The Presidential Debates

Mockingbird

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>65rosessamurai</b></i>
No-No! Giving a Politician an I.Q. Test and a Common Sense test with a little bit of a "Scruples" test would be fair, but to insinuate that all voters are to be "smart" doesn't abide by the Constitution.

Besides, from who was listed as "smart" and having a "High IQ" probably knew little or nothing about politics to make an "educated" decision to select political leaders, so being a "Rocket Scientist" is just that....Intellegence is insigificant for when it comes time to vote...however, even the, as you say, "unintellegent" (in conjunction with the "intellegent"), were to pick up a little on what is going on in the political world may actually be able to make an "educated" decision, especially in comparison to someone who just closes their eyes, or plays "Rock-Paper-Scissors", or "Eenie-Minie-Mo" and presses the "Vote" button to decide!

Rather than to be concerned about the "mental yahoos" who vote (it's their given freedom as US Citizens), shouldn't America be concerned about the non-citizen or illegal aliens who are flooding the country with their votes?! I understand that the non-citizens of the US are voting now..that's something new since I recall somewhere that you first had to be a citizen to vote!

Oh, and be sure the ballot is written in ENGLISH, too!

I'm sure the "mental yahoos" are still going to be outnumbered by those who are more fit, but the deal with non-citizens voting is Anti-American and Unconstitutional!

That's my two yen!</end quote></div>

That, I agree with.

As for the debate on Tuesday, I thought McCain had Obama against the ropes. Twice Obama had to ask for a follow-up (which wasn't supposed to be allowed) and Obama himself said he was trying to keep up with McCain.

I liked when McCain pointed out how Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac were being encouraged by democrats to give out risky loans. Democrats had good intentions; they wanted people to have the opportunity to own their own homes, but now people are losing their homes because of it. Even the far left is acknowledging this; Alec Baldwin spoke about it on the Bill Maher show, and Saturday Night Live had a skit about it.

When they were asked about who they would appoint to treasury secretary, McCain showed once again his ability to reach across party lines by mentioning Warren Buffet. Obama however, couldn't mention anyone else and just went off on a tangent about his economic policy.

If you want to talk about health care, Obama said clearly health care was not his top priority. He said we'd have to fix energy first. McCain responded: <div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Look, we can attack health care and energy at the same time. We're not rifle shots here. We are Americans. We can, with the participation of all Americans, work together and solve these problems together.

Frankly, I'm not going to tell that person without health insurance that, "I'm sorry, you'll have to wait." I'm going to tell you Americans we'll get to work right away and we'll get to work together, and we can get them all done, because that's what America has been doing.</end quote></div>

Obama says health care is a right, like its just supposed to drop out of thin air. McCain made it clear that health care is a responsibility; it's something we need to work on; and it's going to take a lot of work.

As for speaking softly, right after that discussion, Tom Brokaw asked if Russia was an evil empire, and Obama said Russia was engaged in evil activity and was dangerous. McCain, however, said, "Maybe. Depends on how we respond to Russia and it depends on a lot of things. If I say yes, then that means that we're reigniting the old Cold War. If I say no, it ignores their behavior." So, even though McCain may have made a few inappropriate jokes or comments, he really is the better canidate on foreign policy.

When people say Obama seemed more presidential, that just makes me think he's more of a politician; he's a smooth talker and he knows how to build up his own image, but that's about it. I though McCain seemed much more honest and trustworthy. That's who I want in the White House right now. I don't think the election is over. Some polls show McCain is falling, other polls show McCain is gaining; almost even with Obama.
 

Mockingbird

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>65rosessamurai</b></i>
No-No! Giving a Politician an I.Q. Test and a Common Sense test with a little bit of a "Scruples" test would be fair, but to insinuate that all voters are to be "smart" doesn't abide by the Constitution.

Besides, from who was listed as "smart" and having a "High IQ" probably knew little or nothing about politics to make an "educated" decision to select political leaders, so being a "Rocket Scientist" is just that....Intellegence is insigificant for when it comes time to vote...however, even the, as you say, "unintellegent" (in conjunction with the "intellegent"), were to pick up a little on what is going on in the political world may actually be able to make an "educated" decision, especially in comparison to someone who just closes their eyes, or plays "Rock-Paper-Scissors", or "Eenie-Minie-Mo" and presses the "Vote" button to decide!

