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lightNlife
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lightNlife
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lightNlife
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Em, I've got to respectfully disagree with you on this one.
I agree that no matter what you say in life, you are going to offend someone at some point. That is very true.
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.
And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her. people have been banned for much less than the behavior that she displays sometimes. I'm not suggesting that happen, but this is not her forum to run rampant on. This is owned by someone else, and yes "we" keep it alive and keep it going, but more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way.
I'm actually pretty surprised that the mods haven't stepped in yet and asked her to tone it down a bit.
I keep pointing it out to amy because I guess I hold out hope that maybe some day she will see how awfully rude she is to others and see that she CAN relay her message and will probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all. She's got some valuable points and interesting things to share with all of us, but many people choose not to listen because of how they've been treated by her in the past.
I agree that no matter what you say in life, you are going to offend someone at some point. That is very true.
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.
And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her. people have been banned for much less than the behavior that she displays sometimes. I'm not suggesting that happen, but this is not her forum to run rampant on. This is owned by someone else, and yes "we" keep it alive and keep it going, but more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way.
I'm actually pretty surprised that the mods haven't stepped in yet and asked her to tone it down a bit.
I keep pointing it out to amy because I guess I hold out hope that maybe some day she will see how awfully rude she is to others and see that she CAN relay her message and will probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all. She's got some valuable points and interesting things to share with all of us, but many people choose not to listen because of how they've been treated by her in the past.
Em, I've got to respectfully disagree with you on this one.
I agree that no matter what you say in life, you are going to offend someone at some point. That is very true.
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.
And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her. people have been banned for much less than the behavior that she displays sometimes. I'm not suggesting that happen, but this is not her forum to run rampant on. This is owned by someone else, and yes "we" keep it alive and keep it going, but more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way.
I'm actually pretty surprised that the mods haven't stepped in yet and asked her to tone it down a bit.
I keep pointing it out to amy because I guess I hold out hope that maybe some day she will see how awfully rude she is to others and see that she CAN relay her message and will probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all. She's got some valuable points and interesting things to share with all of us, but many people choose not to listen because of how they've been treated by her in the past.
I agree that no matter what you say in life, you are going to offend someone at some point. That is very true.
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.
And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her. people have been banned for much less than the behavior that she displays sometimes. I'm not suggesting that happen, but this is not her forum to run rampant on. This is owned by someone else, and yes "we" keep it alive and keep it going, but more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way.
I'm actually pretty surprised that the mods haven't stepped in yet and asked her to tone it down a bit.
I keep pointing it out to amy because I guess I hold out hope that maybe some day she will see how awfully rude she is to others and see that she CAN relay her message and will probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all. She's got some valuable points and interesting things to share with all of us, but many people choose not to listen because of how they've been treated by her in the past.
Em, I've got to respectfully disagree with you on this one.
I agree that no matter what you say in life, you are going to offend someone at some point. That is very true.
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.
And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her. people have been banned for much less than the behavior that she displays sometimes. I'm not suggesting that happen, but this is not her forum to run rampant on. This is owned by someone else, and yes "we" keep it alive and keep it going, but more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way.
I'm actually pretty surprised that the mods haven't stepped in yet and asked her to tone it down a bit.
I keep pointing it out to amy because I guess I hold out hope that maybe some day she will see how awfully rude she is to others and see that she CAN relay her message and will probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all. She's got some valuable points and interesting things to share with all of us, but many people choose not to listen because of how they've been treated by her in the past.
I agree that no matter what you say in life, you are going to offend someone at some point. That is very true.
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.
And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her. people have been banned for much less than the behavior that she displays sometimes. I'm not suggesting that happen, but this is not her forum to run rampant on. This is owned by someone else, and yes "we" keep it alive and keep it going, but more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way.
I'm actually pretty surprised that the mods haven't stepped in yet and asked her to tone it down a bit.
I keep pointing it out to amy because I guess I hold out hope that maybe some day she will see how awfully rude she is to others and see that she CAN relay her message and will probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all. She's got some valuable points and interesting things to share with all of us, but many people choose not to listen because of how they've been treated by her in the past.
Em, I've got to respectfully disagree with you on this one.
I agree that no matter what you say in life, you are going to offend someone at some point. That is very true.
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.
And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her. people have been banned for much less than the behavior that she displays sometimes. I'm not suggesting that happen, but this is not her forum to run rampant on. This is owned by someone else, and yes "we" keep it alive and keep it going, but more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way.
I'm actually pretty surprised that the mods haven't stepped in yet and asked her to tone it down a bit.
I keep pointing it out to amy because I guess I hold out hope that maybe some day she will see how awfully rude she is to others and see that she CAN relay her message and will probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all. She's got some valuable points and interesting things to share with all of us, but many people choose not to listen because of how they've been treated by her in the past.
I agree that no matter what you say in life, you are going to offend someone at some point. That is very true.
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.
And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her. people have been banned for much less than the behavior that she displays sometimes. I'm not suggesting that happen, but this is not her forum to run rampant on. This is owned by someone else, and yes "we" keep it alive and keep it going, but more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way.
I'm actually pretty surprised that the mods haven't stepped in yet and asked her to tone it down a bit.
