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Faust

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I guess i'm the odd man out. There are tons and tons and tons of people on earth, and in my/your area who are very nice catches, and out of those people, a smaller percentage could be very close life partners. I'm 36, and have been in very good/close, immensely loving relationships. Maybe 3 out of 10 of those have been VERY much so, as in marriage till death do you part level. I have also met females who I was very attracted to both inside and out, who happened to be CF's as well. I knew the level of problems that would come along with dating another CF'r, and didn't subject myself to that.

I will say that it would be different if say you met someone, hung out a while, and massively fell for them soul mate wise, and THEN after a while found out you both were cystics. But seriously, how often does that happen? After a month or so max you would share your routine with them, and them you. Usually by a month, most people who aren't a tad bit "off" or ultra lonely won't fall head over heels for someone.


People seem very one sided in this discussion, very pro "The CF's should embrace their love and deal with it, life is too short, yada yada yada, etc". Two CF's being together, even who are VERY much in love, is admittedly abusive. The cross infection, giving each other bugs, sinus crap, you name it. While different, if two people were equally in love, but one was say a flaming alcoholic and or abusive to the other person in that way, i'm sure you guys would advocate them not to be together, atleast after realizing things weren't going to change (especially the women on here if it were the guy who was abusive due to their problems).


If you seriously take a step back, and realize just how many decent future mates are out there who you can have a wonderful, ultra loving relationship with...Why would anyone advocate two cystics be together, and cause nothing but problems for each other in a myriad of ways? I tend to take off the rose colored glasses and try to see things for what they are, even if it's not all that popular.
 
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Faust

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I guess i'm the odd man out. There are tons and tons and tons of people on earth, and in my/your area who are very nice catches, and out of those people, a smaller percentage could be very close life partners. I'm 36, and have been in very good/close, immensely loving relationships. Maybe 3 out of 10 of those have been VERY much so, as in marriage till death do you part level. I have also met females who I was very attracted to both inside and out, who happened to be CF's as well. I knew the level of problems that would come along with dating another CF'r, and didn't subject myself to that.

I will say that it would be different if say you met someone, hung out a while, and massively fell for them soul mate wise, and THEN after a while found out you both were cystics. But seriously, how often does that happen? After a month or so max you would share your routine with them, and them you. Usually by a month, most people who aren't a tad bit "off" or ultra lonely won't fall head over heels for someone.


People seem very one sided in this discussion, very pro "The CF's should embrace their love and deal with it, life is too short, yada yada yada, etc". Two CF's being together, even who are VERY much in love, is admittedly abusive. The cross infection, giving each other bugs, sinus crap, you name it. While different, if two people were equally in love, but one was say a flaming alcoholic and or abusive to the other person in that way, i'm sure you guys would advocate them not to be together, atleast after realizing things weren't going to change (especially the women on here if it were the guy who was abusive due to their problems).


If you seriously take a step back, and realize just how many decent future mates are out there who you can have a wonderful, ultra loving relationship with...Why would anyone advocate two cystics be together, and cause nothing but problems for each other in a myriad of ways? I tend to take off the rose colored glasses and try to see things for what they are, even if it's not all that popular.
 
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Faust

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I guess i'm the odd man out. There are tons and tons and tons of people on earth, and in my/your area who are very nice catches, and out of those people, a smaller percentage could be very close life partners. I'm 36, and have been in very good/close, immensely loving relationships. Maybe 3 out of 10 of those have been VERY much so, as in marriage till death do you part level. I have also met females who I was very attracted to both inside and out, who happened to be CF's as well. I knew the level of problems that would come along with dating another CF'r, and didn't subject myself to that.

I will say that it would be different if say you met someone, hung out a while, and massively fell for them soul mate wise, and THEN after a while found out you both were cystics. But seriously, how often does that happen? After a month or so max you would share your routine with them, and them you. Usually by a month, most people who aren't a tad bit "off" or ultra lonely won't fall head over heels for someone.


People seem very one sided in this discussion, very pro "The CF's should embrace their love and deal with it, life is too short, yada yada yada, etc". Two CF's being together, even who are VERY much in love, is admittedly abusive. The cross infection, giving each other bugs, sinus crap, you name it. While different, if two people were equally in love, but one was say a flaming alcoholic and or abusive to the other person in that way, i'm sure you guys would advocate them not to be together, atleast after realizing things weren't going to change (especially the women on here if it were the guy who was abusive due to their problems).


