasoning that the only way to cure cf is to prevent it from happening in the first place.
<br /> </u>
 
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