I keep pointing it out to amy because I guess I hold out hope that maybe some day she will see how awfully rude she is to others and see that she CAN relay her message and will probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all. She's got some valuable points and interesting things to share with all of us, but many people choose not to listen because of how they've been treated by her in the past.
Em, I've got to respectfully disagree with you on this one.
I agree that no matter what you say in life, you are going to offend someone at some point. That is very true.
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.
And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her. people have been banned for much less than the behavior that she displays sometimes. I'm not suggesting that happen, but this is not her forum to run rampant on. This is owned by someone else, and yes "we" keep it alive and keep it going, but more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way.
I'm actually pretty surprised that the mods haven't stepped in yet and asked her to tone it down a bit.
I keep pointing it out to amy because I guess I hold out hope that maybe some day she will see how awfully rude she is to others and see that she CAN relay her message and will probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all. She's got some valuable points and interesting things to share with all of us, but many people choose not to listen because of how they've been treated by her in the past.
I agree that no matter what you say in life, you are going to offend someone at some point. That is very true.
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.
And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her. people have been banned for much less than the behavior that she displays sometimes. I'm not suggesting that happen, but this is not her forum to run rampant on. This is owned by someone else, and yes "we" keep it alive and keep it going, but more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way.
I'm actually pretty surprised that the mods haven't stepped in yet and asked her to tone it down a bit.
I keep pointing it out to amy because I guess I hold out hope that maybe some day she will see how awfully rude she is to others and see that she CAN relay her message and will probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all. She's got some valuable points and interesting things to share with all of us, but many people choose not to listen because of how they've been treated by her in the past.
Em, I've got to respectfully disagree with you on this one.
I agree that no matter what you say in life, you are going to offend someone at some point. That is very true.
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.
And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her. people have been banned for much less than the behavior that she displays sometimes. I'm not suggesting that happen, but this is not her forum to run rampant on. This is owned by someone else, and yes "we" keep it alive and keep it going, but more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way.
I'm actually pretty surprised that the mods haven't stepped in yet and asked her to tone it down a bit.
I keep pointing it out to amy because I guess I hold out hope that maybe some day she will see how awfully rude she is to others and see that she CAN relay her message and will probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all. She's got some valuable points and interesting things to share with all of us, but many people choose not to listen because of how they've been treated by her in the past.
I agree that no matter what you say in life, you are going to offend someone at some point. That is very true.
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.
And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her. people have been banned for much less than the behavior that she displays sometimes. I'm not suggesting that happen, but this is not her forum to run rampant on. This is owned by someone else, and yes "we" keep it alive and keep it going, but more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way.
I'm actually pretty surprised that the mods haven't stepped in yet and asked her to tone it down a bit.
I keep pointing it out to amy because I guess I hold out hope that maybe some day she will see how awfully rude she is to others and see that she CAN relay her message and will probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all. She's got some valuable points and interesting things to share with all of us, but many people choose not to listen because of how they've been treated by her in the past.
Emily65Roses
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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.</end quote></div>
The thing is, many many people have told her this 1,000 times before. She's heard it. If she hasn't changed, your chances of making her do it now are pretty slim. I don't see the point of arguing when she's made it clear that she's Amy and that's that, no matter who doesn't like it.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her.</end quote></div>
I understand that, but what I'm saying is, it's not up to us. If they want to ban her, they will. If/until that happens, yes, those who don't like her have to work around her.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way. </end quote></div>
While I understand what you're saying with this one, I don't agree at all (not that people have left, I know some have left). There are plenty of people here that piss me off. Most of the time these days, I don't say anything, I just move on. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. People need to grow a thicker skin. I realize not everyone can grow a rhino hide, but if you're going to be online, you're going to come across people that are rude and hurt you. When they invent an internet that bans rude people altogether, someone let me know. In the meantime, people have to learn to work around people that piss them off, or they have to go elsewhere. That's not the fault of anyone but the individual who chooses to leave. Amy didn't put a gun to anyone's head and MAKE them leave. I understand what you're getting at, but the only one that can be blamed in the case of someone leaving is that individual. It is a choice they've made. Whether it's the right one or the wrong one is something they have to deal with.
There have been many times before where I've wanted someone to leave because they were being rude, annoying, immature, condescending, downright f*cking stupid, etc. You name it. But I don't have that power. I've also considered leaving more than once because of certain conversations/events/comments. But if I left, that would be my decision. I have no problem with you these days, but as an example: If I had stopped coming when you suggested Allie and I (I think there were others) change attitudes or leave, I wouldn't have blamed you. It would've been MY choice to leave. People need to accept responsibility for their not being able to deal. And while I don't always agree with Amy (or the way she says things), until she is banned, she has that right. If someone leaves because of something Amy says, that's their issue. If you're so sensitive that some name on a computer you've never met hurts your feelings enough to make you refuse to return to a place, that's something you have to deal with. Amy may be our resident b*tch, but EVERY site everywhere is going to have one. Like I said, when you find an internet that excludes people who suck, let me know.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all.</end quote></div>
And like I said. Many MANY people have told her before. If she hasn't changed yet, she's not going to. I don't see the point of always turning people's threads into Amy arguments, when you know she's not going to change who she is or how she says things to suit other people. Doesn't it completely defeat the purpose of people who don't like her... to always turn other people's threads into attention for Amy? Even if it's negative, I think so. *shrug*
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.</end quote></div>
The thing is, many many people have told her this 1,000 times before. She's heard it. If she hasn't changed, your chances of making her do it now are pretty slim. I don't see the point of arguing when she's made it clear that she's Amy and that's that, no matter who doesn't like it.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her.</end quote></div>
I understand that, but what I'm saying is, it's not up to us. If they want to ban her, they will. If/until that happens, yes, those who don't like her have to work around her.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way. </end quote></div>
While I understand what you're saying with this one, I don't agree at all (not that people have left, I know some have left). There are plenty of people here that piss me off. Most of the time these days, I don't say anything, I just move on. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. People need to grow a thicker skin. I realize not everyone can grow a rhino hide, but if you're going to be online, you're going to come across people that are rude and hurt you. When they invent an internet that bans rude people altogether, someone let me know. In the meantime, people have to learn to work around people that piss them off, or they have to go elsewhere. That's not the fault of anyone but the individual who chooses to leave. Amy didn't put a gun to anyone's head and MAKE them leave. I understand what you're getting at, but the only one that can be blamed in the case of someone leaving is that individual. It is a choice they've made. Whether it's the right one or the wrong one is something they have to deal with.
