Wow! Lots of negativity going on here right now!

beleache

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<p><div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><em>Originally posted by: <strong>marcijo</strong></em> This post is not to anyone specifically-but it seems like lately there have been a lot of posts bashing other people's thoughts, statements,etc...and has given me a really negative feeling about these CF forums.
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<p>Everyone is entitled to post about how they feel without being bashed by others! I just think things can be said a little nicer. After all,we ALL have CF and we all have our good and bad days, right? And we are all entitled to them and should be able to share (and others should be able to respond) without it causing a big blowup!
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<p>Can't we all just get along?? <img alt="" /> I guess if we did the world would be a boring place.
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<p>You are absolutely right Marci !! But in the meantime dont let anyones bad behavior ruin anything for you.. Sometimes ppl just dont think before they speak . I try to let it go in one ear & out the other lol
<p>Take care <img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0"> joni
 

JennifersHope

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I agree that we should all be able to say how we feel and share our hearts without being called out on the carpet for it. I hate confrontation and we are all at different places in our lives and I don't think anyone should tell anyone what to do, I think it could come across in suggestions etc.

Now group hug, within three feet of each other for all the Cfers.
 

JennifersHope

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I agree that we should all be able to say how we feel and share our hearts without being called out on the carpet for it. I hate confrontation and we are all at different places in our lives and I don't think anyone should tell anyone what to do, I think it could come across in suggestions etc.

Now group hug, within three feet of each other for all the Cfers.
 

JennifersHope

New member
I agree that we should all be able to say how we feel and share our hearts without being called out on the carpet for it. I hate confrontation and we are all at different places in our lives and I don't think anyone should tell anyone what to do, I think it could come across in suggestions etc.
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<br />Now group hug, within three feet of each other for all the Cfers.
 
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marcijo

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You made me laugh Jennifer with the 3 feet hug <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Re-reading my most, I just realized that negativity is not the word I was trying to use...the word I was looking for was "disrespectful". People can say that they don't agree with what others are saying...but please be respectful of others. I realize that we all have our differences....that is what makes us individuals....but we all need to respect each other.

We all either are going through or know someone going through CF....we need to stick together!

Anyways-vent over....just thought it needed to be said and now I'm done! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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marcijo

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You made me laugh Jennifer with the 3 feet hug <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Re-reading my most, I just realized that negativity is not the word I was trying to use...the word I was looking for was "disrespectful". People can say that they don't agree with what others are saying...but please be respectful of others. I realize that we all have our differences....that is what makes us individuals....but we all need to respect each other.

We all either are going through or know someone going through CF....we need to stick together!

Anyways-vent over....just thought it needed to be said and now I'm done! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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marcijo

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You made me laugh Jennifer with the 3 feet hug <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
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<br />Re-reading my most, I just realized that negativity is not the word I was trying to use...the word I was looking for was "disrespectful". People can say that they don't agree with what others are saying...but please be respectful of others. I realize that we all have our differences....that is what makes us individuals....but we all need to respect each other.
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<br />We all either are going through or know someone going through CF....we need to stick together!
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<br />Anyways-vent over....just thought it needed to be said and now I'm done! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

Shine

Member
Awwwww group hug...??? Yay! Count me in <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> *BIG TEDDY HUGS* to everyone on this site! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 

Shine

Member
Awwwww group hug...??? Yay! Count me in <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> *BIG TEDDY HUGS* to everyone on this site! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 

Shine

Member
Awwwww group hug...??? Yay! Count me in <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> *BIG TEDDY HUGS* to everyone on this site! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 
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windex125

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Chg. to Yahoo setup pls it took me years to figure this out... I agree with the others with any forum you will have a difference of oponion and issues get heated. As we all respond we show how we are feeling on any particular situation if not just don't respond. Like changing the channel. We won't agree on everything and that is what makes it interesting sometimes it's not always abt. meds/treatments but personal venting on how we are feeling that helps alot as well, as speaking for me it's the one area I am lacking speaking abt. how I am feeling mentally and struggling everyday, but everyone thinks Pat is just doing great all the time, after all that's the image I project most times. I have a friend who calls me once a week to complain abt her back or bad feet every week it starts out with oh this weather, next 20mins it's all abt. her and I sit and listen OMG - ahh I am off track her. What I mean to say is I think it's healthy occassionally. We all relate it's our place. I'm thankful for it. Pat-56 CF
 
