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NoExcuses

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Peter, you are way out of line.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>PeterC</b></i>

Sakasuka:



You have not been fully informed!!! Read the attached article posted on CBS News web site 5/17/07. Or just Google "Kaiser dumps patients on skid row"



<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/17/60minutes/main2823079.shtml
">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories...in2823079.shtml
</a>


Kaiser has been dumping homeless and poor people on skid row in LA for some time. It seems the law has finally caught up with them.

</end quote>

I never said that patients weren't dumped. I said that legally ER's can't turn people alway.

Lot of people break rules in this country, but as you said, the law catches up with you.

I'm fully aware of this story....

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>obvious biased towards big Pharma and your rather Right leaning opinions that stand out in your comments. </end quote>

I am entitled to any opinion that I want.

If you're a card carrying socialist, so be it. If you're a commie, then you are what you are. No opinions are out-lawed here, whether they're right or left.



<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> You should make it clear to people by stating up front that you are a current or former employee of the Pharmaceutical industry, </end quote>

You're getting your cause and effect relationship mixed up. I'm in the industry because I believe in what they do. My opinions were such way before I even left college. And who the hell cares who I'm employed by? I'm allowed to have any opinion that I want.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> a card carrying Republican </end quote>

You are making a <b> COMPLETE FOOL OF YOURSELF </b> because I have never stated that I belonged to a political party. Get your facts straight before you speak. In fact I don't and I have voted for many different parties over the years.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>and that you whole heartedly support our current Fascist government. </end quote>

Where did this come from? Where did I say that I support our fascist government?

You're coming off like an idiot. If you recall my blogs from a few weeks ago, i was fighting against Bush's immigrant plan.

You sir, are a moron.


<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>If you put this little piece of biographical info at the top of your posts people would have a much clearer sense of who you are and what you stand for. </end quote>

Scarlet letter, eh, just because I don't hold the same views as you? My opinions are my opinions and so are yours.

And you've been wrong on almost everyone one of your comments. What is your deal?



<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>
I financially supported five key democrats across the country that ran against the republican establishment last fall and they all won. I also write letters and send emails to congressmen and senators on a regular basis in regards to important issues facing our country. </end quote>



I have great health care coverage right now! The state of California covers me with its GHPP (Genetically Handicapped Persons Program) coverage. That's right a state government funded and run program!! It often isn't the most responsive health care I have received but the care is excellent none the less.



<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> Sakasuka, don't you live in California and have GHPP? </end quote>

Get your facts straing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <b> I DON'T HAVE GHPP </b>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>You have strong opinions about things but people can be mislead by your words. Full disclosure would go a long way in making things clear to people!! </end quote>

You're an idiot.
 
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NoExcuses

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"SIKO

Peter, you are way out of line.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>PeterC</b></i>

Sakasuka:



You have not been fully informed!!! Read the attached article posted on CBS News web site 5/17/07. Or just Google "Kaiser dumps patients on skid row"



<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/17/60minutes/main2823079.shtml
">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories...in2823079.shtml
</a>


Kaiser has been dumping homeless and poor people on skid row in LA for some time. It seems the law has finally caught up with them.

</end quote>

I never said that patients weren't dumped. I said that legally ER's can't turn people alway.

Lot of people break rules in this country, but as you said, the law catches up with you.

I'm fully aware of this story....

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>obvious biased towards big Pharma and your rather Right leaning opinions that stand out in your comments. </end quote>

I am entitled to any opinion that I want.

If you're a card carrying socialist, so be it. If you're a commie, then you are what you are. No opinions are out-lawed here, whether they're right or left.



<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> You should make it clear to people by stating up front that you are a current or former employee of the Pharmaceutical industry, </end quote>

You're getting your cause and effect relationship mixed up. I'm in the industry because I believe in what they do. My opinions were such way before I even left college. And who the hell cares who I'm employed by? I'm allowed to have any opinion that I want.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> a card carrying Republican </end quote>

You are making a <b> COMPLETE FOOL OF YOURSELF </b> because I have never stated that I belonged to a political party. Get your facts straight before you speak. In fact I don't and I have voted for many different parties over the years.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>and that you whole heartedly support our current Fascist government. </end quote>

Where did this come from? Where did I say that I support our fascist government?

