Here's what I've got to say for myself

Emily65Roses

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>SeanDavis</b></i>
You got the attention you wanted, you showed your capacity for logical thought, but you had to make another thread to get double the dose of something you claim you want to be removed from the site. I thought it was a given that certain people knew other certain people on here didn't like them and vice versa, and it sure as hell didn't deserve two different threads on the matter.</end quote></div>

I have to speak up quick on this. A lot of people requested that she explain herself. I don't think she did anything wrong in making this second thread. The first one is another story, but this one was requested by many.

Hah I can be reasonable... well imagine that.
 

julie

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>There you go again -- blaming the new members. Gee, no wonder some of us lurk and don't feel comfortable joining. Because then we'd be new members -- we'd be the ones causing all the trouble -- the discord on this site.</end quote></div>

You misread my post. What I was referring to when I said new members was that it's the newer members that seem to be getting attacked and their posts/questions torn apart. I didn't say the newbies were causing the problems, said they feel the brunt of these ongoing problems. Don't hold me responsible for why you don't want to sign on though. I am sorry you feel that way, but as you stated you've lurked for a while now. Don't hold me accountable for that, be accountable for your own decisions.

Christian, I though about, "If i post this, am I just stooping to the levle of the frustration I will be discussing?" And I thought, there is potential for that, but nevertheless, I still have to say how I am feeling. I haven't stated I hate anyone, others such as Littledebbie are the ones who have stated "there it is, I don't like you and you don't like me" and put words in my mouth. I don't like the posting that has been going on from those particular people for a while now, I never said anything about THEM. There is a difference. You can love a person but dislike their behavior.
 

Faust

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Emily65Roses</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>SeanDavis</b></i>

You got the attention you wanted, you showed your capacity for logical thought, but you had to make another thread to get double the dose of something you claim you want to be removed from the site. I thought it was a given that certain people knew other certain people on here didn't like them and vice versa, and it sure as hell didn't deserve two different threads on the matter.</end quote></div>



I have to speak up quick on this. A lot of people requested that she explain herself. I don't think she did anything wrong in making this second thread. The first one is another story, but this one was requested by many.



Hah I can be reasonable... well imagine that.</end quote></div>



OMG WHY!?!?!

/douses self with gas and lights a match
 

sarabeth87

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I, personally, have never felt offended by anyone on here. The people that Julie named are blunt and honest. They don't sugar coat things, and people have to learn to accept things the way they are, or they are gonna be in for a rude awakening. Just my opinion.
 

anonymous

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Julie!!!!
Quit talking!!!!!!!!!!! You are not making sense and you are not thinking rationally...Let yourself for one minute consider losing your husband...the pain that would cause. Raising children without a father....losing the love of your life. Believe me, if you put yourself in that position you might tell yourself to "SHUT UP!!!!!"
 
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>

[Q You can love a person but dislike their behavior.</end quote></div>

Yes Julie I certainly can feel the love emanating from you at every turn.

*hence sarcasm in case anyone is oblivious*

Emilee
 

thelizardqueen

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Julie - I'd really like to know why I was mentioned in your list of people who should consider going elsewhere? I've never once been rude to anyone on this board. Not once. Is it because I have a different opinion then yours? Is it because I usually always agree with Emily, Debbie, Sean, Allie, and whoever else you mentioned that I've forgotten? I'm not sorry that I'm honest with my opinions, I'm not sorry that I don't sugar coat things. Enlighten me, please. I've always offered a ton of advice to people. I've always been there for them when they've needed me. I hate to toot my own horn, but I actually think that I'm very nice, and if anything I've been pulling my punches back somewhat. I could be brutally honest with people if you'd like, I could be even more honest with them even without coming off as rude, but then again you don't like my honesty, so maybe I should keep pulling my punches back like I have been. Julie, I've never had a problem with you, but now that you've pointed fingers at me I'm definitly seeing you in a different light. Maybe once you've had your millions of babies, your hormones will calm down, and you won't think that you have to take it upon yourself to police this site. Just me being honest. Take it or leave it with a grain of salt.

And Ps. This is still me holding back.
 

RoyalPrince

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>anonymous</b></i>

There you go again -- blaming the new members. Gee, no wonder some of us lurk and don't feel comfortable joining. Because then we'd be new members -- we'd be the ones causing all the trouble -- the discord on this site.</end quote></div>


ahhhhhhh... come on in anonymous, the water is fine... haha its ok to be a new member... just jump in with both feet and join the fun...<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 

miesl

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Really, your replies has only cemented the two things I have left to say to you.