There have been many times before where I've wanted someone to leave because they were being rude, annoying, immature, condescending, downright f*cking stupid, etc. You name it. But I don't have that power. I've also considered leaving more than once because of certain conversations/events/comments. But if I left, that would be my decision. I have no problem with you these days, but as an example: If I had stopped coming when you suggested Allie and I (I think there were others) change attitudes or leave, I wouldn't have blamed you. It would've been MY choice to leave. People need to accept responsibility for their not being able to deal. And while I don't always agree with Amy (or the way she says things), until she is banned, she has that right. If someone leaves because of something Amy says, that's their issue. If you're so sensitive that some name on a computer you've never met hurts your feelings enough to make you refuse to return to a place, that's something you have to deal with. Amy may be our resident b*tch, but EVERY site everywhere is going to have one. Like I said, when you find an internet that excludes people who suck, let me know.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all.</end quote></div>
And like I said. Many MANY people have told her before. If she hasn't changed yet, she's not going to. I don't see the point of always turning people's threads into Amy arguments, when you know she's not going to change who she is or how she says things to suit other people. Doesn't it completely defeat the purpose of people who don't like her... to always turn other people's threads into attention for Amy? Even if it's negative, I think so. *shrug*
Emily65Roses
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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.</end quote></div>
The thing is, many many people have told her this 1,000 times before. She's heard it. If she hasn't changed, your chances of making her do it now are pretty slim. I don't see the point of arguing when she's made it clear that she's Amy and that's that, no matter who doesn't like it.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her.</end quote></div>
I understand that, but what I'm saying is, it's not up to us. If they want to ban her, they will. If/until that happens, yes, those who don't like her have to work around her.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way. </end quote></div>
While I understand what you're saying with this one, I don't agree at all (not that people have left, I know some have left). There are plenty of people here that piss me off. Most of the time these days, I don't say anything, I just move on. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. People need to grow a thicker skin. I realize not everyone can grow a rhino hide, but if you're going to be online, you're going to come across people that are rude and hurt you. When they invent an internet that bans rude people altogether, someone let me know. In the meantime, people have to learn to work around people that piss them off, or they have to go elsewhere. That's not the fault of anyone but the individual who chooses to leave. Amy didn't put a gun to anyone's head and MAKE them leave. I understand what you're getting at, but the only one that can be blamed in the case of someone leaving is that individual. It is a choice they've made. Whether it's the right one or the wrong one is something they have to deal with.
There have been many times before where I've wanted someone to leave because they were being rude, annoying, immature, condescending, downright f*cking stupid, etc. You name it. But I don't have that power. I've also considered leaving more than once because of certain conversations/events/comments. But if I left, that would be my decision. I have no problem with you these days, but as an example: If I had stopped coming when you suggested Allie and I (I think there were others) change attitudes or leave, I wouldn't have blamed you. It would've been MY choice to leave. People need to accept responsibility for their not being able to deal. And while I don't always agree with Amy (or the way she says things), until she is banned, she has that right. If someone leaves because of something Amy says, that's their issue. If you're so sensitive that some name on a computer you've never met hurts your feelings enough to make you refuse to return to a place, that's something you have to deal with. Amy may be our resident b*tch, but EVERY site everywhere is going to have one. Like I said, when you find an internet that excludes people who suck, let me know.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all.</end quote></div>
And like I said. Many MANY people have told her before. If she hasn't changed yet, she's not going to. I don't see the point of always turning people's threads into Amy arguments, when you know she's not going to change who she is or how she says things to suit other people. Doesn't it completely defeat the purpose of people who don't like her... to always turn other people's threads into attention for Amy? Even if it's negative, I think so. *shrug*
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.</end quote></div>
The thing is, many many people have told her this 1,000 times before. She's heard it. If she hasn't changed, your chances of making her do it now are pretty slim. I don't see the point of arguing when she's made it clear that she's Amy and that's that, no matter who doesn't like it.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her.</end quote></div>
I understand that, but what I'm saying is, it's not up to us. If they want to ban her, they will. If/until that happens, yes, those who don't like her have to work around her.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way. </end quote></div>
While I understand what you're saying with this one, I don't agree at all (not that people have left, I know some have left). There are plenty of people here that piss me off. Most of the time these days, I don't say anything, I just move on. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. People need to grow a thicker skin. I realize not everyone can grow a rhino hide, but if you're going to be online, you're going to come across people that are rude and hurt you. When they invent an internet that bans rude people altogether, someone let me know. In the meantime, people have to learn to work around people that piss them off, or they have to go elsewhere. That's not the fault of anyone but the individual who chooses to leave. Amy didn't put a gun to anyone's head and MAKE them leave. I understand what you're getting at, but the only one that can be blamed in the case of someone leaving is that individual. It is a choice they've made. Whether it's the right one or the wrong one is something they have to deal with.
