what is the median age WITHOUT transplant

Wipeout

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>anonymous</b></i>

The median age is inherently lousy data regardless.</end quote></div>

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Wipeout

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>anonymous</b></i>

The median age is inherently lousy data regardless.</end quote></div>

Here Here! Nuts to that.
 

Wipeout

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>anonymous</b></i>

The median age is inherently lousy data regardless.</end quote></div>

Here Here! Nuts to that.
 

dyza

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lung transplants increases the median age by 4.5 years. But I dont know if you add this to the 36.5, or take it away from it.

My info is from the American thoratic society.
 

dyza

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lung transplants increases the median age by 4.5 years. But I dont know if you add this to the 36.5, or take it away from it.

My info is from the American thoratic society.
 

dyza

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lung transplants increases the median age by 4.5 years. But I dont know if you add this to the 36.5, or take it away from it.

My info is from the American thoratic society.
 

anonymous

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the median age is inherently unhelpful to an individual, but to know the median age <i>without </i>translaplnat would let us know a bit more about how eefetive the advances they have made with improved care alone.
 

anonymous

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the median age is inherently unhelpful to an individual, but to know the median age <i>without </i>translaplnat would let us know a bit more about how eefetive the advances they have made with improved care alone.
 

anonymous

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the median age is inherently unhelpful to an individual, but to know the median age <i>without </i>translaplnat would let us know a bit more about how eefetive the advances they have made with improved care alone.
 

anonymous

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Median shmeidan... I know that if my boyfriend doesn't get his transplant, his life expectancy will be 30 at the most. Since he will get it, he will live longer. Transplants add years (as long as they are successful). and now I have hope that he will be one of the people at 10 years post tx and still doing great.
 

anonymous

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Median shmeidan... I know that if my boyfriend doesn't get his transplant, his life expectancy will be 30 at the most. Since he will get it, he will live longer. Transplants add years (as long as they are successful). and now I have hope that he will be one of the people at 10 years post tx and still doing great.
 

anonymous

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Median shmeidan... I know that if my boyfriend doesn't get his transplant, his life expectancy will be 30 at the most. Since he will get it, he will live longer. Transplants add years (as long as they are successful). and now I have hope that he will be one of the people at 10 years post tx and still doing great.
 

anonymous

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I'm groggy, so please correct the math as needed. And Im too
tired to battle my old browser for the articles here, but they're
easily Googled.

Dyza, does the source you cite say tx increases the median age
of cystics by 4.5 or that 4.5 is the median survival time of tx
recipients? The Rainbow Babies/Birmingham study a few years
back shows it's dubious whether tx increases the longevity of tx
recipents at all. In other words, their non-tx group in the same
FEV1 range lived about as long or longer as those who were tx'd.
Yes, there were factors other than FEV1, and this was under the
old allocation system, but the new system is only a year and a half
old and most of those old-system patients are still with us, affecting
the median. Anyway, the paper reminds us that tx is no great
bargain either. The Times article this week suggested the same
thing.

And even if every tx patient lived exactly 4.5 years post-surgery,
they would still only represent a fourth or a fifth of the whole CF
population and thus would have only a slight effect on the overall
median.

In addition, the median age of tx is 28. The median survival of
those patients is five years. Therefore, they should bring the
overall CF median DOWN, not up. Is that right?

As someone suggested above, the medians are misleading
numbers because there is not one type of CF or CF treatment.
Minnesota, for instance, reports that the discrepancy between
non-diabetic male cystics and diabetic females is something like 17
years. So you can't have the same CF twice.

Q
 

anonymous

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I'm groggy, so please correct the math as needed. And Im too
tired to battle my old browser for the articles here, but they're
easily Googled.

Dyza, does the source you cite say tx increases the median age
of cystics by 4.5 or that 4.5 is the median survival time of tx
recipients? The Rainbow Babies/Birmingham study a few years
back shows it's dubious whether tx increases the longevity of tx
recipents at all. In other words, their non-tx group in the same
FEV1 range lived about as long or longer as those who were tx'd.
Yes, there were factors other than FEV1, and this was under the
old allocation system, but the new system is only a year and a half
old and most of those old-system patients are still with us, affecting
the median. Anyway, the paper reminds us that tx is no great
bargain either. The Times article this week suggested the same
thing.

And even if every tx patient lived exactly 4.5 years post-surgery,
they would still only represent a fourth or a fifth of the whole CF
population and thus would have only a slight effect on the overall
median.

In addition, the median age of tx is 28. The median survival of
those patients is five years. Therefore, they should bring the
overall CF median DOWN, not up. Is that right?

As someone suggested above, the medians are misleading
numbers because there is not one type of CF or CF treatment.
Minnesota, for instance, reports that the discrepancy between
non-diabetic male cystics and diabetic females is something like 17
years. So you can't have the same CF twice.

Q
 

anonymous

New member
I'm groggy, so please correct the math as needed. And Im too
tired to battle my old browser for the articles here, but they're
easily Googled.

Dyza, does the source you cite say tx increases the median age
of cystics by 4.5 or that 4.5 is the median survival time of tx
recipients? The Rainbow Babies/Birmingham study a few years
back shows it's dubious whether tx increases the longevity of tx
recipents at all. In other words, their non-tx group in the same
FEV1 range lived about as long or longer as those who were tx'd.
Yes, there were factors other than FEV1, and this was under the
old allocation system, but the new system is only a year and a half
old and most of those old-system patients are still with us, affecting
the median. Anyway, the paper reminds us that tx is no great
bargain either. The Times article this week suggested the same
thing.

And even if every tx patient lived exactly 4.5 years post-surgery,
they would still only represent a fourth or a fifth of the whole CF
population and thus would have only a slight effect on the overall
median.

In addition, the median age of tx is 28. The median survival of
those patients is five years. Therefore, they should bring the
overall CF median DOWN, not up. Is that right?

As someone suggested above, the medians are misleading
numbers because there is not one type of CF or CF treatment.
Minnesota, for instance, reports that the discrepancy between
non-diabetic male cystics and diabetic females is something like 17
years. So you can't have the same CF twice.

Q
 

dyza

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here is what I found
 

dyza

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here is what I found
 

dyza

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</a>
here is what I found
 
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