If you seriously take a step back, and realize just how many decent future mates are out there who you can have a wonderful, ultra loving relationship with...Why would anyone advocate two cystics be together, and cause nothing but problems for each other in a myriad of ways? I tend to take off the rose colored glasses and try to see things for what they are, even if it's not all that popular.
 
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Faust

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I guess i'm the odd man out. There are tons and tons and tons of people on earth, and in my/your area who are very nice catches, and out of those people, a smaller percentage could be very close life partners. I'm 36, and have been in very good/close, immensely loving relationships. Maybe 3 out of 10 of those have been VERY much so, as in marriage till death do you part level. I have also met females who I was very attracted to both inside and out, who happened to be CF's as well. I knew the level of problems that would come along with dating another CF'r, and didn't subject myself to that.

I will say that it would be different if say you met someone, hung out a while, and massively fell for them soul mate wise, and THEN after a while found out you both were cystics. But seriously, how often does that happen? After a month or so max you would share your routine with them, and them you. Usually by a month, most people who aren't a tad bit "off" or ultra lonely won't fall head over heels for someone.


People seem very one sided in this discussion, very pro "The CF's should embrace their love and deal with it, life is too short, yada yada yada, etc". Two CF's being together, even who are VERY much in love, is admittedly abusive. The cross infection, giving each other bugs, sinus crap, you name it. While different, if two people were equally in love, but one was say a flaming alcoholic and or abusive to the other person in that way, i'm sure you guys would advocate them not to be together, atleast after realizing things weren't going to change (especially the women on here if it were the guy who was abusive due to their problems).


If you seriously take a step back, and realize just how many decent future mates are out there who you can have a wonderful, ultra loving relationship with...Why would anyone advocate two cystics be together, and cause nothing but problems for each other in a myriad of ways? I tend to take off the rose colored glasses and try to see things for what they are, even if it's not all that popular.
 
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Faust

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I guess i'm the odd man out. There are tons and tons and tons of people on earth, and in my/your area who are very nice catches, and out of those people, a smaller percentage could be very close life partners. I'm 36, and have been in very good/close, immensely loving relationships. Maybe 3 out of 10 of those have been VERY much so, as in marriage till death do you part level. I have also met females who I was very attracted to both inside and out, who happened to be CF's as well. I knew the level of problems that would come along with dating another CF'r, and didn't subject myself to that.
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<br />I will say that it would be different if say you met someone, hung out a while, and massively fell for them soul mate wise, and THEN after a while found out you both were cystics. But seriously, how often does that happen? After a month or so max you would share your routine with them, and them you. Usually by a month, most people who aren't a tad bit "off" or ultra lonely won't fall head over heels for someone.
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<br />People seem very one sided in this discussion, very pro "The CF's should embrace their love and deal with it, life is too short, yada yada yada, etc". Two CF's being together, even who are VERY much in love, is admittedly abusive. The cross infection, giving each other bugs, sinus crap, you name it. While different, if two people were equally in love, but one was say a flaming alcoholic and or abusive to the other person in that way, i'm sure you guys would advocate them not to be together, atleast after realizing things weren't going to change (especially the women on here if it were the guy who was abusive due to their problems).
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<br />If you seriously take a step back, and realize just how many decent future mates are out there who you can have a wonderful, ultra loving relationship with...Why would anyone advocate two cystics be together, and cause nothing but problems for each other in a myriad of ways? I tend to take off the rose colored glasses and try to see things for what they are, even if it's not all that popular.
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kswitch

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what's troubling about your position, sd, is that you're not simply stating that being with another cystic is not right for you, but implying that it should not happen under any circumstances. if it's not a risk you're not willing to take, that's fine, but to suggest that two cystics being together constitutes some kind of abuse? well, that's convoluted and absurd.

i completely respect your not wanting to engage in or advocate a situation that you perceive to be troublesome, and there's nothing wrong with stating an unpopular position. what bothers me here, is that you question the agency of other cystics who wish to decide for themselves how far they will go for love. you undermine personal experiences and choices by questioning why anyone would do this and labeling such behavior as abusive.
 