Rather than to be concerned about the "mental yahoos" who vote (it's their given freedom as US Citizens), shouldn't America be concerned about the non-citizen or illegal aliens who are flooding the country with their votes?! I understand that the non-citizens of the US are voting now..that's something new since I recall somewhere that you first had to be a citizen to vote!

Oh, and be sure the ballot is written in ENGLISH, too!

I'm sure the "mental yahoos" are still going to be outnumbered by those who are more fit, but the deal with non-citizens voting is Anti-American and Unconstitutional!

That's my two yen!</end quote></div>

That, I agree with.

As for the debate on Tuesday, I thought McCain had Obama against the ropes. Twice Obama had to ask for a follow-up (which wasn't supposed to be allowed) and Obama himself said he was trying to keep up with McCain.

I liked when McCain pointed out how Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac were being encouraged by democrats to give out risky loans. Democrats had good intentions; they wanted people to have the opportunity to own their own homes, but now people are losing their homes because of it. Even the far left is acknowledging this; Alec Baldwin spoke about it on the Bill Maher show, and Saturday Night Live had a skit about it.

When they were asked about who they would appoint to treasury secretary, McCain showed once again his ability to reach across party lines by mentioning Warren Buffet. Obama however, couldn't mention anyone else and just went off on a tangent about his economic policy.

If you want to talk about health care, Obama said clearly health care was not his top priority. He said we'd have to fix energy first. McCain responded: <div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Look, we can attack health care and energy at the same time. We're not rifle shots here. We are Americans. We can, with the participation of all Americans, work together and solve these problems together.

Frankly, I'm not going to tell that person without health insurance that, "I'm sorry, you'll have to wait." I'm going to tell you Americans we'll get to work right away and we'll get to work together, and we can get them all done, because that's what America has been doing.</end quote></div>

Obama says health care is a right, like its just supposed to drop out of thin air. McCain made it clear that health care is a responsibility; it's something we need to work on; and it's going to take a lot of work.

As for speaking softly, right after that discussion, Tom Brokaw asked if Russia was an evil empire, and Obama said Russia was engaged in evil activity and was dangerous. McCain, however, said, "Maybe. Depends on how we respond to Russia and it depends on a lot of things. If I say yes, then that means that we're reigniting the old Cold War. If I say no, it ignores their behavior." So, even though McCain may have made a few inappropriate jokes or comments, he really is the better canidate on foreign policy.

When people say Obama seemed more presidential, that just makes me think he's more of a politician; he's a smooth talker and he knows how to build up his own image, but that's about it. I though McCain seemed much more honest and trustworthy. That's who I want in the White House right now. I don't think the election is over. Some polls show McCain is falling, other polls show McCain is gaining; almost even with Obama.
 

Mockingbird

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>65rosessamurai</b></i>
No-No! Giving a Politician an I.Q. Test and a Common Sense test with a little bit of a "Scruples" test would be fair, but to insinuate that all voters are to be "smart" doesn't abide by the Constitution.

Besides, from who was listed as "smart" and having a "High IQ" probably knew little or nothing about politics to make an "educated" decision to select political leaders, so being a "Rocket Scientist" is just that....Intellegence is insigificant for when it comes time to vote...however, even the, as you say, "unintellegent" (in conjunction with the "intellegent"), were to pick up a little on what is going on in the political world may actually be able to make an "educated" decision, especially in comparison to someone who just closes their eyes, or plays "Rock-Paper-Scissors", or "Eenie-Minie-Mo" and presses the "Vote" button to decide!

Rather than to be concerned about the "mental yahoos" who vote (it's their given freedom as US Citizens), shouldn't America be concerned about the non-citizen or illegal aliens who are flooding the country with their votes?! I understand that the non-citizens of the US are voting now..that's something new since I recall somewhere that you first had to be a citizen to vote!

Oh, and be sure the ballot is written in ENGLISH, too!

I'm sure the "mental yahoos" are still going to be outnumbered by those who are more fit, but the deal with non-citizens voting is Anti-American and Unconstitutional!