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windex125

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Chg. to Yahoo setup pls it took me years to figure this out... I agree with the others with any forum you will have a difference of oponion and issues get heated. As we all respond we show how we are feeling on any particular situation if not just don't respond. Like changing the channel. We won't agree on everything and that is what makes it interesting sometimes it's not always abt. meds/treatments but personal venting on how we are feeling that helps alot as well, as speaking for me it's the one area I am lacking speaking abt. how I am feeling mentally and struggling everyday, but everyone thinks Pat is just doing great all the time, after all that's the image I project most times. I have a friend who calls me once a week to complain abt her back or bad feet every week it starts out with oh this weather, next 20mins it's all abt. her and I sit and listen OMG - ahh I am off track her. What I mean to say is I think it's healthy occassionally. We all relate it's our place. I'm thankful for it. Pat-56 CF
 
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windex125

Guest
Chg. to Yahoo setup pls it took me years to figure this out... I agree with the others with any forum you will have a difference of oponion and issues get heated. As we all respond we show how we are feeling on any particular situation if not just don't respond. Like changing the channel. We won't agree on everything and that is what makes it interesting sometimes it's not always abt. meds/treatments but personal venting on how we are feeling that helps alot as well, as speaking for me it's the one area I am lacking speaking abt. how I am feeling mentally and struggling everyday, but everyone thinks Pat is just doing great all the time, after all that's the image I project most times. I have a friend who calls me once a week to complain abt her back or bad feet every week it starts out with oh this weather, next 20mins it's all abt. her and I sit and listen OMG - ahh I am off track her. What I mean to say is I think it's healthy occassionally. We all relate it's our place. I'm thankful for it. Pat-56 CF
 

Printer

Active member
OK, I'll jump in here.
When someone posts about CF being a BUSINESS and stating that there is no such disease, THAT IS OFFENSIVE.  It is equally OFFENSIVE that people here find that that post is welcome on this forum.
I'm fairly new here and I have viewed this site as a "support group".
As someone who has suffered from CF for over 71 years, I reserve the right to take an offensive position to this type of posting and to those who support them.  I would find that opinion offensive in any setting.
If that is negative, so be it.
 
Bill
 
 
 

Printer

Active member
OK, I'll jump in here.
When someone posts about CF being a BUSINESS and stating that there is no such disease, THAT IS OFFENSIVE. It is equally OFFENSIVE that people here find that that post is welcome on this forum.
I'm fairly new here and I have viewed this site as a "support group".
As someone who has suffered from CF for over 71 years, I reserve the right to take an offensive position to this type of posting and to those who support them. I would find that opinion offensive in any setting.
If that is negative, so be it.

Bill
 

Printer

Active member
<p>OK, I'll jump in here.
<p>When someone posts about CF being a BUSINESS and stating that there is no such disease, THAT IS OFFENSIVE. It is equally OFFENSIVE that people here find that that post is welcome on this forum.
<p>I'm fairly new here and I have viewed this site as a "support group".
<p>As someone who has suffered from CF for over 71 years, I reserve the right to take an offensive position to this type of posting and to those who support them. I would find that opinion offensive in any setting.
<p>If that is negative, so be it.
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<p>Bill
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marcijo

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Hi Bill- I hadn't read that post yet so I went back and read the "CF is a business post"....and yes-I think we all become offensive at that post-because we know CF is a disease...not a business. We live it every day.
I hadn't read that post when I was talking about being negative and disrespectful.
I think that is one thing that we can all agree on, thatCF is a disease and not a business -as the poster stated.
 