There have been many times before where I've wanted someone to leave because they were being rude, annoying, immature, condescending, downright f*cking stupid, etc. You name it. But I don't have that power. I've also considered leaving more than once because of certain conversations/events/comments. But if I left, that would be my decision. I have no problem with you these days, but as an example: If I had stopped coming when you suggested Allie and I (I think there were others) change attitudes or leave, I wouldn't have blamed you. It would've been MY choice to leave. People need to accept responsibility for their not being able to deal. And while I don't always agree with Amy (or the way she says things), until she is banned, she has that right. If someone leaves because of something Amy says, that's their issue. If you're so sensitive that some name on a computer you've never met hurts your feelings enough to make you refuse to return to a place, that's something you have to deal with. Amy may be our resident b*tch, but EVERY site everywhere is going to have one. Like I said, when you find an internet that excludes people who suck, let me know.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all.</end quote></div>
And like I said. Many MANY people have told her before. If she hasn't changed yet, she's not going to. I don't see the point of always turning people's threads into Amy arguments, when you know she's not going to change who she is or how she says things to suit other people. Doesn't it completely defeat the purpose of people who don't like her... to always turn other people's threads into attention for Amy? Even if it's negative, I think so. *shrug*
Emily65Roses
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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.</end quote></div>
The thing is, many many people have told her this 1,000 times before. She's heard it. If she hasn't changed, your chances of making her do it now are pretty slim. I don't see the point of arguing when she's made it clear that she's Amy and that's that, no matter who doesn't like it.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her.</end quote></div>
I understand that, but what I'm saying is, it's not up to us. If they want to ban her, they will. If/until that happens, yes, those who don't like her have to work around her.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way. </end quote></div>
While I understand what you're saying with this one, I don't agree at all (not that people have left, I know some have left). There are plenty of people here that piss me off. Most of the time these days, I don't say anything, I just move on. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. People need to grow a thicker skin. I realize not everyone can grow a rhino hide, but if you're going to be online, you're going to come across people that are rude and hurt you. When they invent an internet that bans rude people altogether, someone let me know. In the meantime, people have to learn to work around people that piss them off, or they have to go elsewhere. That's not the fault of anyone but the individual who chooses to leave. Amy didn't put a gun to anyone's head and MAKE them leave. I understand what you're getting at, but the only one that can be blamed in the case of someone leaving is that individual. It is a choice they've made. Whether it's the right one or the wrong one is something they have to deal with.
There have been many times before where I've wanted someone to leave because they were being rude, annoying, immature, condescending, downright f*cking stupid, etc. You name it. But I don't have that power. I've also considered leaving more than once because of certain conversations/events/comments. But if I left, that would be my decision. I have no problem with you these days, but as an example: If I had stopped coming when you suggested Allie and I (I think there were others) change attitudes or leave, I wouldn't have blamed you. It would've been MY choice to leave. People need to accept responsibility for their not being able to deal. And while I don't always agree with Amy (or the way she says things), until she is banned, she has that right. If someone leaves because of something Amy says, that's their issue. If you're so sensitive that some name on a computer you've never met hurts your feelings enough to make you refuse to return to a place, that's something you have to deal with. Amy may be our resident b*tch, but EVERY site everywhere is going to have one. Like I said, when you find an internet that excludes people who suck, let me know.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all.</end quote></div>
And like I said. Many MANY people have told her before. If she hasn't changed yet, she's not going to. I don't see the point of always turning people's threads into Amy arguments, when you know she's not going to change who she is or how she says things to suit other people. Doesn't it completely defeat the purpose of people who don't like her... to always turn other people's threads into attention for Amy? Even if it's negative, I think so. *shrug*
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.</end quote></div>
The thing is, many many people have told her this 1,000 times before. She's heard it. If she hasn't changed, your chances of making her do it now are pretty slim. I don't see the point of arguing when she's made it clear that she's Amy and that's that, no matter who doesn't like it.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her.</end quote></div>
I understand that, but what I'm saying is, it's not up to us. If they want to ban her, they will. If/until that happens, yes, those who don't like her have to work around her.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way. </end quote></div>
While I understand what you're saying with this one, I don't agree at all (not that people have left, I know some have left). There are plenty of people here that piss me off. Most of the time these days, I don't say anything, I just move on. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. People need to grow a thicker skin. I realize not everyone can grow a rhino hide, but if you're going to be online, you're going to come across people that are rude and hurt you. When they invent an internet that bans rude people altogether, someone let me know. In the meantime, people have to learn to work around people that piss them off, or they have to go elsewhere. That's not the fault of anyone but the individual who chooses to leave. Amy didn't put a gun to anyone's head and MAKE them leave. I understand what you're getting at, but the only one that can be blamed in the case of someone leaving is that individual. It is a choice they've made. Whether it's the right one or the wrong one is something they have to deal with.
