Here's what I've got to say for myself

julie

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Michelle, I do believe Donovan got my joke, which is fine because it was in no way intended for you.

Sure Allie, I can address it.

I've helped tons of people too. But that's not exactly what I am discussing here. I am discussing the things going on the forums, not who you emailed with this and that. I think when you first came on here, you were helpful, shared a lot about yourself and opened up to something that was very difficult. If you look in your archive PM's, you will see that you and I did talk-a good deal of talking actually and you gave me some adoption information and other things. What I was talking about today was this crap that's been going on the last few months. The comments, the disrespect (and again, you and some others may not see it as disrecpect, but I do, and a few others do as well-None of us are always going to agree). You talk about being brutally honest with others and if they can't handle it they are at the wrong place.... it seems though that when the shoe is on the other foot, you become the exception.

I don't know if what you said about crying and being hurt was sarcasm or sincerity. Either way, it was not my intention to do that to you, but I had to finally be honest about how I was feeling about the behaviors and comments on this board. NOw you understand what it is like to be the recipient of such treatment. Not my intention to march out and be rude to you, because if it was, I wuld have choosen some other choice words and comments. But in the context of my message, I did hurt you. Do you see how you do this to others. I am not telling you to sugarcoat things, but for once, stop and think that just as you want others to treat you sensitively, you ought to do the same to others?!?
 

thelizardqueen

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>

I'm getting to it Liz, sorry... a lot of questions for me today.



For all the people that I mentioned that I have a problem with the postings lately, they are all the same. You guys post one after the other, repeating what the previous person in the "posse" just said, only putting your own little twist on it.

<b>So, I should leave because I happen to come after someone that I agree with? I'm sorry that my timing of opinion doesn't agree with you. I only happen to post after Emily or after Debbie, or after Allie, because I happen to read what they say and agree with them. Maybe next time I should read their minds and post my comments before they do. Or maybe I shouldn't post at all. You let me know Julie, m'kay?</b>


There's been a lot of negative or sly comments where there don't need to be-by yourself and the others I mentioned. What I don't understand is why you (and some others) don't just come out with it. Instead of the childish sarcams, how about addressing the real issue?

<b>Hmmm....I tell it like I see it. I've never left any "sly" or "sarcastic" comments when it really mattered. That's just not me. The only sarcastic comments I leave are only when I am joking about something that isn't serious. If I disagree with someone, I give them my opinion, I'm just not rude when I want to be sometimes. So again Julie, please let me know when humour is or is not appreciated, because apparently according to you, I don't know when or when not to be sarcastic.</b>

Also, a lot of taking away from posts that others have started. Hence why I didn't address the issue today in charolett's thread but started another one.

<b>God Julie, you're really making me upset now. I have never, ever taken away from someone's post. I have never taken over a thread, ever. So do not tell me that I do this. Someone posts about something, I leave my advice or comment about said topic and I move on. I honestly would really like you to find a thread where I have taken away from the topic at hand.</b>

I've been guilty of it before, but once it was pointed out, I decided it was rude. It's all just bottled up over the past few months and today I finally had it. Being that I've been feeing this frustration towards you and others for some time now, I cannot recall every single incident (which is my own fault) but I can recall the situations/scenarios that I mentioned above which I feel are disrecpectufl to those affected and make people feel unwelcome.

<b>Again, I've never been rude to anyone, and it seems that everyone else on here can't even understand why you've pointed me out. I've never attacked anyone, I've never taken away from their threads. I've never been unwelcoming to anyone. It seems that for the most part everyone disagrees with you Julie. If I were a disrespectful person, I would be incredibly rude to you right now, but I'm not. I've never been disrepsectful to anyone. I'd honestly like someone to come on here and tell me that I've been disrepectful to them. In fact I encourage it, because I KNOW that I have never been disrespectful.</b>

You guys are like the "attacking posse".

<b>AGAIN, I've never attacked anyone. EVER. But then again, I guess you seem to think that my agreeing with certain people is an attack. So in others words Julie, are you saying that the fact that I agree with certain people, and disagree with others is an attack? Don't even try to come off as saying you know how to act better then everyone, because that's exactly what you're doing right now. Sorry I'm not as "respectful" as you are Julie. But then agian, I don't think its respectful to call people out by name.</b>




That's where my problem lies.

<b>You're right - it is YOUR problem. And I respect that.</b></end quote></div>
 

RoyalPrince

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>miesl</b></i>

RoyalPrince, my comment was in no way directed at you.

</end quote></div>



ok... i couldn't tell.. thanx for clearing

good times all around...
 

anonymous

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>

Littledebbie,




There is a difference, as I've already stated about disliking one's behavior and disliking a person. Maybe the word "hate" isn't as harsh to you as it is to me, but in my family and my circle of friends, "hate" is a really strong word and that is why I am correcting those who assume that I "hate" those whom I mentioned. I don't even know you well enough to like or dislike you as a person. I do know that I don't like your posts lately, same reasons I mentioned for Allie and the lizard queen.