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kswitch

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what's troubling about your position, sd, is that you're not simply stating that being with another cystic is not right for you, but implying that it should not happen under any circumstances. if it's not a risk you're not willing to take, that's fine, but to suggest that two cystics being together constitutes some kind of abuse? well, that's convoluted and absurd.

i completely respect your not wanting to engage in or advocate a situation that you perceive to be troublesome, and there's nothing wrong with stating an unpopular position. what bothers me here, is that you question the agency of other cystics who wish to decide for themselves how far they will go for love. you undermine personal experiences and choices by questioning why anyone would do this and labeling such behavior as abusive.
 
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kswitch

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what's troubling about your position, sd, is that you're not simply stating that being with another cystic is not right for you, but implying that it should not happen under any circumstances. if it's not a risk you're not willing to take, that's fine, but to suggest that two cystics being together constitutes some kind of abuse? well, that's convoluted and absurd.

i completely respect your not wanting to engage in or advocate a situation that you perceive to be troublesome, and there's nothing wrong with stating an unpopular position. what bothers me here, is that you question the agency of other cystics who wish to decide for themselves how far they will go for love. you undermine personal experiences and choices by questioning why anyone would do this and labeling such behavior as abusive.
 
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kswitch

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what's troubling about your position, sd, is that you're not simply stating that being with another cystic is not right for you, but implying that it should not happen under any circumstances. if it's not a risk you're not willing to take, that's fine, but to suggest that two cystics being together constitutes some kind of abuse? well, that's convoluted and absurd.

i completely respect your not wanting to engage in or advocate a situation that you perceive to be troublesome, and there's nothing wrong with stating an unpopular position. what bothers me here, is that you question the agency of other cystics who wish to decide for themselves how far they will go for love. you undermine personal experiences and choices by questioning why anyone would do this and labeling such behavior as abusive.
 
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kswitch

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what's troubling about your position, sd, is that you're not simply stating that being with another cystic is not right for you, but implying that it should not happen under any circumstances. if it's not a risk you're not willing to take, that's fine, but to suggest that two cystics being together constitutes some kind of abuse? well, that's convoluted and absurd.
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<br />i completely respect your not wanting to engage in or advocate a situation that you perceive to be troublesome, and there's nothing wrong with stating an unpopular position. what bothers me here, is that you question the agency of other cystics who wish to decide for themselves how far they will go for love. you undermine personal experiences and choices by questioning why anyone would do this and labeling such behavior as abusive.
 
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bittyhorse23

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Faust</b></i>

People seem very one sided in this discussion, very pro "The CF's should embrace their love and deal with it, life is too short, yada yada yada, etc". Two CF's being together, even who are VERY much in love, is admittedly abusive. The cross infection, giving each other bugs, sinus crap, you name it. While different, if two people were equally in love, but one was say a flaming alcoholic and or abusive to the other person in that way, i'm sure you guys would advocate them not to be together, atleast after realizing things weren't going to change (especially the women on here if it were the guy who was abusive due to their problems).

If you seriously take a step back, and realize just how many decent future mates are out there who you can have a wonderful, ultra loving relationship with...Why would anyone advocate two cystics be together, and cause nothing but problems for each other in a myriad of ways? I tend to take off the rose colored glasses and try to see things for what they are, even if it's not all that popular.</end quote></div>

I can see your point about the cross contamination factors but if they are BOTH WELL AWARE then let them be. They are adults and will do what they want no matter what. I se the abusive standpoint, and I don't disagree, I also don't agree. I stand in the middle I guess.

The alcoholic situation - I wouldn't say leave the relationship if the alcoholic was getting help. If they were destroying their spouses' life and even children and not getting help then yeah get out. Alcoholism is a disease that can be treated. Just like CF. If two CFers were dating and one was super compliant and the other one was a slacker and had B.Cep I would tell the compliant CFer to seriously consider it. And to ask themself if the love is TRULY worth their life. If they say yes then ok. If they say no, then they get out.