There have been many times before where I've wanted someone to leave because they were being rude, annoying, immature, condescending, downright f*cking stupid, etc. You name it. But I don't have that power. I've also considered leaving more than once because of certain conversations/events/comments. But if I left, that would be my decision. I have no problem with you these days, but as an example: If I had stopped coming when you suggested Allie and I (I think there were others) change attitudes or leave, I wouldn't have blamed you. It would've been MY choice to leave. People need to accept responsibility for their not being able to deal. And while I don't always agree with Amy (or the way she says things), until she is banned, she has that right. If someone leaves because of something Amy says, that's their issue. If you're so sensitive that some name on a computer you've never met hurts your feelings enough to make you refuse to return to a place, that's something you have to deal with. Amy may be our resident b*tch, but EVERY site everywhere is going to have one. Like I said, when you find an internet that excludes people who suck, let me know.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all.</end quote></div>
And like I said. Many MANY people have told her before. If she hasn't changed yet, she's not going to. I don't see the point of always turning people's threads into Amy arguments, when you know she's not going to change who she is or how she says things to suit other people. Doesn't it completely defeat the purpose of people who don't like her... to always turn other people's threads into attention for Amy? Even if it's negative, I think so. *shrug*
Emily65Roses
New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.</end quote></div>
The thing is, many many people have told her this 1,000 times before. She's heard it. If she hasn't changed, your chances of making her do it now are pretty slim. I don't see the point of arguing when she's made it clear that she's Amy and that's that, no matter who doesn't like it.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her.</end quote></div>
I understand that, but what I'm saying is, it's not up to us. If they want to ban her, they will. If/until that happens, yes, those who don't like her have to work around her.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way. </end quote></div>
While I understand what you're saying with this one, I don't agree at all (not that people have left, I know some have left). There are plenty of people here that piss me off. Most of the time these days, I don't say anything, I just move on. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. People need to grow a thicker skin. I realize not everyone can grow a rhino hide, but if you're going to be online, you're going to come across people that are rude and hurt you. When they invent an internet that bans rude people altogether, someone let me know. In the meantime, people have to learn to work around people that piss them off, or they have to go elsewhere. That's not the fault of anyone but the individual who chooses to leave. Amy didn't put a gun to anyone's head and MAKE them leave. I understand what you're getting at, but the only one that can be blamed in the case of someone leaving is that individual. It is a choice they've made. Whether it's the right one or the wrong one is something they have to deal with.
There have been many times before where I've wanted someone to leave because they were being rude, annoying, immature, condescending, downright f*cking stupid, etc. You name it. But I don't have that power. I've also considered leaving more than once because of certain conversations/events/comments. But if I left, that would be my decision. I have no problem with you these days, but as an example: If I had stopped coming when you suggested Allie and I (I think there were others) change attitudes or leave, I wouldn't have blamed you. It would've been MY choice to leave. People need to accept responsibility for their not being able to deal. And while I don't always agree with Amy (or the way she says things), until she is banned, she has that right. If someone leaves because of something Amy says, that's their issue. If you're so sensitive that some name on a computer you've never met hurts your feelings enough to make you refuse to return to a place, that's something you have to deal with. Amy may be our resident b*tch, but EVERY site everywhere is going to have one. Like I said, when you find an internet that excludes people who suck, let me know.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all.</end quote></div>
And like I said. Many MANY people have told her before. If she hasn't changed yet, she's not going to. I don't see the point of always turning people's threads into Amy arguments, when you know she's not going to change who she is or how she says things to suit other people. Doesn't it completely defeat the purpose of people who don't like her... to always turn other people's threads into attention for Amy? Even if it's negative, I think so. *shrug*
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.</end quote></div>
The thing is, many many people have told her this 1,000 times before. She's heard it. If she hasn't changed, your chances of making her do it now are pretty slim. I don't see the point of arguing when she's made it clear that she's Amy and that's that, no matter who doesn't like it.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her.</end quote></div>
I understand that, but what I'm saying is, it's not up to us. If they want to ban her, they will. If/until that happens, yes, those who don't like her have to work around her.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way. </end quote></div>
While I understand what you're saying with this one, I don't agree at all (not that people have left, I know some have left). There are plenty of people here that piss me off. Most of the time these days, I don't say anything, I just move on. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. People need to grow a thicker skin. I realize not everyone can grow a rhino hide, but if you're going to be online, you're going to come across people that are rude and hurt you. When they invent an internet that bans rude people altogether, someone let me know. In the meantime, people have to learn to work around people that piss them off, or they have to go elsewhere. That's not the fault of anyone but the individual who chooses to leave. Amy didn't put a gun to anyone's head and MAKE them leave. I understand what you're getting at, but the only one that can be blamed in the case of someone leaving is that individual. It is a choice they've made. Whether it's the right one or the wrong one is something they have to deal with.