You're coming off like an idiot. If you recall my blogs from a few weeks ago, i was fighting against Bush's immigrant plan.

You sir, are a moron.


<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>If you put this little piece of biographical info at the top of your posts people would have a much clearer sense of who you are and what you stand for. </end quote>

Scarlet letter, eh, just because I don't hold the same views as you? My opinions are my opinions and so are yours.

And you've been wrong on almost everyone one of your comments. What is your deal?



<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>
I financially supported five key democrats across the country that ran against the republican establishment last fall and they all won. I also write letters and send emails to congressmen and senators on a regular basis in regards to important issues facing our country. </end quote>



I have great health care coverage right now! The state of California covers me with its GHPP (Genetically Handicapped Persons Program) coverage. That's right a state government funded and run program!! It often isn't the most responsive health care I have received but the care is excellent none the less.



<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> Sakasuka, don't you live in California and have GHPP? </end quote>

Get your facts straing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <b> I DON'T HAVE GHPP </b>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>You have strong opinions about things but people can be mislead by your words. Full disclosure would go a long way in making things clear to people!! </end quote>

You're an idiot.
 
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JustDucky

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Either way I look at it, the health care system needs a major overhaul, no one should be without insurance. The US has a 300 million plus population with a significant amount of people who aren't insured or under insured, alot of them are people like my brother who is self employed but finds it too difficult to come up with $1200 a month to insure his family. He can only afford major hospital insurance, it does not cover doctors or prescriptions. Fortunately he is blessed with good health, but like everything in life, that can change in a blink of an eye. While growing up, my parents had no insurance for the same reasons, they were self employed and made too much for any help but found it too expensive to pay the premiums. Food was a priority...we weren't wealthy by any standards. I feel that in order to get insured in this country, you have to either be very poor, fairly well off, work for a company that offers health insurance, or be elderly or disabled. The low middle class, the small business man, self employed, and the homeless are screwed (I am sure I left out others, but at this time of night, I am bound to do that as my mind wanders).
I am lucky to have my children insured under what is called Child health plus in NY, my income from my disability does not qualify myself nor my children for Medicaid, but with that program, you can have a much higher income and still qualify for cheap insurance premiums for your children. I have MEdicare, which seriously needs a revamping...there are many money saving tactics that could be instituted that would save billions, particularly when it comes to home care. As I mentioned in one post, Medicare does not cover home IV's therefore you need to go to a hospital for your IV's, which in my case is much much more expensive due to specialized care that I get for my vent as well. They don't even blink when they pay out that $80,000 for treatment that I could get home for a fraction of the cost. It is sickening how much money is wasted in some cases. On the flipside, it can be absolutely maddening just how hard it is to get some services covered by Medicare and what the doctors have to do in order for them to be covered...such as my TOBI. Actually, getting the vest was easier than getting the TOBI.....
What is the ultimate solution? I don't know....I don't think that strictly socialized medicine is the answer though. This is just such a complex issue with no easy fix. I too would be interested in hearing from others who live in socialized countries as I will admit that I don't know a great deal about how their systems work.
Good topic....hugs, Jenn <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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JustDucky

New member
"SIKO

Either way I look at it, the health care system needs a major overhaul, no one should be without insurance. The US has a 300 million plus population with a significant amount of people who aren't insured or under insured, alot of them are people like my brother who is self employed but finds it too difficult to come up with $1200 a month to insure his family. He can only afford major hospital insurance, it does not cover doctors or prescriptions. Fortunately he is blessed with good health, but like everything in life, that can change in a blink of an eye. While growing up, my parents had no insurance for the same reasons, they were self employed and made too much for any help but found it too expensive to pay the premiums. Food was a priority...we weren't wealthy by any standards. I feel that in order to get insured in this country, you have to either be very poor, fairly well off, work for a company that offers health insurance, or be elderly or disabled. The low middle class, the small business man, self employed, and the homeless are screwed (I am sure I left out others, but at this time of night, I am bound to do that as my mind wanders).
I am lucky to have my children insured under what is called Child health plus in NY, my income from my disability does not qualify myself nor my children for Medicaid, but with that program, you can have a much higher income and still qualify for cheap insurance premiums for your children. I have MEdicare, which seriously needs a revamping...there are many money saving tactics that could be instituted that would save billions, particularly when it comes to home care. As I mentioned in one post, Medicare does not cover home IV's therefore you need to go to a hospital for your IV's, which in my case is much much more expensive due to specialized care that I get for my vent as well. They don't even blink when they pay out that $80,000 for treatment that I could get home for a fraction of the cost. It is sickening how much money is wasted in some cases. On the flipside, it can be absolutely maddening just how hard it is to get some services covered by Medicare and what the doctors have to do in order for them to be covered...such as my TOBI. Actually, getting the vest was easier than getting the TOBI.....
What is the ultimate solution? I don't know....I don't think that strictly socialized medicine is the answer though. This is just such a complex issue with no easy fix. I too would be interested in hearing from others who live in socialized countries as I will admit that I don't know a great deal about how their systems work.
Good topic....hugs, Jenn <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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JustDucky

