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CFHockeyMom

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I agree in principle Shamrock but smoking is dumb as hell whether you've got CF or not. Doing your treatments only stands to improve your health while smoking only serves to make it worse (cancer, COPD, emphasema, asthma, etc...) so I do believe there is a big difference.
 

CFHockeyMom

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I agree in principle Shamrock but smoking is dumb as hell whether you've got CF or not. Doing your treatments only stands to improve your health while smoking only serves to make it worse (cancer, COPD, emphasema, asthma, etc...) so I do believe there is a big difference.
 

CFHockeyMom

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I agree in principle Shamrock but smoking is dumb as hell whether you've got CF or not. Doing your treatments only stands to improve your health while smoking only serves to make it worse (cancer, COPD, emphasema, asthma, etc...) so I do believe there is a big difference.
 

CFHockeyMom

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I agree in principle Shamrock but smoking is dumb as hell whether you've got CF or not. Doing your treatments only stands to improve your health while smoking only serves to make it worse (cancer, COPD, emphasema, asthma, etc...) so I do believe there is a big difference.
 

CFHockeyMom

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I agree in principle Shamrock but smoking is dumb as hell whether you've got CF or not. Doing your treatments only stands to improve your health while smoking only serves to make it worse (cancer, COPD, emphasema, asthma, etc...) so I do believe there is a big difference.
 

CFHockeyMom

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I agree in principle Shamrock but smoking is dumb as hell whether you've got CF or not. Doing your treatments only stands to improve your health while smoking only serves to make it worse (cancer, COPD, emphasema, asthma, etc...) so I do believe there is a big difference.
 

momtoCory

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Emily-
This is one of the best post I have seen on this board in quite some time.
Being a parent of a CFer it took me a long time to get to the point where I can say that I agree with you completely.
Over the years as Cory has grown more sick, I have come to hate the words "he is a fighter or he is so strong". The point and the only point is He shouldn't have to be. He lives the life he has been dealt and he makes the choices for those.
I would never want Cory to live his life the way he that "I" would want him too.
The only thing I want him to know is that I would and will support him in any way I can (even if those are choices I would not make for myself). I do not have to live with the daily hell of CF. Yes, emotionally, I may life with it but it is no where close to the same. When it is Cory's time to go, I want to know that I stood beside him supporting and caring not fighting with him on different views.
 

momtoCory

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Emily-
This is one of the best post I have seen on this board in quite some time.
Being a parent of a CFer it took me a long time to get to the point where I can say that I agree with you completely.
Over the years as Cory has grown more sick, I have come to hate the words "he is a fighter or he is so strong". The point and the only point is He shouldn't have to be. He lives the life he has been dealt and he makes the choices for those.
I would never want Cory to live his life the way he that "I" would want him too.
The only thing I want him to know is that I would and will support him in any way I can (even if those are choices I would not make for myself). I do not have to live with the daily hell of CF. Yes, emotionally, I may life with it but it is no where close to the same. When it is Cory's time to go, I want to know that I stood beside him supporting and caring not fighting with him on different views.
 

momtoCory

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Emily-
This is one of the best post I have seen on this board in quite some time.
Being a parent of a CFer it took me a long time to get to the point where I can say that I agree with you completely.
Over the years as Cory has grown more sick, I have come to hate the words "he is a fighter or he is so strong". The point and the only point is He shouldn't have to be. He lives the life he has been dealt and he makes the choices for those.
I would never want Cory to live his life the way he that "I" would want him too.
The only thing I want him to know is that I would and will support him in any way I can (even if those are choices I would not make for myself). I do not have to live with the daily hell of CF. Yes, emotionally, I may life with it but it is no where close to the same. When it is Cory's time to go, I want to know that I stood beside him supporting and caring not fighting with him on different views.
 

momtoCory

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Emily-
This is one of the best post I have seen on this board in quite some time.
Being a parent of a CFer it took me a long time to get to the point where I can say that I agree with you completely.
Over the years as Cory has grown more sick, I have come to hate the words "he is a fighter or he is so strong". The point and the only point is He shouldn't have to be. He lives the life he has been dealt and he makes the choices for those.
I would never want Cory to live his life the way he that "I" would want him too.
The only thing I want him to know is that I would and will support him in any way I can (even if those are choices I would not make for myself). I do not have to live with the daily hell of CF. Yes, emotionally, I may life with it but it is no where close to the same. When it is Cory's time to go, I want to know that I stood beside him supporting and caring not fighting with him on different views.
 

