Here's what I've got to say for myself

[miesl]

No, it wasn't directed "solely" at Allie, it was directed at 5 people out of 2446 current registers users, 0.2% of the user group. One of these posters has over 200 posts to her current name (not counting her previous forum name), three have over 1000, and one has over 400.

Guess what. I had zero beef with you until today. Now I'd prefer to never read posts from you. You've managed to do the thing you complained about... you're the troublemaker. You're causing drama. You're the one starting the arguement. In short, you're now the source of the problems you want to leave the board. Good work.

 

[Faust]

Sig is fixed, thanks for the suggestion. It didn't sound right.


/bathes in more tears

 

[LisaV]

I like the "wounding other's inner children" line, sean.
very good.

 

[julie]

Michelle, don't read any of my posts. There's no need for you to state it.

And someone's always got to be the bad guy in bringing to light some things that need to be worked out. So it's me, ok. My life goes on. Those who have alwasy benefited from my posts will continue to, those who haven't, will continue not to and vise versa. Nothing lost or gained from it personally, except maybe... we'll I'll leave it at that, don't want to jinx a situation.

 

[CowTown]

You all will NEVER EVER EVER, NEVER , well possibly at some....no, NEVER EVER agree! Bickering here will continue as we've seen, b/c it just will. The two sides of this will never see things the same way.

Everyone done yet? I think everyone's made their point, I really do. And ya'll will never agree....heard that before?

Unless you are enjoying continuing this thing which it looks like some are, why fight such differences? The world keeps going round.

Glad I'm going to be gone for a while. Maybe there won't be bickering anymore when I get back. Ya think? No..... whatever.

 

[Faust]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>LisaV</b></i>

I like the "wounding other's inner children" line, sean.

very good.</end quote></div>



I think that is Liz' division. I figure if I keep harvesting sorrow I can be promoted into that division. I'm trying my best!

 

[miesl]

No, I have every reason and right to state that.

I really thought you should know that you have managed to alienate people who had no problem with you until today's antics. It's your problem if that doesn't bother you.

 

[Faust]

I always knew I liked this song for a reason, but I never thought it would be my actual online job when I grew up, neato!


<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y166/Zenial/lsd/picg-h/big/harveste.jpg
">http://i5.photobucket.com/albu...cg-h/big/harveste.jpg
</a>

 

[LisaV]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>SeanDavis</b></i>

I always knew I liked this song for a reason, but I never thought it would be my actual online job when I grew up, neato!

</end quote></div>



A childhood dream come true.
I love when that happens.

 

[Allie]

I think the problem is not so much that you said "Here's what you guys are doing, here's some things to think about." I would have been more likely to respond well to that.


But this: <div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I have a solution, why don't we get rid of the people causing the trouble? I know I am going to get it for this, and I'm sorry in advance, but I have to say that Allie, LittleDebbie, TheLizardqueen, SeanDavis and Emily, on occasion since Allie Joined... I have to include you in this list too- are always involved in some sort of arguement on this forum. If we can't get it back to the way it use to be, where there was assistance, help, friendship, support, guidance, information, and KINDNESS, why don't we ask the problem to leave? As a matter of fact, that is what I am requesting right now. </end quote></div>

Madam, you told us to leave the forum because you disagreed with us. Now, if that isn't rude, I am not sure what is. Did you expect us to leave? I mean, we are all long time members of this forum, the newest being LittleDebbie, I believe. And I did note that I was both first on your list, and mentioned twice, so I know you feel personally about me. I do think you intended to stir up drama. Or knew it would, and didn't care. Julie, no one has benefitted from this. And I feel as if I am struggling to explain this to you. Threads like this cause nothing but hurt and discord, and, according to what has been said on this thread, and what has been said to me personally, there's no truth in it.

You may want to reconsider what you've done. A thought.