That's my two yen!</end quote></div>

That, I agree with.

As for the debate on Tuesday, I thought McCain had Obama against the ropes. Twice Obama had to ask for a follow-up (which wasn't supposed to be allowed) and Obama himself said he was trying to keep up with McCain.

I liked when McCain pointed out how Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac were being encouraged by democrats to give out risky loans. Democrats had good intentions; they wanted people to have the opportunity to own their own homes, but now people are losing their homes because of it. Even the far left is acknowledging this; Alec Baldwin spoke about it on the Bill Maher show, and Saturday Night Live had a skit about it.

When they were asked about who they would appoint to treasury secretary, McCain showed once again his ability to reach across party lines by mentioning Warren Buffet. Obama however, couldn't mention anyone else and just went off on a tangent about his economic policy.

If you want to talk about health care, Obama said clearly health care was not his top priority. He said we'd have to fix energy first. McCain responded: <div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Look, we can attack health care and energy at the same time. We're not rifle shots here. We are Americans. We can, with the participation of all Americans, work together and solve these problems together.

Frankly, I'm not going to tell that person without health insurance that, "I'm sorry, you'll have to wait." I'm going to tell you Americans we'll get to work right away and we'll get to work together, and we can get them all done, because that's what America has been doing.</end quote></div>

Obama says health care is a right, like its just supposed to drop out of thin air. McCain made it clear that health care is a responsibility; it's something we need to work on; and it's going to take a lot of work.

As for speaking softly, right after that discussion, Tom Brokaw asked if Russia was an evil empire, and Obama said Russia was engaged in evil activity and was dangerous. McCain, however, said, "Maybe. Depends on how we respond to Russia and it depends on a lot of things. If I say yes, then that means that we're reigniting the old Cold War. If I say no, it ignores their behavior." So, even though McCain may have made a few inappropriate jokes or comments, he really is the better canidate on foreign policy.

When people say Obama seemed more presidential, that just makes me think he's more of a politician; he's a smooth talker and he knows how to build up his own image, but that's about it. I though McCain seemed much more honest and trustworthy. That's who I want in the White House right now. I don't think the election is over. Some polls show McCain is falling, other polls show McCain is gaining; almost even with Obama.
 

Mockingbird

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>65rosessamurai</b></i>
No-No! Giving a Politician an I.Q. Test and a Common Sense test with a little bit of a "Scruples" test would be fair, but to insinuate that all voters are to be "smart" doesn't abide by the Constitution.

Besides, from who was listed as "smart" and having a "High IQ" probably knew little or nothing about politics to make an "educated" decision to select political leaders, so being a "Rocket Scientist" is just that....Intellegence is insigificant for when it comes time to vote...however, even the, as you say, "unintellegent" (in conjunction with the "intellegent"), were to pick up a little on what is going on in the political world may actually be able to make an "educated" decision, especially in comparison to someone who just closes their eyes, or plays "Rock-Paper-Scissors", or "Eenie-Minie-Mo" and presses the "Vote" button to decide!

Rather than to be concerned about the "mental yahoos" who vote (it's their given freedom as US Citizens), shouldn't America be concerned about the non-citizen or illegal aliens who are flooding the country with their votes?! I understand that the non-citizens of the US are voting now..that's something new since I recall somewhere that you first had to be a citizen to vote!

Oh, and be sure the ballot is written in ENGLISH, too!

I'm sure the "mental yahoos" are still going to be outnumbered by those who are more fit, but the deal with non-citizens voting is Anti-American and Unconstitutional!

That's my two yen!</end quote>

That, I agree with.

As for the debate on Tuesday, I thought McCain had Obama against the ropes. Twice Obama had to ask for a follow-up (which wasn't supposed to be allowed) and Obama himself said he was trying to keep up with McCain.

I liked when McCain pointed out how Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac were being encouraged by democrats to give out risky loans. Democrats had good intentions; they wanted people to have the opportunity to own their own homes, but now people are losing their homes because of it. Even the far left is acknowledging this; Alec Baldwin spoke about it on the Bill Maher show, and Saturday Night Live had a skit about it.

