Teacher 'outed' my daughter!

julie

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The thing is NOT everyone has a good experience in telling others about their CF. Some have ok experiences, some have good experiences and some have awful experiences. Mark, for example, had a number of bad experiences when he told people about his CF back in elementary and again in JR high.

Such bad experiences that aside from our family, only 5 of his friends know and 3 of my friends, and his grandparents and parents church (which is pretty much people we never encounter).

He's not embarassed about it, although I've mis-spoken before and said, "he's quite about it, he's embarassed....". it's not htat he's embarased, it's that he DOES NOT want to be treated differently. And in all his experiences, he's been treated differently when he's told acquaintances. Close friends (like his 5, and my 3) are a tad different.

I think your daughter has every right to her privacy, she has every right to be upset, you have every right to be upset and I think you should take action to make sure this #1. doesnt' happen again and #2. doesn't happen to another child.

Mark told me about his CF before we started dating, we were good friends but were fastly falling for eachother and knew we wanted a relationship, but weren't sure where to go from friendship. So, before we became an official couple, he told me about it. I wasn't freaked out, I asked him a bit about it (which seemed hard for him to share) and he advised me NOT to trust everything I read and they make it sound a lot worse than it really is in most situations. And to ask him if I had questions about something I read, to please not just assume that what the internet or a book or even a doctor said, was exactly true for his situation. it wasn't easy for him, but he told me when he felt I needed to know.
 

julie

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The thing is NOT everyone has a good experience in telling others about their CF. Some have ok experiences, some have good experiences and some have awful experiences. Mark, for example, had a number of bad experiences when he told people about his CF back in elementary and again in JR high.

Such bad experiences that aside from our family, only 5 of his friends know and 3 of my friends, and his grandparents and parents church (which is pretty much people we never encounter).

He's not embarassed about it, although I've mis-spoken before and said, "he's quite about it, he's embarassed....". it's not htat he's embarased, it's that he DOES NOT want to be treated differently. And in all his experiences, he's been treated differently when he's told acquaintances. Close friends (like his 5, and my 3) are a tad different.

I think your daughter has every right to her privacy, she has every right to be upset, you have every right to be upset and I think you should take action to make sure this #1. doesnt' happen again and #2. doesn't happen to another child.

Mark told me about his CF before we started dating, we were good friends but were fastly falling for eachother and knew we wanted a relationship, but weren't sure where to go from friendship. So, before we became an official couple, he told me about it. I wasn't freaked out, I asked him a bit about it (which seemed hard for him to share) and he advised me NOT to trust everything I read and they make it sound a lot worse than it really is in most situations. And to ask him if I had questions about something I read, to please not just assume that what the internet or a book or even a doctor said, was exactly true for his situation. it wasn't easy for him, but he told me when he felt I needed to know.
 

julie

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The thing is NOT everyone has a good experience in telling others about their CF. Some have ok experiences, some have good experiences and some have awful experiences. Mark, for example, had a number of bad experiences when he told people about his CF back in elementary and again in JR high.

Such bad experiences that aside from our family, only 5 of his friends know and 3 of my friends, and his grandparents and parents church (which is pretty much people we never encounter).

He's not embarassed about it, although I've mis-spoken before and said, "he's quite about it, he's embarassed....". it's not htat he's embarased, it's that he DOES NOT want to be treated differently. And in all his experiences, he's been treated differently when he's told acquaintances. Close friends (like his 5, and my 3) are a tad different.

I think your daughter has every right to her privacy, she has every right to be upset, you have every right to be upset and I think you should take action to make sure this #1. doesnt' happen again and #2. doesn't happen to another child.

Mark told me about his CF before we started dating, we were good friends but were fastly falling for eachother and knew we wanted a relationship, but weren't sure where to go from friendship. So, before we became an official couple, he told me about it. I wasn't freaked out, I asked him a bit about it (which seemed hard for him to share) and he advised me NOT to trust everything I read and they make it sound a lot worse than it really is in most situations. And to ask him if I had questions about something I read, to please not just assume that what the internet or a book or even a doctor said, was exactly true for his situation. it wasn't easy for him, but he told me when he felt I needed to know.
 

