Well, according to those stupid charts in the hospital the nurses carry around, i would say that anything past the third face would be pain <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif" border="0"> lol yeah, with cf you deal with pain a lot of times, but you learn to deal with it, take 400mg of ibuprophen and keep going, if that doesn't get the job done, bust out the "happy pills" the dr gave you lol. i try not to complain too much about the various aches and pains, specifically my knees, hips, gut, lungs, and head but yeah i guess i would call that pain but one of the lesser degrees of it