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marcijo

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Hi Bill- I hadn't read that post yet so I went back and read the "CF is a business post"....and yes-I think we all become offensive at that post-because we know CF is a disease...not a business. We live it every day.
I hadn't read that post when I was talking about being negative and disrespectful.
I think that is one thing that we can all agree on, thatCF is a disease and not a business -as the poster stated.
 
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marcijo

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<p>Hi Bill- <br /><br />I hadn't read that post yet so I went back and read the "CF is a business post"....and yes-I think we all become offensive at that post-because we know CF is a disease...not a business. We live it every day.
<p>I hadn't read that post when I was talking about being negative and disrespectful.
<p><br />I think that is one thing that we can all agree on, thatCF is a disease and not a business -as the poster stated.
 

Havoc

New member
He has a point, though. I think maybe some of it got lost in translation, because English is obviously not his first language. While I do think CF is a legitimate disease, it's also a HUGE business. As are AIDS, cancer, heart disease and more recently, psychological problems. I read a statistic recently ( the numbers I can't remember), but there are a staggering number of Americans on psychotropic meds (SSRI's TCA's MAOI's atypicals). I know personally they tried me on lots of those meds when I began having insomnia and they either made it worse or didn't do anything at all. Pharmaceutical companies are now marketing to the patients. Years ago they spoke with the docs, now you can't watch TV for 15 minutes without seeing a commercial for a medication and be prompted to ask your doctor about prescribing it. You bet your ass it's a business. The point he was trying to make, I think, is that it's ridiculous the amount of time spent in clinics and medications that CFers are required to take. Me for example, 70 miles to the nearest clinic at $4.00/gallon of gasoline. Copays between $5-$30 for medications and $20 for specialist visits. And it's getting worse now that the CF docs are farming out everything that isn't pulmonary. Now I have a sleep specialist, an ENT surgeon, an orthopedist and my PCP, all with their own copays and all the same 70 miles (with the exception of my PCP, which is 30) away. I cut waaay down on the medications that I take. Basically I cut everything but the enzymes and my sleep meds (valium). I have inhalers that I use if needed, which rarely happens. I also use Flonase in allergy season. That's it. I also cut my clinic time, I go to clinic about once a year. The strange thing is that after cutting out a lot of the medications, my health improved. My PFT's went up, my weight went up. Also, when I switched to Creon, I cut the dose drastically. I realize that there's 400 extra units of Lipase, but I went from 8-10 Zenpep 20 to 3 Creon 24's, with no ill effects. Obviously, I didn't need all the medications they were giving me (I think at one point I was up to 10 different meds). It was nothing to spend close to $200/month for just Rx copays. Here's my problem with this forum. When that thread came up, everyone got their knickers in a twist and flamed the crap out of that poor guy. To the point of him leaving the site. Leave your bloody emotions at the door. Did anyone think to direct him to some literature that explained CF, especially something in his first language? Maybe the doc he took his daughter to did a horrible job at explaining things, maybe he wasn't even a CF doc. Many of the people that flamed on that thread are the same people I've seen preach "this is a support site" on other threads. If that guy is in denial, or if he's just overwhelmed at the cost of caring for a child with CF, you failed miserably at trying to offer him support. Of course, since he is no longer here, we won't know. I find it ridiculous that a person would respond that way because they were offended. What a load of sh*t. Are you really so sensitive? A lot of you really need to develop a brain/mouth filter and keep posts relevant and supported by facts. Unless of course someone asks for some kind of emotional response. I want you all to think really hard about what you said and think about how much your venomous words might cost his daughter. A story I think is appropriate here comes from a woman who was incarcerated in Auschwitz. Her family was taken there and on the train and she noticed her brother did not have his shoes on. She said to him "how could you be so stupid and not wear your shoes." She was the only one to survive the concentration camp and had to live the rest of her life knowing that the last thing she said to her brother was admonishment. When she was set free, she vowed never to say anything that couldn't stand for the last thing she ever said to somebody. I think we should all try to live up to that standard.
 
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