 

[julie]

If all the questions for me are done (because that's why I started this thread), I think it's pointless to continue anymore. Some of us agree, some of us don't, some agree with a few things, others with nothing. I've made my point, and I've heard all of yours. If there are any more questions, I'm happy to answer them, but otherwise, I am getting back to the forum <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

 

[thelizardqueen]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>SeanDavis</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>thelizardqueen</b></i>



Sean - I love your new signature. I should add the "Attack Posse" to mine. LOL.</end quote></div>







Please do. Make sure to add a nifty third line like I did about bathing in others tears. You could say your specialty is wounding others inner children.</end quote></div>

I think I may do that. I hate to egg anyone on, but I'm a sarcastic type of person, I like to joke about things that are dumb. So sue me. I'm gonna add it.

 

[Emily65Roses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>
or as emily so affectionately calls it, the "AP"</end quote></div>

You're the one that named it, Captain Obvious. I was merely making a joke on how ridiculous it sounded.

While I'm here, I only agree and back people up when I actually agree. If I don't, I keep quiet, or disagree outloud. I don't back people up just for the sake of it. And the fact that you think I do makes me laugh. If you really think I'd back people up on something I don't believe, you don't know me as well as you think you do.

AND I'm going to agree with Allie. Oh, I know. Please die of shock and then tell me we share a brain. But I don't give a d*mn that you shared your opinion. Share all the opinions you like. The suggestion you made that we leave like you own the world... is what makes me angry. It wasn't your place to make.

 

[LisaV]

Thank you anon for those flame warriors intros.

Well I haven't decided, is julie ego or xenophobe, or does she just think she's god.
I would think of Enfant Provacateur, <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/enfantprovocateur.htm">http://redwing.hutman.net/~mre.../enfantprovocateur.htm</a> but they say that those are almost young and male -- still they do think it could just be a hormone thing... and actually starting a new thread with a grenade (well, 2) ...
No, Enfant Provacateur does not capture the tone of superiority. Must be Ego <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/ego.htm">http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/ego.htm</a> . But still not quite right. I'llkeep looking....

I HAVE IT!!
Eagle Scout!!! The gender threw me for a moment.

I, of course, half want to be toxic granny, but think that's out because I've noticed no respect for my age and I'm not half so capable.

 

[julie]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>If we can't get it back to the way it use to be, where there was assistance, help, friendship, support, guidance, information, and KINDNESS, why don't we ask the problem to leave? As a matter of fact, that is what I am requesting right now. </end quote></div>


What I said in the quoted material is just that, " I am requesting the following right now:
if we can't get back to where there was assistance, help, friendship, support, guidance, inforamation adn KINDNESS, maybe we ought to ask the problem to leave"

Can we get back to where there was assistance, help, friendship, support, guidance, information and KINDNESS? I hope we can, and I am positive that a desire to do so will make it possible, but if not, maybe we (and when I say we, I just mean generally) ought to come up with another solution, like asking the problem to leave.

Did I expect you to leave? No, I didn't, but thought maybe it would stop and make everyone think twice (myself included). It appears that it did make people stop and think.

Long time members of this forum? Try about 6 months. But that's not the point I was making, just wanted to shed that light for you.

It seems as though you are curious about why your name was first. It just happened to be the first name I saw on Charolette's post.

I knew it would be a controversial topic allie, but I felt the need to say it and I did. And I disagree, some have benefited from it, they just don't want to be posting on here and getting attacked. Not everyone has thick skin like you, I and the others who have entertained the last 5+ pages of this topic. And I know, I know, you don't have time for cowards. CAll them what you want, but think of why they feel that way.

Don't struggle to explain anything to me Allie, I hear you and I get it. I just don't agree with all of what you are saying-some of it yes.

There is truth in what I said, no one has the right to state someone elses opinion or tell another person their feelings are right. I expressed my FEELINGS and OPINIONS today. If people disagree-which some do, so be it. I wasn't looking for agreement. But it doesn't mean there is no truth in my feelings.