It also depends on your outlook about love. For some, it is a soul-mate deal. For others, love can come and go like the seasons. You obviously feel that you can fall in love with someone under the "right" circumstances. Don't take offense or take it in a wrong way. I am making an observation. I am NOT saying your outlook is wrong. I don't want that thought. For me, I believe in soul mates and the "one". I think that you can fall in love with people and settle for them and I think alot of people just settle and not search or wait for their "one". Thats my opinion...it's not right or wrong just how I feel about it. So for me, if I were to find that "one" person and he happened to have CF, then d*m right I would risk my life. I'm a sappy romantic what can I say <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 
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bittyhorse23

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Faust</b></i>

People seem very one sided in this discussion, very pro "The CF's should embrace their love and deal with it, life is too short, yada yada yada, etc". Two CF's being together, even who are VERY much in love, is admittedly abusive. The cross infection, giving each other bugs, sinus crap, you name it. While different, if two people were equally in love, but one was say a flaming alcoholic and or abusive to the other person in that way, i'm sure you guys would advocate them not to be together, atleast after realizing things weren't going to change (especially the women on here if it were the guy who was abusive due to their problems).

If you seriously take a step back, and realize just how many decent future mates are out there who you can have a wonderful, ultra loving relationship with...Why would anyone advocate two cystics be together, and cause nothing but problems for each other in a myriad of ways? I tend to take off the rose colored glasses and try to see things for what they are, even if it's not all that popular.</end quote></div>

I can see your point about the cross contamination factors but if they are BOTH WELL AWARE then let them be. They are adults and will do what they want no matter what. I se the abusive standpoint, and I don't disagree, I also don't agree. I stand in the middle I guess.

The alcoholic situation - I wouldn't say leave the relationship if the alcoholic was getting help. If they were destroying their spouses' life and even children and not getting help then yeah get out. Alcoholism is a disease that can be treated. Just like CF. If two CFers were dating and one was super compliant and the other one was a slacker and had B.Cep I would tell the compliant CFer to seriously consider it. And to ask themself if the love is TRULY worth their life. If they say yes then ok. If they say no, then they get out.

It also depends on your outlook about love. For some, it is a soul-mate deal. For others, love can come and go like the seasons. You obviously feel that you can fall in love with someone under the "right" circumstances. Don't take offense or take it in a wrong way. I am making an observation. I am NOT saying your outlook is wrong. I don't want that thought. For me, I believe in soul mates and the "one". I think that you can fall in love with people and settle for them and I think alot of people just settle and not search or wait for their "one". Thats my opinion...it's not right or wrong just how I feel about it. So for me, if I were to find that "one" person and he happened to have CF, then d*m right I would risk my life. I'm a sappy romantic what can I say <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 
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bittyhorse23

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Faust</b></i>

People seem very one sided in this discussion, very pro "The CF's should embrace their love and deal with it, life is too short, yada yada yada, etc". Two CF's being together, even who are VERY much in love, is admittedly abusive. The cross infection, giving each other bugs, sinus crap, you name it. While different, if two people were equally in love, but one was say a flaming alcoholic and or abusive to the other person in that way, i'm sure you guys would advocate them not to be together, atleast after realizing things weren't going to change (especially the women on here if it were the guy who was abusive due to their problems).

If you seriously take a step back, and realize just how many decent future mates are out there who you can have a wonderful, ultra loving relationship with...Why would anyone advocate two cystics be together, and cause nothing but problems for each other in a myriad of ways? I tend to take off the rose colored glasses and try to see things for what they are, even if it's not all that popular.</end quote></div>

I can see your point about the cross contamination factors but if they are BOTH WELL AWARE then let them be. They are adults and will do what they want no matter what. I se the abusive standpoint, and I don't disagree, I also don't agree. I stand in the middle I guess.

The alcoholic situation - I wouldn't say leave the relationship if the alcoholic was getting help. If they were destroying their spouses' life and even children and not getting help then yeah get out. Alcoholism is a disease that can be treated. Just like CF. If two CFers were dating and one was super compliant and the other one was a slacker and had B.Cep I would tell the compliant CFer to seriously consider it. And to ask themself if the love is TRULY worth their life. If they say yes then ok. If they say no, then they get out.