There have been many times before where I've wanted someone to leave because they were being rude, annoying, immature, condescending, downright f*cking stupid, etc. You name it. But I don't have that power. I've also considered leaving more than once because of certain conversations/events/comments. But if I left, that would be my decision. I have no problem with you these days, but as an example: If I had stopped coming when you suggested Allie and I (I think there were others) change attitudes or leave, I wouldn't have blamed you. It would've been MY choice to leave. People need to accept responsibility for their not being able to deal. And while I don't always agree with Amy (or the way she says things), until she is banned, she has that right. If someone leaves because of something Amy says, that's their issue. If you're so sensitive that some name on a computer you've never met hurts your feelings enough to make you refuse to return to a place, that's something you have to deal with. Amy may be our resident b*tch, but EVERY site everywhere is going to have one. Like I said, when you find an internet that excludes people who suck, let me know.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all.</end quote></div>
And like I said. Many MANY people have told her before. If she hasn't changed yet, she's not going to. I don't see the point of always turning people's threads into Amy arguments, when you know she's not going to change who she is or how she says things to suit other people. Doesn't it completely defeat the purpose of people who don't like her... to always turn other people's threads into attention for Amy? Even if it's negative, I think so. *shrug*
Emily65Roses
New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.</end quote>
The thing is, many many people have told her this 1,000 times before. She's heard it. If she hasn't changed, your chances of making her do it now are pretty slim. I don't see the point of arguing when she's made it clear that she's Amy and that's that, no matter who doesn't like it.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her.</end quote>
I understand that, but what I'm saying is, it's not up to us. If they want to ban her, they will. If/until that happens, yes, those who don't like her have to work around her.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way. </end quote>
While I understand what you're saying with this one, I don't agree at all (not that people have left, I know some have left). There are plenty of people here that piss me off. Most of the time these days, I don't say anything, I just move on. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. People need to grow a thicker skin. I realize not everyone can grow a rhino hide, but if you're going to be online, you're going to come across people that are rude and hurt you. When they invent an internet that bans rude people altogether, someone let me know. In the meantime, people have to learn to work around people that piss them off, or they have to go elsewhere. That's not the fault of anyone but the individual who chooses to leave. Amy didn't put a gun to anyone's head and MAKE them leave. I understand what you're getting at, but the only one that can be blamed in the case of someone leaving is that individual. It is a choice they've made. Whether it's the right one or the wrong one is something they have to deal with.
There have been many times before where I've wanted someone to leave because they were being rude, annoying, immature, condescending, downright f*cking stupid, etc. You name it. But I don't have that power. I've also considered leaving more than once because of certain conversations/events/comments. But if I left, that would be my decision. I have no problem with you these days, but as an example: If I had stopped coming when you suggested Allie and I (I think there were others) change attitudes or leave, I wouldn't have blamed you. It would've been MY choice to leave. People need to accept responsibility for their not being able to deal. And while I don't always agree with Amy (or the way she says things), until she is banned, she has that right. If someone leaves because of something Amy says, that's their issue. If you're so sensitive that some name on a computer you've never met hurts your feelings enough to make you refuse to return to a place, that's something you have to deal with. Amy may be our resident b*tch, but EVERY site everywhere is going to have one. Like I said, when you find an internet that excludes people who suck, let me know.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all.</end quote>
And like I said. Many MANY people have told her before. If she hasn't changed yet, she's not going to. I don't see the point of always turning people's threads into Amy arguments, when you know she's not going to change who she is or how she says things to suit other people. Doesn't it completely defeat the purpose of people who don't like her... to always turn other people's threads into attention for Amy? Even if it's negative, I think so. *shrug*
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.</end quote>
The thing is, many many people have told her this 1,000 times before. She's heard it. If she hasn't changed, your chances of making her do it now are pretty slim. I don't see the point of arguing when she's made it clear that she's Amy and that's that, no matter who doesn't like it.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her.</end quote>
I understand that, but what I'm saying is, it's not up to us. If they want to ban her, they will. If/until that happens, yes, those who don't like her have to work around her.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way. </end quote>
While I understand what you're saying with this one, I don't agree at all (not that people have left, I know some have left). There are plenty of people here that piss me off. Most of the time these days, I don't say anything, I just move on. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. People need to grow a thicker skin. I realize not everyone can grow a rhino hide, but if you're going to be online, you're going to come across people that are rude and hurt you. When they invent an internet that bans rude people altogether, someone let me know. In the meantime, people have to learn to work around people that piss them off, or they have to go elsewhere. That's not the fault of anyone but the individual who chooses to leave. Amy didn't put a gun to anyone's head and MAKE them leave. I understand what you're getting at, but the only one that can be blamed in the case of someone leaving is that individual. It is a choice they've made. Whether it's the right one or the wrong one is something they have to deal with.