Jane

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I was wondering how many adults with CF who insist that kids/ families need to be upfront about their diagnosis, are open enough to disclose their diagnosis at a job interview? There have been threads before about how many people don't give out that info to employers until the timing is right.

Do I detect a double standard here?

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Jane

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I was wondering how many adults with CF who insist that kids/ families need to be upfront about their diagnosis, are open enough to disclose their diagnosis at a job interview? There have been threads before about how many people don't give out that info to employers until the timing is right.

Do I detect a double standard here?

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Jane

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I was wondering how many adults with CF who insist that kids/ families need to be upfront about their diagnosis, are open enough to disclose their diagnosis at a job interview? There have been threads before about how many people don't give out that info to employers until the timing is right.

Do I detect a double standard here?

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JazzysMom

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Jane</b></i>

I was wondering how many adults with CF who insist that kids/ families need to be upfront about their diagnosis, are open enough to disclose their diagnosis at a job interview? There have been threads before about how many people don't give out that info to employers until the timing is right.



Do I detect a double standard here?



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At first I thought you meant that a specific member replied totally opposite, but I am suppose you are referring to how adults or potential employees revealing CF to their employers versus students revealing to their peers is what you are referring to.

I think I am the odd ball in both. I suppose much of it is that I grew up & have always worked in an a small area. I have never had a job that I didnt work with someone I knew from childhood or even was a distant relative. I also have been fortunate that my CF has never really caused an issue regarding employment or friendship to want to not be totally open about it. The closest was my first job in our local hospital when I was in the hospital twice within a short period of time. My Supervisor suggested I look for another position, but he was totally concerned and complete right about this particular position being unhealthy for me. BUT knowing this I just give my feedback based on my experiences knowing that it is not the norm!!!!!!!
 

JazzysMom

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Jane</b></i>

I was wondering how many adults with CF who insist that kids/ families need to be upfront about their diagnosis, are open enough to disclose their diagnosis at a job interview? There have been threads before about how many people don't give out that info to employers until the timing is right.



Do I detect a double standard here?



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At first I thought you meant that a specific member replied totally opposite, but I am suppose you are referring to how adults or potential employees revealing CF to their employers versus students revealing to their peers is what you are referring to.

I think I am the odd ball in both. I suppose much of it is that I grew up & have always worked in an a small area. I have never had a job that I didnt work with someone I knew from childhood or even was a distant relative. I also have been fortunate that my CF has never really caused an issue regarding employment or friendship to want to not be totally open about it. The closest was my first job in our local hospital when I was in the hospital twice within a short period of time. My Supervisor suggested I look for another position, but he was totally concerned and complete right about this particular position being unhealthy for me. BUT knowing this I just give my feedback based on my experiences knowing that it is not the norm!!!!!!!
 

JazzysMom

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Jane</b></i>

I was wondering how many adults with CF who insist that kids/ families need to be upfront about their diagnosis, are open enough to disclose their diagnosis at a job interview? There have been threads before about how many people don't give out that info to employers until the timing is right.



Do I detect a double standard here?



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At first I thought you meant that a specific member replied totally opposite, but I am suppose you are referring to how adults or potential employees revealing CF to their employers versus students revealing to their peers is what you are referring to.

I think I am the odd ball in both. I suppose much of it is that I grew up & have always worked in an a small area. I have never had a job that I didnt work with someone I knew from childhood or even was a distant relative. I also have been fortunate that my CF has never really caused an issue regarding employment or friendship to want to not be totally open about it. The closest was my first job in our local hospital when I was in the hospital twice within a short period of time. My Supervisor suggested I look for another position, but he was totally concerned and complete right about this particular position being unhealthy for me. BUT knowing this I just give my feedback based on my experiences knowing that it is not the norm!!!!!!!
 