New member
"SIKO

Either way I look at it, the health care system needs a major overhaul, no one should be without insurance. The US has a 300 million plus population with a significant amount of people who aren't insured or under insured, alot of them are people like my brother who is self employed but finds it too difficult to come up with $1200 a month to insure his family. He can only afford major hospital insurance, it does not cover doctors or prescriptions. Fortunately he is blessed with good health, but like everything in life, that can change in a blink of an eye. While growing up, my parents had no insurance for the same reasons, they were self employed and made too much for any help but found it too expensive to pay the premiums. Food was a priority...we weren't wealthy by any standards. I feel that in order to get insured in this country, you have to either be very poor, fairly well off, work for a company that offers health insurance, or be elderly or disabled. The low middle class, the small business man, self employed, and the homeless are screwed (I am sure I left out others, but at this time of night, I am bound to do that as my mind wanders).
I am lucky to have my children insured under what is called Child health plus in NY, my income from my disability does not qualify myself nor my children for Medicaid, but with that program, you can have a much higher income and still qualify for cheap insurance premiums for your children. I have MEdicare, which seriously needs a revamping...there are many money saving tactics that could be instituted that would save billions, particularly when it comes to home care. As I mentioned in one post, Medicare does not cover home IV's therefore you need to go to a hospital for your IV's, which in my case is much much more expensive due to specialized care that I get for my vent as well. They don't even blink when they pay out that $80,000 for treatment that I could get home for a fraction of the cost. It is sickening how much money is wasted in some cases. On the flipside, it can be absolutely maddening just how hard it is to get some services covered by Medicare and what the doctors have to do in order for them to be covered...such as my TOBI. Actually, getting the vest was easier than getting the TOBI.....
What is the ultimate solution? I don't know....I don't think that strictly socialized medicine is the answer though. This is just such a complex issue with no easy fix. I too would be interested in hearing from others who live in socialized countries as I will admit that I don't know a great deal about how their systems work.
Good topic....hugs, Jenn <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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JustDucky

New member
"SIKO

Either way I look at it, the health care system needs a major overhaul, no one should be without insurance. The US has a 300 million plus population with a significant amount of people who aren't insured or under insured, alot of them are people like my brother who is self employed but finds it too difficult to come up with $1200 a month to insure his family. He can only afford major hospital insurance, it does not cover doctors or prescriptions. Fortunately he is blessed with good health, but like everything in life, that can change in a blink of an eye. While growing up, my parents had no insurance for the same reasons, they were self employed and made too much for any help but found it too expensive to pay the premiums. Food was a priority...we weren't wealthy by any standards. I feel that in order to get insured in this country, you have to either be very poor, fairly well off, work for a company that offers health insurance, or be elderly or disabled. The low middle class, the small business man, self employed, and the homeless are screwed (I am sure I left out others, but at this time of night, I am bound to do that as my mind wanders).
I am lucky to have my children insured under what is called Child health plus in NY, my income from my disability does not qualify myself nor my children for Medicaid, but with that program, you can have a much higher income and still qualify for cheap insurance premiums for your children. I have MEdicare, which seriously needs a revamping...there are many money saving tactics that could be instituted that would save billions, particularly when it comes to home care. As I mentioned in one post, Medicare does not cover home IV's therefore you need to go to a hospital for your IV's, which in my case is much much more expensive due to specialized care that I get for my vent as well. They don't even blink when they pay out that $80,000 for treatment that I could get home for a fraction of the cost. It is sickening how much money is wasted in some cases. On the flipside, it can be absolutely maddening just how hard it is to get some services covered by Medicare and what the doctors have to do in order for them to be covered...such as my TOBI. Actually, getting the vest was easier than getting the TOBI.....
What is the ultimate solution? I don't know....I don't think that strictly socialized medicine is the answer though. This is just such a complex issue with no easy fix. I too would be interested in hearing from others who live in socialized countries as I will admit that I don't know a great deal about how their systems work.
Good topic....hugs, Jenn <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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JustDucky