momtoCory

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Emily-
This is one of the best post I have seen on this board in quite some time.
Being a parent of a CFer it took me a long time to get to the point where I can say that I agree with you completely.
Over the years as Cory has grown more sick, I have come to hate the words "he is a fighter or he is so strong". The point and the only point is He shouldn't have to be. He lives the life he has been dealt and he makes the choices for those.
I would never want Cory to live his life the way he that "I" would want him too.
The only thing I want him to know is that I would and will support him in any way I can (even if those are choices I would not make for myself). I do not have to live with the daily hell of CF. Yes, emotionally, I may life with it but it is no where close to the same. When it is Cory's time to go, I want to know that I stood beside him supporting and caring not fighting with him on different views.
 

momtoCory

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Emily-
This is one of the best post I have seen on this board in quite some time.
Being a parent of a CFer it took me a long time to get to the point where I can say that I agree with you completely.
Over the years as Cory has grown more sick, I have come to hate the words "he is a fighter or he is so strong". The point and the only point is He shouldn't have to be. He lives the life he has been dealt and he makes the choices for those.
I would never want Cory to live his life the way he that "I" would want him too.
The only thing I want him to know is that I would and will support him in any way I can (even if those are choices I would not make for myself). I do not have to live with the daily hell of CF. Yes, emotionally, I may life with it but it is no where close to the same. When it is Cory's time to go, I want to know that I stood beside him supporting and caring not fighting with him on different views.
 

shamrock

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I agree in principle Shamrock but smoking is dumb as hell whether you've got CF or not. </end quote></div>

I agree, I mean I think smokers are VERY stupid AND annoying. But you have to remember that we each only get to live life ONCE and we are not here to judge others for the way that THEY chose to live THEIR lives.

At one stage in my life (years ago) I stopped doing (some-most of) my treatments. I was sick of being different, and couldn't be bothered. I told my team that I was here to enjoy life and that doing treatments were not something I was prepared to do in order to enjoy my life. They understood me very well and said they were only here to give advice not tell me how to run my life. Luckily I got back to doing them and I'm glad.

But so what if someone decides to do drugs, or smoke or whatever. Their life, their choice.
 

shamrock

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I agree in principle Shamrock but smoking is dumb as hell whether you've got CF or not. </end quote></div>

I agree, I mean I think smokers are VERY stupid AND annoying. But you have to remember that we each only get to live life ONCE and we are not here to judge others for the way that THEY chose to live THEIR lives.

At one stage in my life (years ago) I stopped doing (some-most of) my treatments. I was sick of being different, and couldn't be bothered. I told my team that I was here to enjoy life and that doing treatments were not something I was prepared to do in order to enjoy my life. They understood me very well and said they were only here to give advice not tell me how to run my life. Luckily I got back to doing them and I'm glad.

But so what if someone decides to do drugs, or smoke or whatever. Their life, their choice.
 

shamrock

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I agree in principle Shamrock but smoking is dumb as hell whether you've got CF or not. </end quote></div>

I agree, I mean I think smokers are VERY stupid AND annoying. But you have to remember that we each only get to live life ONCE and we are not here to judge others for the way that THEY chose to live THEIR lives.

At one stage in my life (years ago) I stopped doing (some-most of) my treatments. I was sick of being different, and couldn't be bothered. I told my team that I was here to enjoy life and that doing treatments were not something I was prepared to do in order to enjoy my life. They understood me very well and said they were only here to give advice not tell me how to run my life. Luckily I got back to doing them and I'm glad.

But so what if someone decides to do drugs, or smoke or whatever. Their life, their choice.
 

shamrock

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I agree in principle Shamrock but smoking is dumb as hell whether you've got CF or not. </end quote></div>

I agree, I mean I think smokers are VERY stupid AND annoying. But you have to remember that we each only get to live life ONCE and we are not here to judge others for the way that THEY chose to live THEIR lives.

At one stage in my life (years ago) I stopped doing (some-most of) my treatments. I was sick of being different, and couldn't be bothered. I told my team that I was here to enjoy life and that doing treatments were not something I was prepared to do in order to enjoy my life. They understood me very well and said they were only here to give advice not tell me how to run my life. Luckily I got back to doing them and I'm glad.