Jane

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No, I didn't have any specific person in mind. I was just re-thinking this issue of privacy and went back over some old posts.

Of course, I am looking at this discussion as a parent because that's my position.

I was curious why so many people thought kids should be open about their CF, but so many adults kept it private at work. IMHO it is up to the individual (adult/child/family) to decide when and how the information gets shared. Not that it's a secret skeleton in the closet, but it is an issue.

I'm not trying to stir up the debate again, but I really am curious.
 

Jane

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No, I didn't have any specific person in mind. I was just re-thinking this issue of privacy and went back over some old posts.

Of course, I am looking at this discussion as a parent because that's my position.

I was curious why so many people thought kids should be open about their CF, but so many adults kept it private at work. IMHO it is up to the individual (adult/child/family) to decide when and how the information gets shared. Not that it's a secret skeleton in the closet, but it is an issue.

I'm not trying to stir up the debate again, but I really am curious.
 

Jane

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No, I didn't have any specific person in mind. I was just re-thinking this issue of privacy and went back over some old posts.

Of course, I am looking at this discussion as a parent because that's my position.

I was curious why so many people thought kids should be open about their CF, but so many adults kept it private at work. IMHO it is up to the individual (adult/child/family) to decide when and how the information gets shared. Not that it's a secret skeleton in the closet, but it is an issue.

I'm not trying to stir up the debate again, but I really am curious.
 

Emily65Roses

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I'm open pretty much everywhere. I'm open to my friends and family. I'm open at school. I'm open at the volunteering I have to do for school.

I am not, however, always open at work. At least not immediately. And here's why: When I was 17, I got a job at a kennel. After one week's work, I had to go into the hospital for IVs. One of my very first rounds. I was out for 4 days. I called her to let her know what was up, told her I was sorry, etc. The next week, when I got out of the hospital, PICC LINE STILL IN, I went back to work. She fired me on the spot, saying it was too inconvenient.
 

Emily65Roses

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I'm open pretty much everywhere. I'm open to my friends and family. I'm open at school. I'm open at the volunteering I have to do for school.

I am not, however, always open at work. At least not immediately. And here's why: When I was 17, I got a job at a kennel. After one week's work, I had to go into the hospital for IVs. One of my very first rounds. I was out for 4 days. I called her to let her know what was up, told her I was sorry, etc. The next week, when I got out of the hospital, PICC LINE STILL IN, I went back to work. She fired me on the spot, saying it was too inconvenient.
 

Emily65Roses

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I'm open pretty much everywhere. I'm open to my friends and family. I'm open at school. I'm open at the volunteering I have to do for school.

I am not, however, always open at work. At least not immediately. And here's why: When I was 17, I got a job at a kennel. After one week's work, I had to go into the hospital for IVs. One of my very first rounds. I was out for 4 days. I called her to let her know what was up, told her I was sorry, etc. The next week, when I got out of the hospital, PICC LINE STILL IN, I went back to work. She fired me on the spot, saying it was too inconvenient.
 

Lilith

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Fired you for having a genetic illness? Hmm...isn't that ILLEGAL!? Gawd, what a...eh, you can probably guess <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 

Lilith

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Fired you for having a genetic illness? Hmm...isn't that ILLEGAL!? Gawd, what a...eh, you can probably guess <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 

Lilith

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Fired you for having a genetic illness? Hmm...isn't that ILLEGAL!? Gawd, what a...eh, you can probably guess <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 

LouLou

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I think it's most appropriate for the person with cf to call the shots about who knows and who doesn't. It's a challenging topic that isn't one size fits all...like so many things with cf. For example, someone who goes into the hospital for regular tuneups is going to have a lot more to explain to their schoolmates than someone like me that never was hospitalized from age 5-18. I was very open about it when I was in elementary school and then had an 'incident' in junior high. From that point onward, I only told people after they had known me for a while and then even then I only gave the full talk to dear friends. In high school I would enter most new relationships - friends and boyfriends - without them knowing and then I would disclose when it came up...taking pills, having to do treatments, pt, etc. My mom would often tell friend's mothers about my cf probably so they wouldn't worry I was going to get their kids sick.