New member
"SIKO

Either way I look at it, the health care system needs a major overhaul, no one should be without insurance. The US has a 300 million plus population with a significant amount of people who aren't insured or under insured, alot of them are people like my brother who is self employed but finds it too difficult to come up with $1200 a month to insure his family. He can only afford major hospital insurance, it does not cover doctors or prescriptions. Fortunately he is blessed with good health, but like everything in life, that can change in a blink of an eye. While growing up, my parents had no insurance for the same reasons, they were self employed and made too much for any help but found it too expensive to pay the premiums. Food was a priority...we weren't wealthy by any standards. I feel that in order to get insured in this country, you have to either be very poor, fairly well off, work for a company that offers health insurance, or be elderly or disabled. The low middle class, the small business man, self employed, and the homeless are screwed (I am sure I left out others, but at this time of night, I am bound to do that as my mind wanders).
I am lucky to have my children insured under what is called Child health plus in NY, my income from my disability does not qualify myself nor my children for Medicaid, but with that program, you can have a much higher income and still qualify for cheap insurance premiums for your children. I have MEdicare, which seriously needs a revamping...there are many money saving tactics that could be instituted that would save billions, particularly when it comes to home care. As I mentioned in one post, Medicare does not cover home IV's therefore you need to go to a hospital for your IV's, which in my case is much much more expensive due to specialized care that I get for my vent as well. They don't even blink when they pay out that $80,000 for treatment that I could get home for a fraction of the cost. It is sickening how much money is wasted in some cases. On the flipside, it can be absolutely maddening just how hard it is to get some services covered by Medicare and what the doctors have to do in order for them to be covered...such as my TOBI. Actually, getting the vest was easier than getting the TOBI.....
What is the ultimate solution? I don't know....I don't think that strictly socialized medicine is the answer though. This is just such a complex issue with no easy fix. I too would be interested in hearing from others who live in socialized countries as I will admit that I don't know a great deal about how their systems work.
Good topic....hugs, Jenn <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
J

JustDucky

New member
"SIKO

Either way I look at it, the health care system needs a major overhaul, no one should be without insurance. The US has a 300 million plus population with a significant amount of people who aren't insured or under insured, alot of them are people like my brother who is self employed but finds it too difficult to come up with $1200 a month to insure his family. He can only afford major hospital insurance, it does not cover doctors or prescriptions. Fortunately he is blessed with good health, but like everything in life, that can change in a blink of an eye. While growing up, my parents had no insurance for the same reasons, they were self employed and made too much for any help but found it too expensive to pay the premiums. Food was a priority...we weren't wealthy by any standards. I feel that in order to get insured in this country, you have to either be very poor, fairly well off, work for a company that offers health insurance, or be elderly or disabled. The low middle class, the small business man, self employed, and the homeless are screwed (I am sure I left out others, but at this time of night, I am bound to do that as my mind wanders).
I am lucky to have my children insured under what is called Child health plus in NY, my income from my disability does not qualify myself nor my children for Medicaid, but with that program, you can have a much higher income and still qualify for cheap insurance premiums for your children. I have MEdicare, which seriously needs a revamping...there are many money saving tactics that could be instituted that would save billions, particularly when it comes to home care. As I mentioned in one post, Medicare does not cover home IV's therefore you need to go to a hospital for your IV's, which in my case is much much more expensive due to specialized care that I get for my vent as well. They don't even blink when they pay out that $80,000 for treatment that I could get home for a fraction of the cost. It is sickening how much money is wasted in some cases. On the flipside, it can be absolutely maddening just how hard it is to get some services covered by Medicare and what the doctors have to do in order for them to be covered...such as my TOBI. Actually, getting the vest was easier than getting the TOBI.....
What is the ultimate solution? I don't know....I don't think that strictly socialized medicine is the answer though. This is just such a complex issue with no easy fix. I too would be interested in hearing from others who live in socialized countries as I will admit that I don't know a great deal about how their systems work.
Good topic....hugs, Jenn <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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dyza

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Kriss (kmaried), do you have any evidence of the biggest medical breakthroughs being from Pharma'led research, or are you just imagining this?