When they were asked about who they would appoint to treasury secretary, McCain showed once again his ability to reach across party lines by mentioning Warren Buffet. Obama however, couldn't mention anyone else and just went off on a tangent about his economic policy.

If you want to talk about health care, Obama said clearly health care was not his top priority. He said we'd have to fix energy first. McCain responded: <div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Look, we can attack health care and energy at the same time. We're not rifle shots here. We are Americans. We can, with the participation of all Americans, work together and solve these problems together.

Frankly, I'm not going to tell that person without health insurance that, "I'm sorry, you'll have to wait." I'm going to tell you Americans we'll get to work right away and we'll get to work together, and we can get them all done, because that's what America has been doing.</end quote>

Obama says health care is a right, like its just supposed to drop out of thin air. McCain made it clear that health care is a responsibility; it's something we need to work on; and it's going to take a lot of work.

As for speaking softly, right after that discussion, Tom Brokaw asked if Russia was an evil empire, and Obama said Russia was engaged in evil activity and was dangerous. McCain, however, said, "Maybe. Depends on how we respond to Russia and it depends on a lot of things. If I say yes, then that means that we're reigniting the old Cold War. If I say no, it ignores their behavior." So, even though McCain may have made a few inappropriate jokes or comments, he really is the better canidate on foreign policy.

When people say Obama seemed more presidential, that just makes me think he's more of a politician; he's a smooth talker and he knows how to build up his own image, but that's about it. I though McCain seemed much more honest and trustworthy. That's who I want in the White House right now. I don't think the election is over. Some polls show McCain is falling, other polls show McCain is gaining; almost even with Obama.
 

Mockingbird

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>65rosessamurai</b></i>
<br />No-No! Giving a Politician an I.Q. Test and a Common Sense test with a little bit of a "Scruples" test would be fair, but to insinuate that all voters are to be "smart" doesn't abide by the Constitution.
<br />
<br />Besides, from who was listed as "smart" and having a "High IQ" probably knew little or nothing about politics to make an "educated" decision to select political leaders, so being a "Rocket Scientist" is just that....Intellegence is insigificant for when it comes time to vote...however, even the, as you say, "unintellegent" (in conjunction with the "intellegent"), were to pick up a little on what is going on in the political world may actually be able to make an "educated" decision, especially in comparison to someone who just closes their eyes, or plays "Rock-Paper-Scissors", or "Eenie-Minie-Mo" and presses the "Vote" button to decide!
<br />
<br />Rather than to be concerned about the "mental yahoos" who vote (it's their given freedom as US Citizens), shouldn't America be concerned about the non-citizen or illegal aliens who are flooding the country with their votes?! I understand that the non-citizens of the US are voting now..that's something new since I recall somewhere that you first had to be a citizen to vote!
<br />
<br />Oh, and be sure the ballot is written in ENGLISH, too!
<br />
<br />I'm sure the "mental yahoos" are still going to be outnumbered by those who are more fit, but the deal with non-citizens voting is Anti-American and Unconstitutional!
<br />
<br />That's my two yen!</end quote>
<br />
<br />That, I agree with.
<br />
<br />As for the debate on Tuesday, I thought McCain had Obama against the ropes. Twice Obama had to ask for a follow-up (which wasn't supposed to be allowed) and Obama himself said he was trying to keep up with McCain.
<br />
<br />I liked when McCain pointed out how Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac were being encouraged by democrats to give out risky loans. Democrats had good intentions; they wanted people to have the opportunity to own their own homes, but now people are losing their homes because of it. Even the far left is acknowledging this; Alec Baldwin spoke about it on the Bill Maher show, and Saturday Night Live had a skit about it.
<br />
<br />When they were asked about who they would appoint to treasury secretary, McCain showed once again his ability to reach across party lines by mentioning Warren Buffet. Obama however, couldn't mention anyone else and just went off on a tangent about his economic policy.
<br />
<br />If you want to talk about health care, Obama said clearly health care was not his top priority. He said we'd have to fix energy first. McCain responded: <div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Look, we can attack health care and energy at the same time. We're not rifle shots here. We are Americans. We can, with the participation of all Americans, work together and solve these problems together.
<br />
<br />Frankly, I'm not going to tell that person without health insurance that, "I'm sorry, you'll have to wait." I'm going to tell you Americans we'll get to work right away and we'll get to work together, and we can get them all done, because that's what America has been doing.</end quote>
<br />
<br />Obama says health care is a right, like its just supposed to drop out of thin air. McCain made it clear that health care is a responsibility; it's something we need to work on; and it's going to take a lot of work.
<br />
<br />As for speaking softly, right after that discussion, Tom Brokaw asked if Russia was an evil empire, and Obama said Russia was engaged in evil activity and was dangerous. McCain, however, said, "Maybe. Depends on how we respond to Russia and it depends on a lot of things. If I say yes, then that means that we're reigniting the old Cold War. If I say no, it ignores their behavior." So, even though McCain may have made a few inappropriate jokes or comments, he really is the better canidate on foreign policy.
<br />
<br />When people say Obama seemed more presidential, that just makes me think he's more of a politician; he's a smooth talker and he knows how to build up his own image, but that's about it. I though McCain seemed much more honest and trustworthy. That's who I want in the White House right now. I don't think the election is over. Some polls show McCain is falling, other polls show McCain is gaining; almost even with Obama.
 