Regarding work, I never ever would mention it during an interview. My parents coached me about discrimination and how I should be judged for who I am and what I am capable of without the added complication of the employer knowing I have cf. They may have started this too young and been part of the blame for my "I'm better and healthier than all you other cfers" attitude that I still work through. Although I think it was a way of life and the way my parents motivated me to stay healthy. If I could count the number of times I got the lecture about doing what I can to maintain lung function for when the cure comes it will only stop it in its tracks not take away any damage. And how I was blessed to be so healthy (as compared with most with cf) and how it wouldn't always be this way if I didn't take care of myself. I am glad my parents did this training. My parents were also open about the fact that I really, really need insurance from a young age and how I needed to do what I could to maintain that. They might have crossed the line to tell me that they are pretty sure that my dad was likely once let go because of the effect I had on the company's insurance policy but either way it was a good lesson for me to add to my "insurance" knowledge. Lately, I am more open about my cf. I enjoy informing strangers. I feel empowered and like I'm special :) Fundraising and awareness are the root of my openness these days. Most recently I solicated my whole company to join my Great Strides team... at the very least I hope the majority will make a donation.

I find it takes about 6-12 months on a job to get the recognition that I'm very appreciated before I drop the cf bomb on them. I like to show that I am more capable of an employee than most and that I am not a liability. Of recently, I've learned it's only as big a deal as I make it. People are starting to "get it" that there are varying degrees of cf. Especially, after they've seen me at work often taking less sick days than the "healthy" employee.
 

LouLou

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I think it's most appropriate for the person with cf to call the shots about who knows and who doesn't. It's a challenging topic that isn't one size fits all...like so many things with cf. For example, someone who goes into the hospital for regular tuneups is going to have a lot more to explain to their schoolmates than someone like me that never was hospitalized from age 5-18. I was very open about it when I was in elementary school and then had an 'incident' in junior high. From that point onward, I only told people after they had known me for a while and then even then I only gave the full talk to dear friends. In high school I would enter most new relationships - friends and boyfriends - without them knowing and then I would disclose when it came up...taking pills, having to do treatments, pt, etc. My mom would often tell friend's mothers about my cf probably so they wouldn't worry I was going to get their kids sick.

Regarding work, I never ever would mention it during an interview. My parents coached me about discrimination and how I should be judged for who I am and what I am capable of without the added complication of the employer knowing I have cf. They may have started this too young and been part of the blame for my "I'm better and healthier than all you other cfers" attitude that I still work through. Although I think it was a way of life and the way my parents motivated me to stay healthy. If I could count the number of times I got the lecture about doing what I can to maintain lung function for when the cure comes it will only stop it in its tracks not take away any damage. And how I was blessed to be so healthy (as compared with most with cf) and how it wouldn't always be this way if I didn't take care of myself. I am glad my parents did this training. My parents were also open about the fact that I really, really need insurance from a young age and how I needed to do what I could to maintain that. They might have crossed the line to tell me that they are pretty sure that my dad was likely once let go because of the effect I had on the company's insurance policy but either way it was a good lesson for me to add to my "insurance" knowledge. Lately, I am more open about my cf. I enjoy informing strangers. I feel empowered and like I'm special :) Fundraising and awareness are the root of my openness these days. Most recently I solicated my whole company to join my Great Strides team... at the very least I hope the majority will make a donation.

I find it takes about 6-12 months on a job to get the recognition that I'm very appreciated before I drop the cf bomb on them. I like to show that I am more capable of an employee than most and that I am not a liability. Of recently, I've learned it's only as big a deal as I make it. People are starting to "get it" that there are varying degrees of cf. Especially, after they've seen me at work often taking less sick days than the "healthy" employee.
 
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