9% national insurance in the UK. And in europe people work the most hours on average in the UK, might not be as high as 80 hours, I guess we have the same work ethic to the US ( or is that the other way round LOL )
 
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dyza

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"SIKO

Kriss (kmaried), do you have any evidence of the biggest medical breakthroughs being from Pharma'led research, or are you just imagining this?

9% national insurance in the UK. And in europe people work the most hours on average in the UK, might not be as high as 80 hours, I guess we have the same work ethic to the US ( or is that the other way round LOL )
 
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dyza

New member
"SIKO

Kriss (kmaried), do you have any evidence of the biggest medical breakthroughs being from Pharma'led research, or are you just imagining this?

9% national insurance in the UK. And in europe people work the most hours on average in the UK, might not be as high as 80 hours, I guess we have the same work ethic to the US ( or is that the other way round LOL )
 
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dyza

New member
"SIKO

Kriss (kmaried), do you have any evidence of the biggest medical breakthroughs being from Pharma'led research, or are you just imagining this?

9% national insurance in the UK. And in europe people work the most hours on average in the UK, might not be as high as 80 hours, I guess we have the same work ethic to the US ( or is that the other way round LOL )
 
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dyza

New member
"SIKO

Kriss (kmaried), do you have any evidence of the biggest medical breakthroughs being from Pharma'led research, or are you just imagining this?

9% national insurance in the UK. And in europe people work the most hours on average in the UK, might not be as high as 80 hours, I guess we have the same work ethic to the US ( or is that the other way round LOL )
 
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dyza

New member
"SIKO

Kriss (kmaried), do you have any evidence of the biggest medical breakthroughs being from Pharma'led research, or are you just imagining this?

9% national insurance in the UK. And in europe people work the most hours on average in the UK, might not be as high as 80 hours, I guess we have the same work ethic to the US ( or is that the other way round LOL )
 
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dasjsmum

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"SIKO

hi all
Im glad to hear that people arent turned away from US hospitals, although that is the impression that is given by some news reports I have heard...recently there was a woman dying on an ER floor, with doctors and nurses ignoring her, and people around her were calling 911 to try to get her help.

Granted, this was probably an isolated case (I hope so), and we have had a couple of incidences over here with people being sent to hospital further away due to 'no beds'.

In Australia we all (people on incomes...we have unemployment benefits and single parents, plus old age, disability pensions etc who dont pay this) pay a medicare levy of (?%) on our income tax, it's a nominal amount, dependent on income, but isn't really a high percentage (someone else probably can tell us the exact amount).

Private health care costs about $1000 a year (a family) dependent upon what you want insurance for. This covers elective surgery...these are surgeries which cover problems a person could live with, but need to have rectified, such as a knee operation...if you were to rely on medicare, you may not get this fixed for a lengthy period of time, whereas, with private care the surgery is more quickly accessible.
 
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dasjsmum

New member
"SIKO

hi all
Im glad to hear that people arent turned away from US hospitals, although that is the impression that is given by some news reports I have heard...recently there was a woman dying on an ER floor, with doctors and nurses ignoring her, and people around her were calling 911 to try to get her help.

Granted, this was probably an isolated case (I hope so), and we have had a couple of incidences over here with people being sent to hospital further away due to 'no beds'.

In Australia we all (people on incomes...we have unemployment benefits and single parents, plus old age, disability pensions etc who dont pay this) pay a medicare levy of (?%) on our income tax, it's a nominal amount, dependent on income, but isn't really a high percentage (someone else probably can tell us the exact amount).