1. Bite me. I had no problem with you before this. Congratulations on furthering the divide on the boards.

2. I hope you're proud of yourself for hurting people when they needed comfort. It's nice to see that you have compassion for the new posters but none for the existing.
 

anonymous

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>

And why is everyone making this about Allie? </end quote></div>

Probably because you've spent the better part of your day singling her out for attack. And you probably did that because you know that she, unlike some others, isn't likely to punch you in the nose in response.
 

JennifersHope

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I think there has always been arguing on here, but we always pulled together when we needed support.. I think of Allen when I think of heated conversations........ I don't think it is a person.. just the mood of the board lately.. and since no one really does nor should they fake their mood on here.. this is what happens. Many people including myself use this board as the one place in life where we don't have to perform, fake it, smile when we want to cry etc.. I know I can say what I want here.. and no one says. PUT ON A HAPPY FACE... but if you knew me in my personal life. I am almost always laughing...It is a tough spot to be in on this board, because I think we should use tack when we talk to new parents and at the same time.. I love to be real here...

I think the people that Julie mentioned in her post that she thought were "trouble makers" are all alike in a lot of ways and that is why they get along so well. I don't mean that as a sterotype, if you know what I mean, but I mean that in a good way.

THey all think similiar.. I love chatting with them.. and again, over and over again.. they all have given me so much support... SO MUCH.... I have said it a million times and I will say it again, I talk to EMily a lot,( well I used to till we both got so busy with school.. and I know if I need her she will be there in one second) we don't have the same style on a lot of things, but she always supports me and I think she is pretty amazing and I support her.....Allie and I are not a like either, we don't agree on a lot of things with religion God, etc.. but I think we get along really well..... she is often in my thoughts throughout the day.. and I get teary eyed when I think of her suffering.. Before she even knew me, she offered to help write my resume... That is a lot of work and she is so willing to try to reach out to help others.. in her time of mourning.... Liz I just started talking to but she is so sweet. Julie, I have always liked as well and has been more then willing to be a friend to me.... .

I guess that isn't the point.. the point is.. no one should leave the group.this group would not be the same without those people..they are a valuable part of this board......and if even one of you thinks of leaving.. I am going to show up at your house and yell at you.. I have the time now.., I am almost done with school.... it isn't a "mexican standoff with each other" it is how do we put this behind and keep moving forward.. and now we have hurt feelings...which is even worse now...anyone. I support free speech, though for my own taste, and who I am, and where I am at, I prefer to be spoken to a little more easily then brutal honesty.... I just got a dose of brutal honesty today from a doctor... I would have preferred a little tack but hey.. I can only control how I respond to it..how what is said..

Everyone of us is doing the best we can to cope in the situations we have in life, some of us cope best by being brutally honest, some cope by denial, some cope by seeing the glass half full, some half empty.. the main point is we are trying to cope..and we need each other to get through... I know for me I do.. Really I want to be making a post upset about how crappy I feel and I want to cry to you and tell you .. how crappy my day was..

I do think we should be kind to new parents that come on the board, not saying tht anyone wasn't.. and being kind doesn't mean losing you right to free speech...

Well just what we needed another post on what someone else thinks... sorry..

Jennifer
 

Faust

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>anonymous</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>



And why is everyone making this about Allie? </end quote></div>



Probably because you've spent the better part of your day singling her out for attack. And you probably did that because you know that she, unlike some others, isn't likely to punch you in the nose in response.</end quote></div>



Ever since I started messing with computers and went online, I have prayed to god nightly for him to grant me the ability to punch people through the internet. I don't think it's ever going to be granted though <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">
 

julie

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Julie!!!! Quit talking!!!!!!!!!!! You are not making sense and you are not thinking rationally...Let yourself for one minute consider losing your husband...the pain that would cause. Raising children without a father....losing the love of your life. Believe me, if you put yourself in that position you might tell yourself to "SHUT UP!!!!!" </end quote></div>

I won't quit talking on this thread because it was requested that I expalain myself and I am no *****... here I am, answering the questions people wanted me to.

Don't you think I've considred losing my husband, don't you think I've thought about the pain it would cause. It's very likely I will raise my children without a father, very likely I will grow old without the love of my life. It's a though cookie to swallow, but instead of dwelling on it, I love my husband day in and day out and we make the most of everything together. What's the relevancy of that to this topic? That is was bad timing to call Allie out? I'll agree with you on that one. But it doesn't change how I feel about the situation. And please, maybe have the balls to leave your name.