Solo

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>65rosessamurai</b></i>
Intellegence is insigificant for when it comes time to vote</end quote></div>

Hence we get 8 years of George W Bush. Hence we nose dive into a misguided war with Iraq.
 

Solo

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>65rosessamurai</b></i>
Intellegence is insigificant for when it comes time to vote</end quote></div>

Hence we get 8 years of George W Bush. Hence we nose dive into a misguided war with Iraq.
 

Solo

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>65rosessamurai</b></i>
Intellegence is insigificant for when it comes time to vote</end quote></div>

Hence we get 8 years of George W Bush. Hence we nose dive into a misguided war with Iraq.
 

Solo

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>65rosessamurai</b></i>
Intellegence is insigificant for when it comes time to vote</end quote>

Hence we get 8 years of George W Bush. Hence we nose dive into a misguided war with Iraq.
 

Solo

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>65rosessamurai</b></i>
<br />Intellegence is insigificant for when it comes time to vote</end quote>
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<br />Hence we get 8 years of George W Bush. Hence we nose dive into a misguided war with Iraq.
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Brad

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I have to say that an I Q Test would have saved us from the last almost 8 years
of George W.. Just guessing but I bet he would score around 70....
 

Brad

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I have to say that an I Q Test would have saved us from the last almost 8 years
of George W.. Just guessing but I bet he would score around 70....
 

Brad

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I have to say that an I Q Test would have saved us from the last almost 8 years
of George W.. Just guessing but I bet he would score around 70....
 

Brad

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I have to say that an I Q Test would have saved us from the last almost 8 years
of George W.. Just guessing but I bet he would score around 70....
 

Brad

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I have to say that an I Q Test would have saved us from the last almost 8 years
<br /> of George W.. Just guessing but I bet he would score around 70....
 

just1more

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Hate to break your bubble Brad, but frankly George W's IQ is probably higher than most our population.

He is an Ivy League grad, and regardless of what some might say, the fact is he is not dumb. He is just out of touch with the world.
 

just1more

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Hate to break your bubble Brad, but frankly George W's IQ is probably higher than most our population.

He is an Ivy League grad, and regardless of what some might say, the fact is he is not dumb. He is just out of touch with the world.
 

just1more

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Hate to break your bubble Brad, but frankly George W's IQ is probably higher than most our population.

He is an Ivy League grad, and regardless of what some might say, the fact is he is not dumb. He is just out of touch with the world.
 

just1more

New member
Hate to break your bubble Brad, but frankly George W's IQ is probably higher than most our population.

He is an Ivy League grad, and regardless of what some might say, the fact is he is not dumb. He is just out of touch with the world.
 

just1more

New member
Hate to break your bubble Brad, but frankly George W's IQ is probably higher than most our population.
<br />
<br />He is an Ivy League grad, and regardless of what some might say, the fact is he is not dumb. He is just out of touch with the world.
 
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