There have been many times before where I've wanted someone to leave because they were being rude, annoying, immature, condescending, downright f*cking stupid, etc. You name it. But I don't have that power. I've also considered leaving more than once because of certain conversations/events/comments. But if I left, that would be my decision. I have no problem with you these days, but as an example: If I had stopped coming when you suggested Allie and I (I think there were others) change attitudes or leave, I wouldn't have blamed you. It would've been MY choice to leave. People need to accept responsibility for their not being able to deal. And while I don't always agree with Amy (or the way she says things), until she is banned, she has that right. If someone leaves because of something Amy says, that's their issue. If you're so sensitive that some name on a computer you've never met hurts your feelings enough to make you refuse to return to a place, that's something you have to deal with. Amy may be our resident b*tch, but EVERY site everywhere is going to have one. Like I said, when you find an internet that excludes people who suck, let me know.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all.</end quote>
And like I said. Many MANY people have told her before. If she hasn't changed yet, she's not going to. I don't see the point of always turning people's threads into Amy arguments, when you know she's not going to change who she is or how she says things to suit other people. Doesn't it completely defeat the purpose of people who don't like her... to always turn other people's threads into attention for Amy? Even if it's negative, I think so. *shrug*
Emily65Roses
New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.</end quote>
The thing is, many many people have told her this 1,000 times before. She's heard it. If she hasn't changed, your chances of making her do it now are pretty slim. I don't see the point of arguing when she's made it clear that she's Amy and that's that, no matter who doesn't like it.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her.</end quote>
I understand that, but what I'm saying is, it's not up to us. If they want to ban her, they will. If/until that happens, yes, those who don't like her have to work around her.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way. </end quote>
While I understand what you're saying with this one, I don't agree at all (not that people have left, I know some have left). There are plenty of people here that piss me off. Most of the time these days, I don't say anything, I just move on. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. People need to grow a thicker skin. I realize not everyone can grow a rhino hide, but if you're going to be online, you're going to come across people that are rude and hurt you. When they invent an internet that bans rude people altogether, someone let me know. In the meantime, people have to learn to work around people that piss them off, or they have to go elsewhere. That's not the fault of anyone but the individual who chooses to leave. Amy didn't put a gun to anyone's head and MAKE them leave. I understand what you're getting at, but the only one that can be blamed in the case of someone leaving is that individual. It is a choice they've made. Whether it's the right one or the wrong one is something they have to deal with.
There have been many times before where I've wanted someone to leave because they were being rude, annoying, immature, condescending, downright f*cking stupid, etc. You name it. But I don't have that power. I've also considered leaving more than once because of certain conversations/events/comments. But if I left, that would be my decision. I have no problem with you these days, but as an example: If I had stopped coming when you suggested Allie and I (I think there were others) change attitudes or leave, I wouldn't have blamed you. It would've been MY choice to leave. People need to accept responsibility for their not being able to deal. And while I don't always agree with Amy (or the way she says things), until she is banned, she has that right. If someone leaves because of something Amy says, that's their issue. If you're so sensitive that some name on a computer you've never met hurts your feelings enough to make you refuse to return to a place, that's something you have to deal with. Amy may be our resident b*tch, but EVERY site everywhere is going to have one. Like I said, when you find an internet that excludes people who suck, let me know.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all.</end quote>
And like I said. Many MANY people have told her before. If she hasn't changed yet, she's not going to. I don't see the point of always turning people's threads into Amy arguments, when you know she's not going to change who she is or how she says things to suit other people. Doesn't it completely defeat the purpose of people who don't like her... to always turn other people's threads into attention for Amy? Even if it's negative, I think so. *shrug*
But when MOST of the time, you are offending MOST of the people, it's time to stop for a minute and take a look at yourself and your purpose. Sharing a veiw that isn't a popular one isn't always easy, but you can share and stand up for the "non-popular" side of things without being rude and disrespectful.</end quote>
The thing is, many many people have told her this 1,000 times before. She's heard it. If she hasn't changed, your chances of making her do it now are pretty slim. I don't see the point of arguing when she's made it clear that she's Amy and that's that, no matter who doesn't like it.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>And I wouldn't be so sure of the fact that those of us who dont' like her will just have to work around her.</end quote>
I understand that, but what I'm saying is, it's not up to us. If they want to ban her, they will. If/until that happens, yes, those who don't like her have to work around her.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>more and more people leave here because of her and people shouldn't have to feel that way. </end quote>
While I understand what you're saying with this one, I don't agree at all (not that people have left, I know some have left). There are plenty of people here that piss me off. Most of the time these days, I don't say anything, I just move on. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. People need to grow a thicker skin. I realize not everyone can grow a rhino hide, but if you're going to be online, you're going to come across people that are rude and hurt you. When they invent an internet that bans rude people altogether, someone let me know. In the meantime, people have to learn to work around people that piss them off, or they have to go elsewhere. That's not the fault of anyone but the individual who chooses to leave. Amy didn't put a gun to anyone's head and MAKE them leave. I understand what you're getting at, but the only one that can be blamed in the case of someone leaving is that individual. It is a choice they've made. Whether it's the right one or the wrong one is something they have to deal with.
There have been many times before where I've wanted someone to leave because they were being rude, annoying, immature, condescending, downright f*cking stupid, etc. You name it. But I don't have that power. I've also considered leaving more than once because of certain conversations/events/comments. But if I left, that would be my decision. I have no problem with you these days, but as an example: If I had stopped coming when you suggested Allie and I (I think there were others) change attitudes or leave, I wouldn't have blamed you. It would've been MY choice to leave. People need to accept responsibility for their not being able to deal. And while I don't always agree with Amy (or the way she says things), until she is banned, she has that right. If someone leaves because of something Amy says, that's their issue. If you're so sensitive that some name on a computer you've never met hurts your feelings enough to make you refuse to return to a place, that's something you have to deal with. Amy may be our resident b*tch, but EVERY site everywhere is going to have one. Like I said, when you find an internet that excludes people who suck, let me know.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>probably have a bigger audiance and bigger impact if she's just a tad nicer. That's all.</end quote>
And like I said. Many MANY people have told her before. If she hasn't changed yet, she's not going to. I don't see the point of always turning people's threads into Amy arguments, when you know she's not going to change who she is or how she says things to suit other people. Doesn't it completely defeat the purpose of people who don't like her... to always turn other people's threads into attention for Amy? Even if it's negative, I think so. *shrug*
kayleesgrandma
New member
I told myself to leave this thread alone--but of course, I don't listen to myself...