I do feel that people have the right, especially the NEWER people, to come here and not be attacked, to ask questions and get the answers to their questions. I do feel that people new or old on this forum have a right to ask questions and not be attacked by what I am now calling the "posse", consisting of you, and the others I mentioned going around saying the same (usually attacking or disrespectful, snyde comments) things.</end quote></div>

First - I said i don't like you, not that I hate you.

Second - who are these people who have been so attacked. Julie- The only people I can think of that I have had words with have been olders CFers and guess what???... i have worked it out with all of them...(except Ricky..ha ha but thats another issue entirely <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">). Yep, I am an adult and can agree to disagree shake hands and walk away even later agree with them on other issues. Now did I need to tell you we shook hands and made up? Is there a way to cc you on PM?

Also are you saying once someone answers a question no one else should respond because it's been answered? We can't say "I agree" and here's why? Please explain to me the purpose of the forum again? i thought communicating and relating to one another was in there somewhere?
 

Faust

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>








NOw you understand what it is like to be the recipient of such treatment. Not my intention to march out and be rude to you, because if it was, I wuld have choosen some other choice words and comments. But in the context of my message, I did hurt you. Do you see how you do this to others. I am not telling you to sugarcoat things, but for once, stop and think that just as you want others to treat you sensitively, you ought to do the same to others?!?</end quote></div>


Wow so your entire intention behind all of this was a "Well i'll show them", and be vengeful and purposely hurtful, for the only reason of making Allie and the others (not me, sorry you lost in that dept) "how it feels"?


Wow you are an enormously immature female, with deep issues. If you are 1/10 this coniving in real life, I sincerely pitty you.
 

julie

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Glad we got that cleared up Littledebbie, but I have no problem with you, I don't even know you. I do have a problem with a number of your posts.

I keep trying to research all these topics that have gotten me upset lately, but requests keep being made for me to answer questions here. Maybe it will just be put off till tomorrow but I'll answer your question, rest assured.

No I am not saying someone else shouldn't pipe in with an "I agree too and here's why". But I keep seeing these posse posts over and over again (or as emily so affectionately calls it, the "AP") where you will say something, then immediately Allie, then immediately the Lizardqueen, then immediately emily (in various orders each time). It's like you all share a brain and can't think for yourselfs about these things.

I don't think allie and I are having a cat fight, although it could be subject to interpertation. We seem to be having a somewhat civil question and answer going on here.
 

julie

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Sean, I already stated "IT WAS NOT MY INTENTION TO MARCH OUT AND BE RUDE TO YOU, BECAUSE IF IT WAS, I WOULD HAVE CHOOSEN SOME OTHR CHOICE WORDS AND COMMENTS". Surely you can understand that I wasn't posting with the purpose of "we'll show them how it feels". But it appears, from our of Allie's own mouth, that what I said did hurt her.

Not my intention, I just had to state my feelings but in context of my post, something did hurt her feelings.

So, to make it clear one more time for you. NO, that was not my intention. But she did get her feelings hurt, as did others and I just utilized her sharing that fact to say that for once, maybe she should stop and think about how what she says can offend or hurt others, even if it IS NOT her intention to do so.

Can you ever make a comment or post a thread without some sarcasm?
 

anonymous

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cat fight.
know one when i seen one.
my money's on the widow.
bet she'll have enough sense to let your posts hang out here pretty much all by themselves so we can jude for ourselves.

now while your at it, julie.
are there any other people who post on this forum in ways you don't approave of?
wouldn't want to forget anyone ....
 

thelizardqueen

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>



But I keep seeing these posse posts over and over again (or as emily so affectionately calls it, the "AP") where you will say something, then immediately Allie, then immediately the Lizardqueen, then immediately emily (in various orders each time). <b>It's like you all share a brain and can't think for yourselfs about these things.
</b></end quote></div>

No Julie - we don't share a brain, we just happen to have the same opinion. Stuff like that will happen Julie - people will share an opinion. Sorry to burst your bubble. I can't believe you're upset with us because we share an opinion. HOw immature and childish that is Julie. Please tell me this is your hormones raging out of control please. Don't tell me you don't like the fact that we have the same opinion, because that my dear is childish.
 

Allie

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No sarcasm here, Julie, just my levelheaded discussion, as usual.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>You talk about being brutally honest with others and if they can't handle it they are at the wrong place.... it seems though that when the shoe is on the other foot, you become the exception. </end quote></div>

I can can get as good as I give, honestly. if somebody is telling me a verified <i> truth</i>, not an opinion, brutality is fine. I've had people tell me "Well, you knew RY ws going to die." didn't attack them. Hurt? yes. True? Absolutely. You said my last comment was the icing on the cake, so I figured if I found my posts, the last...10 or so on the adult forum should give me an idea of my tone. Here goes.

1. Was me telling Jane I was sorry her kids were sick

2> Was me telling about Ry's work load.

3. blog posting, and then chat....lets not count those, no time for tone. So we jump to the next one, in which I was the only one who helped someone, stating about how the forum had helped me cope.