It also depends on your outlook about love. For some, it is a soul-mate deal. For others, love can come and go like the seasons. You obviously feel that you can fall in love with someone under the "right" circumstances. Don't take offense or take it in a wrong way. I am making an observation. I am NOT saying your outlook is wrong. I don't want that thought. For me, I believe in soul mates and the "one". I think that you can fall in love with people and settle for them and I think alot of people just settle and not search or wait for their "one". Thats my opinion...it's not right or wrong just how I feel about it. So for me, if I were to find that "one" person and he happened to have CF, then d*m right I would risk my life. I'm a sappy romantic what can I say <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 
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bittyhorse23

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Faust</b></i>

People seem very one sided in this discussion, very pro "The CF's should embrace their love and deal with it, life is too short, yada yada yada, etc". Two CF's being together, even who are VERY much in love, is admittedly abusive. The cross infection, giving each other bugs, sinus crap, you name it. While different, if two people were equally in love, but one was say a flaming alcoholic and or abusive to the other person in that way, i'm sure you guys would advocate them not to be together, atleast after realizing things weren't going to change (especially the women on here if it were the guy who was abusive due to their problems).

If you seriously take a step back, and realize just how many decent future mates are out there who you can have a wonderful, ultra loving relationship with...Why would anyone advocate two cystics be together, and cause nothing but problems for each other in a myriad of ways? I tend to take off the rose colored glasses and try to see things for what they are, even if it's not all that popular.</end quote>

I can see your point about the cross contamination factors but if they are BOTH WELL AWARE then let them be. They are adults and will do what they want no matter what. I se the abusive standpoint, and I don't disagree, I also don't agree. I stand in the middle I guess.

The alcoholic situation - I wouldn't say leave the relationship if the alcoholic was getting help. If they were destroying their spouses' life and even children and not getting help then yeah get out. Alcoholism is a disease that can be treated. Just like CF. If two CFers were dating and one was super compliant and the other one was a slacker and had B.Cep I would tell the compliant CFer to seriously consider it. And to ask themself if the love is TRULY worth their life. If they say yes then ok. If they say no, then they get out.

It also depends on your outlook about love. For some, it is a soul-mate deal. For others, love can come and go like the seasons. You obviously feel that you can fall in love with someone under the "right" circumstances. Don't take offense or take it in a wrong way. I am making an observation. I am NOT saying your outlook is wrong. I don't want that thought. For me, I believe in soul mates and the "one". I think that you can fall in love with people and settle for them and I think alot of people just settle and not search or wait for their "one". Thats my opinion...it's not right or wrong just how I feel about it. So for me, if I were to find that "one" person and he happened to have CF, then d*m right I would risk my life. I'm a sappy romantic what can I say <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 
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bittyhorse23

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Faust</b></i>
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<br />People seem very one sided in this discussion, very pro "The CF's should embrace their love and deal with it, life is too short, yada yada yada, etc". Two CF's being together, even who are VERY much in love, is admittedly abusive. The cross infection, giving each other bugs, sinus crap, you name it. While different, if two people were equally in love, but one was say a flaming alcoholic and or abusive to the other person in that way, i'm sure you guys would advocate them not to be together, atleast after realizing things weren't going to change (especially the women on here if it were the guy who was abusive due to their problems).
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<br />If you seriously take a step back, and realize just how many decent future mates are out there who you can have a wonderful, ultra loving relationship with...Why would anyone advocate two cystics be together, and cause nothing but problems for each other in a myriad of ways? I tend to take off the rose colored glasses and try to see things for what they are, even if it's not all that popular.</end quote>
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<br />I can see your point about the cross contamination factors but if they are BOTH WELL AWARE then let them be. They are adults and will do what they want no matter what. I se the abusive standpoint, and I don't disagree, I also don't agree. I stand in the middle I guess.
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<br />The alcoholic situation - I wouldn't say leave the relationship if the alcoholic was getting help. If they were destroying their spouses' life and even children and not getting help then yeah get out. Alcoholism is a disease that can be treated. Just like CF. If two CFers were dating and one was super compliant and the other one was a slacker and had B.Cep I would tell the compliant CFer to seriously consider it. And to ask themself if the love is TRULY worth their life. If they say yes then ok. If they say no, then they get out.
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<br />It also depends on your outlook about love. For some, it is a soul-mate deal. For others, love can come and go like the seasons. You obviously feel that you can fall in love with someone under the "right" circumstances. Don't take offense or take it in a wrong way. I am making an observation. I am NOT saying your outlook is wrong. I don't want that thought. For me, I believe in soul mates and the "one". I think that you can fall in love with people and settle for them and I think alot of people just settle and not search or wait for their "one". Thats my opinion...it's not right or wrong just how I feel about it. So for me, if I were to find that "one" person and he happened to have CF, then d*m right I would risk my life. I'm a sappy romantic what can I say <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 
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Sevenstars