So Sara, you are saying that the people I named can be blunt and honest, but I can't? Maybe I didn't read your reply correctly. and I'm glad Sean doesn't bother you, but he bother's me when he gets off topic in OTHER peoples thread and takes away from the initial purpose of the thread. He can say whatever he wants in his own thread, and sometimes I even take a peek because I can think he has a sense of humor and drives me crazy at the same time. That's not what I was discussing in the initial thread I started about the problems I was feeling with those I named.

Allie, to answer your question, the comment about "the end result is the same" was just the icing on the cake for me. I don't know if it's been the anticipation of this upcoming month or what but I've noticed for the past few months (AND SHUT UP ANYONE WHO ISN'T ALLIE BECAUSE SHE ASKED FOR THIS EXPLANATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) that you have been brutally honest to the point of it being disresepctful to a number of people, especially those who seem to be new to CF, coming on with lots of questions and not quite understanding all that CF involves. I understand that you want to be honest and share with them the realities of CF, but there is a time and place, and a mom with a newly diagnosed child, or a newly diagnosed CFer or (I can't even remember the last topic that ended in a debate, but maybe I'll look it up so you know waht I am talking about) is not ready for that information volunteered to them. It's different if they ask. I feel that lately you have been rude and not thought many of your comments though and a number of people, myself included have been hurt and offended by them. Just as others discuss how they don't like me/what I say, the same goes for others on this board, and theres been a lot of email and PM discussion lately about what the he*l is going on with your posts. It makes me feel like you aren't here to help anymore. You were so different when you were first on this forum. Makes me wonder if it was all fake? But the bottom line now is all the comments to the newer people of the site. That's where I had it. And it seems like you have a band of people who follow you aroudn or who you follow around. Find with me to have a little posse but you step over a line when you all start chomping on new people, or attacking a certain person for asking a question, and you aren't even attacking the right person for pete's sake.
And for the record, I don't hate you. But I dobut that makes any difference to you right now. I don't like what's going on right now and haven't for a while and a lot of things you have said lately have really ticked me off.

Does that answer the question, if not, let me know. (Allie)
 

Emily65Roses

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>JennifersHope</b></i>
I talk to EMily a lot,( well I used to till we both got so busy with school.. and I know if I need her she will be there in one second) </end quote></div>

Half a second. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">
 

anonymous

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Hey Julie,
I have beeen lurking for some time, when I make a post it's usually Anonymous. And I'd like to say from an onlookers point of view that Julie is right. I never became a regular member of this board because of some of the things Julie is pointing out, or should I say 2 of the people? Anyways I belong to another board with a much friendly more welcoming mix of people, and I'm not the one who made the other post on the family section..I wouldn't put a link to my group, for fear the we would get someone who turns the board into their personal blog....**Pats Julie on the back** it's about time. Maybe now that the board is being sponsered they will try to make it into a more welcoming place for cfers and family.
 

anonymous

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>anonymous</b></i>

Hey Julie,

I have beeen lurking for some time, when I make a post it's usually Anonymous. And I'd like to say from an onlookers point of view that Julie is right. I never became a regular member of this board because of some of the things Julie is pointing out, or should I say 2 of the people? Anyways I belong to another board with a much friendly more welcoming mix of people, and I'm not the one who made the other post on the family section..I wouldn't put a link to my group, for fear the we would get someone who turns the board into their personal blog....**Pats Julie on the back** it's about time. Maybe now that the board is being sponsered they will try to make it into a more welcoming place for cfers and family.</end quote></div>


I agree too, but it's a wall that everyone is talking to now, especially since they're not happy about what was said.
 

anonymous

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oh great!
You're suggesting now that we'll be monitored by a business entity?
And that will bring harmony and peace and openness?
And I would be wondering about if honesty will still be OK.
Will we be able to mention other brands?
Complain about expense of drugs?
Wonder why some drugs are just changed a little teeny tad to keep the generics out?

Always nice for anyone to pay the bills,
but not if one looses one's freedom of speech in the process.....
 

Emily65Roses

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They do ask. If they don't ask and we offer the information, then sure, jump down our throats. Feel free. But they ask. And if they don't want ALL of the truth, they should specify when they ask. Because otherwise, that's what they're going to get.

As for Allie, I am going to say one thing. She wasn't ever fake. If she's gotten "worse," it's because of her situation and what time of the year it is. It's because of what's creeping up on her, ready to pounce and knock the air out of her. I think you, of all people, miss pregnancy hormones, should be able to understand that. Just because she's "different lately" doesn't mean she was ever fake.
 
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