I find I'm in the unique position of defending Amy--I think there has been an overreaction to Amy's first reply about being "selfless." As Lindsey, Emily, and Nicole pointed out, this has become ridiculous--the whole thread has now become about Amy. I'm sure spacemom has bowed out horror at the way this thread has gone.
As Amy said--AS SHE HAS ALWAYS SAID--she thinks having a child if you have CF, or if you think there is a chance the child will be born with CF--is selfish. What is wrong with looking at it from that perspective? If you disagree with that opinion, that is fine, but there is no need to attack her personally. Also, there was no need to feel that Amy attacked you personally--as in "OMG, she said I was selfish...!" Amy is trying to speak from what she thinks a child's perspective would be.
I think the response of Tara was dignified and respectful, and turned Amy's words back on her without insulting her. Tara's(way) was another way to look at it. As was mentioned earlier, because some of you are going on and on about Amy, we aren't even able to read other interesting perspectives about the original question.
Lindsey, Light, Mel, and a few others kept trying to turn the post back to the original question, to no avail. If we can't talk about the original question, then what is the point?? Another thread will get blocked <b>because of the fighting</b>...now THAT'S what will drive people away--not Amy's remarks...
I find I'm in the unique position of defending Amy--I think there has been an overreaction to Amy's first reply about being "selfless." As Lindsey, Emily, and Nicole pointed out, this has become ridiculous--the whole thread has now become about Amy. I'm sure spacemom has bowed out horror at the way this thread has gone.
As Amy said--AS SHE HAS ALWAYS SAID--she thinks having a child if you have CF, or if you think there is a chance the child will be born with CF--is selfish. What is wrong with looking at it from that perspective? If you disagree with that opinion, that is fine, but there is no need to attack her personally. Also, there was no need to feel that Amy attacked you personally--as in "OMG, she said I was selfish...!" Amy is trying to speak from what she thinks a child's perspective would be.
I think the response of Tara was dignified and respectful, and turned Amy's words back on her without insulting her. Tara's(way) was another way to look at it. As was mentioned earlier, because some of you are going on and on about Amy, we aren't even able to read other interesting perspectives about the original question.
Lindsey, Light, Mel, and a few others kept trying to turn the post back to the original question, to no avail. If we can't talk about the original question, then what is the point?? Another thread will get blocked <b>because of the fighting</b>...now THAT'S what will drive people away--not Amy's remarks...
kayleesgrandma
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I told myself to leave this thread alone--but of course, I don't listen to myself...
I find I'm in the unique position of defending Amy--I think there has been an overreaction to Amy's first reply about being "selfless." As Lindsey, Emily, and Nicole pointed out, this has become ridiculous--the whole thread has now become about Amy. I'm sure spacemom has bowed out horror at the way this thread has gone.
As Amy said--AS SHE HAS ALWAYS SAID--she thinks having a child if you have CF, or if you think there is a chance the child will be born with CF--is selfish. What is wrong with looking at it from that perspective? If you disagree with that opinion, that is fine, but there is no need to attack her personally. Also, there was no need to feel that Amy attacked you personally--as in "OMG, she said I was selfish...!" Amy is trying to speak from what she thinks a child's perspective would be.
I think the response of Tara was dignified and respectful, and turned Amy's words back on her without insulting her. Tara's(way) was another way to look at it. As was mentioned earlier, because some of you are going on and on about Amy, we aren't even able to read other interesting perspectives about the original question.
Lindsey, Light, Mel, and a few others kept trying to turn the post back to the original question, to no avail. If we can't talk about the original question, then what is the point?? Another thread will get blocked <b>because of the fighting</b>...now THAT'S what will drive people away--not Amy's remarks...
I find I'm in the unique position of defending Amy--I think there has been an overreaction to Amy's first reply about being "selfless." As Lindsey, Emily, and Nicole pointed out, this has become ridiculous--the whole thread has now become about Amy. I'm sure spacemom has bowed out horror at the way this thread has gone.
As Amy said--AS SHE HAS ALWAYS SAID--she thinks having a child if you have CF, or if you think there is a chance the child will be born with CF--is selfish. What is wrong with looking at it from that perspective? If you disagree with that opinion, that is fine, but there is no need to attack her personally. Also, there was no need to feel that Amy attacked you personally--as in "OMG, she said I was selfish...!" Amy is trying to speak from what she thinks a child's perspective would be.
I think the response of Tara was dignified and respectful, and turned Amy's words back on her without insulting her. Tara's(way) was another way to look at it. As was mentioned earlier, because some of you are going on and on about Amy, we aren't even able to read other interesting perspectives about the original question.
Lindsey, Light, Mel, and a few others kept trying to turn the post back to the original question, to no avail. If we can't talk about the original question, then what is the point?? Another thread will get blocked <b>because of the fighting</b>...now THAT'S what will drive people away--not Amy's remarks...