But so what if someone decides to do drugs, or smoke or whatever. Their life, their choice.
 

shamrock

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I agree in principle Shamrock but smoking is dumb as hell whether you've got CF or not. </end quote>

I agree, I mean I think smokers are VERY stupid AND annoying. But you have to remember that we each only get to live life ONCE and we are not here to judge others for the way that THEY chose to live THEIR lives.

At one stage in my life (years ago) I stopped doing (some-most of) my treatments. I was sick of being different, and couldn't be bothered. I told my team that I was here to enjoy life and that doing treatments were not something I was prepared to do in order to enjoy my life. They understood me very well and said they were only here to give advice not tell me how to run my life. Luckily I got back to doing them and I'm glad.

But so what if someone decides to do drugs, or smoke or whatever. Their life, their choice.
 

shamrock

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I agree in principle Shamrock but smoking is dumb as hell whether you've got CF or not. </end quote>

I agree, I mean I think smokers are VERY stupid AND annoying. But you have to remember that we each only get to live life ONCE and we are not here to judge others for the way that THEY chose to live THEIR lives.

At one stage in my life (years ago) I stopped doing (some-most of) my treatments. I was sick of being different, and couldn't be bothered. I told my team that I was here to enjoy life and that doing treatments were not something I was prepared to do in order to enjoy my life. They understood me very well and said they were only here to give advice not tell me how to run my life. Luckily I got back to doing them and I'm glad.

But so what if someone decides to do drugs, or smoke or whatever. Their life, their choice.
 

littledebbie

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Ha Emily, I was talking about this very thing just yesterday with my Dad.

I totally agree *surprise*. And I think it's funny the way so many people divided living and dying. Like they are two seperate things. They are the same, they are one. And I don't mean just for CFers, I mean everyone here today in the world is living today and dying today.

And I hate hate hate when people are sooo encouraged to "fight", Fight? Well thats all well and good but we need to also keep our eye on the fact that we will die, no one can fight their way out of that. So to me it like we have been in a life long battle and when the last scrimmage is imminent and I can see this time I'm probably going to get my as$ kicked for good, I can at least take a look around and pick which field I chose to die on (my couch <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">) And in doing so I DID NOT GIVE UP!!!!! I mean the way some peoples philosophy seems to go-everyone who is dead at some point gave up.? Or maybe only if you die in a hospital gasping painfully for your last breath trying some last ditch effort did you fight til the end? What a load of crap.

What about fighting to the end to meet life on your terms? That's what I'm talking about!

*side note- I also totally agree with Emily that it's whatever the person who is dying wants thats important. This isn't some anti-treatment, anti-Tx or whatevr sentiment. To me this is just about respecting peoples choices who chose to acknowledge where they are when they are in their final stage and finding words for them other than "keep up the fight" or "don't get depressed" whatever other version, just because it makes the person saying it feel better it's actually rather insulting and of no help at all to the person you're saying it to. In My Overstated Opinion anyway <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

littledebbie

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Ha Emily, I was talking about this very thing just yesterday with my Dad.

I totally agree *surprise*. And I think it's funny the way so many people divided living and dying. Like they are two seperate things. They are the same, they are one. And I don't mean just for CFers, I mean everyone here today in the world is living today and dying today.

And I hate hate hate when people are sooo encouraged to "fight", Fight? Well thats all well and good but we need to also keep our eye on the fact that we will die, no one can fight their way out of that. So to me it like we have been in a life long battle and when the last scrimmage is imminent and I can see this time I'm probably going to get my as$ kicked for good, I can at least take a look around and pick which field I chose to die on (my couch <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">) And in doing so I DID NOT GIVE UP!!!!! I mean the way some peoples philosophy seems to go-everyone who is dead at some point gave up.? Or maybe only if you die in a hospital gasping painfully for your last breath trying some last ditch effort did you fight til the end? What a load of crap.

What about fighting to the end to meet life on your terms? That's what I'm talking about!

*side note- I also totally agree with Emily that it's whatever the person who is dying wants thats important. This isn't some anti-treatment, anti-Tx or whatevr sentiment. To me this is just about respecting peoples choices who chose to acknowledge where they are when they are in their final stage and finding words for them other than "keep up the fight" or "don't get depressed" whatever other version, just because it makes the person saying it feel better it's actually rather insulting and of no help at all to the person you're saying it to. In My Overstated Opinion anyway <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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