Oh, I forgot to mention that, too- I have a stock pot (4 quart I think) that mine fit in, and it takes 17 minutes (if I fill it with hot water) for mine to start boiling and to boil for 10 minutes. I also use a lid (search here for "Pari pie" for that reason, eek) and I set a timer- one that I <i>have</i> to get up and turn off.