 

[Emily65Roses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i>
I knew it would be a controversial topic allie, but I felt the need to say it and I did. And I disagree, some have benefited from it, they just don't want to be posting on here and getting attacked. Not everyone has thick skin like you, I and the others who have entertained the last 5+ pages of this topic. And I know, I know, you don't have time for cowards. CAll them what you want, but think of why they feel that way. </end quote></div>

Maybe some of them feel that way because of things we've said. But I imagine some of them <i>also</i> feel that way because of things YOU'VE said, miss holier than thou.

 

[julie]

It's very possible Emily, very possible. Something I can definately work on here on out, although as you might say, the damage in this thread is done. Nobody's perfect, but you are right, there are clearly some people offended by me today, and in the past.

 

[IG]

This all reminds me of a talk that I had recently with a person that I knew.

Person: someone deserving of new lungs should have recieved whats keeping you breathing
Person: go hide now!!! your best at it!!!
Candice: and perhaps it's true
Candice: actually
Candice: I'm working on a paper
Candice: I would think that you, of all people, would know what that means
Candice: but hey if you want to keep this up
Candice: go ahead
Person: no, you can go back to your bubble... you dont fit in with reality anyway
Candice: hey if that's what you believe cool
Person: not just what I think, sorry
Candice: I said I disagreed with what my school chose
Candice: then I said my personal opinion
Candice: I had thought that you would be level headed enough to say
Candice: 'that's ok we disagree'
Candice: 'but that's cool'
Candice: obviously I gave you more credit than what you deserve
Person: you really arent that mature so you can stop the act
Candice: misjudged you, so whoops on my part
Person: you whiiiiiiiiiiine worse than a 3 yr old
Candice: as can you
Candice: that's what friends do
Candice: but like I said, misjudged
Candice: now it's just a personal attack
Candice: and for that i'm sorry

All I hear from people nowadays is 'b*tch and moan, b*tch a moan'
I've heard on this very forum, one complain about the other, and then the other complain about the one.
I've heard almost all of you guys complain about the 'state' of this forum.
But I have not SEEN one of you do anything to help it. My advice, grow up and get some maturity. Like this above conversation shows, not everybody is perfect, and we don't all have to like one another but in order to make this place a better forum for other CFers we have to stop and analyze our own actions. Yeah this forum is about friendships but for those of you who have been here the longest (Emily comes to mind) you know that this place is first and foremost at its basis a place for information. INFORMATION, yes friendships have come from that and that's great but like I said people come here for information.

Yea we all have problems, I have problems with SeanDavis and his *not* funny posts. So I fixed that. How? Blocked him. Problem for me, solved. So I suggest that you guys all take a little dose of maturity and suck it up. Yea Julie I agree with you on most posts, even in some cases this one the forum does need to change, but y'all need to realize that some of us may never get along and we have to deal with that as best we can. *without bringing it to the forums*

I think just dragging this on is ridiculous as it is. If you really have a problem with somebody on the forums or how they're acting bring it up in a private message. Leave the personal information in the blogs, leave the feelings in the blogs, that's what they're there for. Leave the information on the forums. That's what it's there for.

So I've said my peace, if you want to respond negatively to this, go right ahead. I won't bother reading it or the rest of the posts to this.. this topic has been dragged on enough in my opinion.

 

[anonymous]

Sorry i havn't had a chance to read peoples comments, but will do so by tonight.

I just wanted to say, evryone needs to wake up to themselves and chill out
*HELLO*
I understand this is the internet and people are going to say what they want when they want.
I personally don't think it shoould be done on a CF forum ,as people come here for help, advice, and many other personal factors.
I think people are begging to forget what this forum wasactually designed for.
So for those of you who are not appreciative and who want to psot about this issue. Go and do it on the (non CF related section)

OK!

 

[HairGirl]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>but y'all need to realize that some of us may never get along and we have to deal with that as best we can. *without bringing it to the forums* </end quote></div>

Candice I agree, why wasn't this in a blog? or PM'd to certain people? It doesn't need a thread. If you have problems like other people have had, they say it in their blogs, I'm fine with that!