Private health care costs about $1000 a year (a family) dependent upon what you want insurance for. This covers elective surgery...these are surgeries which cover problems a person could live with, but need to have rectified, such as a knee operation...if you were to rely on medicare, you may not get this fixed for a lengthy period of time, whereas, with private care the surgery is more quickly accessible.
 
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dasjsmum

New member
"SIKO

hi all
Im glad to hear that people arent turned away from US hospitals, although that is the impression that is given by some news reports I have heard...recently there was a woman dying on an ER floor, with doctors and nurses ignoring her, and people around her were calling 911 to try to get her help.

Granted, this was probably an isolated case (I hope so), and we have had a couple of incidences over here with people being sent to hospital further away due to 'no beds'.

In Australia we all (people on incomes...we have unemployment benefits and single parents, plus old age, disability pensions etc who dont pay this) pay a medicare levy of (?%) on our income tax, it's a nominal amount, dependent on income, but isn't really a high percentage (someone else probably can tell us the exact amount).

Private health care costs about $1000 a year (a family) dependent upon what you want insurance for. This covers elective surgery...these are surgeries which cover problems a person could live with, but need to have rectified, such as a knee operation...if you were to rely on medicare, you may not get this fixed for a lengthy period of time, whereas, with private care the surgery is more quickly accessible.
 
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dasjsmum

New member
"SIKO

hi all
Im glad to hear that people arent turned away from US hospitals, although that is the impression that is given by some news reports I have heard...recently there was a woman dying on an ER floor, with doctors and nurses ignoring her, and people around her were calling 911 to try to get her help.

Granted, this was probably an isolated case (I hope so), and we have had a couple of incidences over here with people being sent to hospital further away due to 'no beds'.

In Australia we all (people on incomes...we have unemployment benefits and single parents, plus old age, disability pensions etc who dont pay this) pay a medicare levy of (?%) on our income tax, it's a nominal amount, dependent on income, but isn't really a high percentage (someone else probably can tell us the exact amount).

Private health care costs about $1000 a year (a family) dependent upon what you want insurance for. This covers elective surgery...these are surgeries which cover problems a person could live with, but need to have rectified, such as a knee operation...if you were to rely on medicare, you may not get this fixed for a lengthy period of time, whereas, with private care the surgery is more quickly accessible.
 
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dasjsmum

New member
"SIKO

hi all
Im glad to hear that people arent turned away from US hospitals, although that is the impression that is given by some news reports I have heard...recently there was a woman dying on an ER floor, with doctors and nurses ignoring her, and people around her were calling 911 to try to get her help.

Granted, this was probably an isolated case (I hope so), and we have had a couple of incidences over here with people being sent to hospital further away due to 'no beds'.

In Australia we all (people on incomes...we have unemployment benefits and single parents, plus old age, disability pensions etc who dont pay this) pay a medicare levy of (?%) on our income tax, it's a nominal amount, dependent on income, but isn't really a high percentage (someone else probably can tell us the exact amount).

Private health care costs about $1000 a year (a family) dependent upon what you want insurance for. This covers elective surgery...these are surgeries which cover problems a person could live with, but need to have rectified, such as a knee operation...if you were to rely on medicare, you may not get this fixed for a lengthy period of time, whereas, with private care the surgery is more quickly accessible.
 
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dasjsmum

New member
"SIKO

hi all
Im glad to hear that people arent turned away from US hospitals, although that is the impression that is given by some news reports I have heard...recently there was a woman dying on an ER floor, with doctors and nurses ignoring her, and people around her were calling 911 to try to get her help.

Granted, this was probably an isolated case (I hope so), and we have had a couple of incidences over here with people being sent to hospital further away due to 'no beds'.

In Australia we all (people on incomes...we have unemployment benefits and single parents, plus old age, disability pensions etc who dont pay this) pay a medicare levy of (?%) on our income tax, it's a nominal amount, dependent on income, but isn't really a high percentage (someone else probably can tell us the exact amount).

Private health care costs about $1000 a year (a family) dependent upon what you want insurance for. This covers elective surgery...these are surgeries which cover problems a person could live with, but need to have rectified, such as a knee operation...if you were to rely on medicare, you may not get this fixed for a lengthy period of time, whereas, with private care the surgery is more quickly accessible.
 
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