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I guess I got something totally different out of the story.

I think it's fine for consenting adult CFers to make the choice - after all, they know what they are getting into.

This girl, however, seemed to want to do this not out of love, but because of the taboo. She seemed more preoccupied with the "naughtiness" of it than loving the man himself. And in the end, when he got cepacia, she ditched him. Well she had ditched him long before that, but that just cemented it for her. If I was really head over heels, soulmate-love for someone, cepacia would not keep me away.

"'Are you willing to risk your life for him?' a friend asked.

I wasn't."

Yeah, seems pretty selfish to me. She gave him a fling, and probably a few bugs too - and for what?

Edit: Did you guys not read the 2nd page?
 
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Sevenstars

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I guess I got something totally different out of the story.

I think it's fine for consenting adult CFers to make the choice - after all, they know what they are getting into.

This girl, however, seemed to want to do this not out of love, but because of the taboo. She seemed more preoccupied with the "naughtiness" of it than loving the man himself. And in the end, when he got cepacia, she ditched him. Well she had ditched him long before that, but that just cemented it for her. If I was really head over heels, soulmate-love for someone, cepacia would not keep me away.

"'Are you willing to risk your life for him?' a friend asked.

I wasn't."

Yeah, seems pretty selfish to me. She gave him a fling, and probably a few bugs too - and for what?

Edit: Did you guys not read the 2nd page?
 
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Sevenstars

New member
I guess I got something totally different out of the story.

I think it's fine for consenting adult CFers to make the choice - after all, they know what they are getting into.

This girl, however, seemed to want to do this not out of love, but because of the taboo. She seemed more preoccupied with the "naughtiness" of it than loving the man himself. And in the end, when he got cepacia, she ditched him. Well she had ditched him long before that, but that just cemented it for her. If I was really head over heels, soulmate-love for someone, cepacia would not keep me away.

"'Are you willing to risk your life for him?' a friend asked.

I wasn't."

Yeah, seems pretty selfish to me. She gave him a fling, and probably a few bugs too - and for what?

Edit: Did you guys not read the 2nd page?
 
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Sevenstars

New member
I guess I got something totally different out of the story.

I think it's fine for consenting adult CFers to make the choice - after all, they know what they are getting into.

This girl, however, seemed to want to do this not out of love, but because of the taboo. She seemed more preoccupied with the "naughtiness" of it than loving the man himself. And in the end, when he got cepacia, she ditched him. Well she had ditched him long before that, but that just cemented it for her. If I was really head over heels, soulmate-love for someone, cepacia would not keep me away.

"'Are you willing to risk your life for him?' a friend asked.

I wasn't."

Yeah, seems pretty selfish to me. She gave him a fling, and probably a few bugs too - and for what?

Edit: Did you guys not read the 2nd page?
 
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Sevenstars

New member
I guess I got something totally different out of the story.
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<br />I think it's fine for consenting adult CFers to make the choice - after all, they know what they are getting into.
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<br />This girl, however, seemed to want to do this not out of love, but because of the taboo. She seemed more preoccupied with the "naughtiness" of it than loving the man himself. And in the end, when he got cepacia, she ditched him. Well she had ditched him long before that, but that just cemented it for her. If I was really head over heels, soulmate-love for someone, cepacia would not keep me away.
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<br />"'Are you willing to risk your life for him?' a friend asked.
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<br />I wasn't."
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<br />Yeah, seems pretty selfish to me. She gave him a fling, and probably a few bugs too - and for what?
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<br />Edit: Did you guys not read the 2nd page?
 
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