4. Me saying the gal on deal or no deal was too perky for me, don't consider that rude, but you might, so we'll count it.

5. Me telling someone a converter should work, have a great time in Europe. Turns out I was incorrect, but not rude.

6. Me handing out adoption stories/info

7. me congratulating Courtney on her wish

8. Me giving Debbie weight gaining shake recipes

9. My thread on charities

10. Me correcting about the alcohol circumstances, that two nonCfers were drinking.

So, it makes it hard for me to see where you are coming from. Your opinion doesn't bear out in the finidings. I personally think you just don't like me, and that's fine. So, if it wasn't your intention to march out and be rude to me, what exactly was it? Did you think I would say, "Okay, I'll leave." Honestly, what did you think would spring of this? And yes, I was genuinely hurt, I have never had anyone dislike me so much as to ask me to leave. And yes, this seems to be very personally towards me, and that's fine. I never asked for you to treat me sensitively, others have. Other people have been much ruder than I, but I seem to be your pariah for it, mainly. I suppose I just don't get it. If there's other reasons for you not liking me, you can say them.

Honestly, julie, I don't need you to like me, I have plenty of good people around me, I jsut don't understand why you don't.
 

julie

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You are telling me that you share the same opinion nearly everyday, on nearly every topic? I find that very difficult to believe.

I agree with people on this board, and I disagree with people on this board, and I don't hestiate to post it but you dont' see me always disagreeing or agreeing with the same freaking people.

Anon, call it whatever you want it but this wasn't directed solely at Allie. She was merely a name mentioned. And I don't really care who takes what side here, that isn't what this is about-FOR ME. I stated my opinion and then came back to answer questions that were asked of me. Judge all you want, because then you are just doing exactly what you are accusing me of. Funny how in life you can never really escape the "oximoron" scenario now can you?

If all the questions are done, I am going to go eat some dinner....
 

Faust

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All I needed to see was the last response that I quoted from you. It shows your real underlying motivation for what you posted. I wish all people came with a giant bubble over their head explaining their inner problems, would save much time in delegating who you want to associate with and who you don't.


I'm over the whole thing. Your opinion was given, and some previous suspicions myself and others had about you and especially your character were validated/reenforced. Nothing more needs to be said on my end, you have taken enough of a beating on here.
 

Pete

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Just a suggestion...Tell me if I'm outta line here, can't really speak for SeanDavis (hope ya name isn't copywritten mate) but I reckon he'd be into it as well...

How about a "bout" for CF...ya all seem to be trading punches anyway...I've got some blow-up boxing gloves...

OR...Wrestle-mania for CF....I'm thinking jelly wrestling...but I always am, so whats new...

it seems we all came here with a common interest, for me, it was to find information as a partner of someone with CF....and/or when it comes time, through my angel being sick or worse case, passing on...I know i'll need people who understand or purely just a place to vent on the blog.

If i don't like something thats being written I'll stop reading it...simple as that

If I see something thats just wrong i'll give my opinion, whatever that counts for...and this friends...is just wrong...it makes ya think twice about being here...or involving yourself in discussion.

personalities don't always mix, i've gotta work with some people ALL day that I can't stand...but my philosophy is, live and let live...EVERYONE is entitled to an opinion...if ya don't like it...... move onto the next topic.

Hope everyone is having a fantastic day

Dentists are the spawn of the devil by the way...got a wisdom tooth pulled...and we PAY then to torture us...crazy.

Pete
 

anonymous

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nope.
cat fight or flame war...

you threw the grenade and ran.
luke did the same in the progression thread
flame war...
know them when i see them.
 

julie

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Allie, I understand you don't need me to like you but you'd just like to understand.

I've explained myself and my feelings on the matter and really have nothing more to say in explaining it without becoming repetative. Although I did tell Liz that I will look for some of the posts in the past that really got under my skin-probably a task for tomorrow, although I am going out of town so it might be even longer, but I'll answer the questions for you.

You aren't my main pariah for stating my opinion, just one of the people I mentioned, and you were the first to ask for an explanation of what I posted so I answered your questions. I wasn't going to post and run.

I wasn't sure what would spring of me posting what I did. All I know is what I've seen lately on the boards how it's essential that we be brutally honest on the adult forum and if you can't handle it "get out of the kitchen" and so on. So, I would only assume that those making such comments could handle someone's honest OPINION. Plus, I had to get this off my chest before I posted on someone elses thread and took away from their topic.
 

anonymous

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Flame warriors identify your position in the battle: <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/">http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/</a> .
 

anonymous

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"Bathes in others tears nightly."
I dont like it...
how about, "Bathes in the tears of others nightly."......I dunno, but something just doesn't read right
 

Faust

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>thelizardqueen</b></i>

Sean - I love your new signature. I should add the "Attack Posse" to mine. LOL.</end quote></div>



Please do. Make sure to add a nifty third line like I did about bathing in others tears. You could say your specialty is wounding others inner children.



And that sounds like a blast pete. I'm the type that feels violence does indeed solve things <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Throw beer into the mix, and charge admission, and thats a dandy good time!
 
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