Okay I Can't Stand This.

littledebbie · Jun 18, 2007

Ha Emily, I was talking about this very thing just yesterday with my Dad.

I totally agree *surprise*. And I think it's funny the way so many people divided living and dying. Like they are two seperate things. They are the same, they are one. And I don't mean just for CFers, I mean everyone here today in the world is living today and dying today.

And I hate hate hate when people are sooo encouraged to "fight", Fight? Well thats all well and good but we need to also keep our eye on the fact that we will die, no one can fight their way out of that. So to me it like we have been in a life long battle and when the last scrimmage is imminent and I can see this time I'm probably going to get my as$ kicked for good, I can at least take a look around and pick which field I chose to die on (my couch <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">) And in doing so I DID NOT GIVE UP!!!!! I mean the way some peoples philosophy seems to go-everyone who is dead at some point gave up.? Or maybe only if you die in a hospital gasping painfully for your last breath trying some last ditch effort did you fight til the end? What a load of crap.

What about fighting to the end to meet life on your terms? That's what I'm talking about!

*side note- I also totally agree with Emily that it's whatever the person who is dying wants thats important. This isn't some anti-treatment, anti-Tx or whatevr sentiment. To me this is just about respecting peoples choices who chose to acknowledge where they are when they are in their final stage and finding words for them other than "keep up the fight" or "don't get depressed" whatever other version, just because it makes the person saying it feel better it's actually rather insulting and of no help at all to the person you're saying it to. In My Overstated Opinion anyway <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

littledebbie · Jun 18, 2007

Ha Emily, I was talking about this very thing just yesterday with my Dad.

I totally agree *surprise*. And I think it's funny the way so many people divided living and dying. Like they are two seperate things. They are the same, they are one. And I don't mean just for CFers, I mean everyone here today in the world is living today and dying today.

And I hate hate hate when people are sooo encouraged to "fight", Fight? Well thats all well and good but we need to also keep our eye on the fact that we will die, no one can fight their way out of that. So to me it like we have been in a life long battle and when the last scrimmage is imminent and I can see this time I'm probably going to get my as$ kicked for good, I can at least take a look around and pick which field I chose to die on (my couch <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">) And in doing so I DID NOT GIVE UP!!!!! I mean the way some peoples philosophy seems to go-everyone who is dead at some point gave up.? Or maybe only if you die in a hospital gasping painfully for your last breath trying some last ditch effort did you fight til the end? What a load of crap.

What about fighting to the end to meet life on your terms? That's what I'm talking about!

*side note- I also totally agree with Emily that it's whatever the person who is dying wants thats important. This isn't some anti-treatment, anti-Tx or whatevr sentiment. To me this is just about respecting peoples choices who chose to acknowledge where they are when they are in their final stage and finding words for them other than "keep up the fight" or "don't get depressed" whatever other version, just because it makes the person saying it feel better it's actually rather insulting and of no help at all to the person you're saying it to. In My Overstated Opinion anyway <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

littledebbie · Jun 18, 2007

Ha Emily, I was talking about this very thing just yesterday with my Dad.

I totally agree *surprise*. And I think it's funny the way so many people divided living and dying. Like they are two seperate things. They are the same, they are one. And I don't mean just for CFers, I mean everyone here today in the world is living today and dying today.

And I hate hate hate when people are sooo encouraged to "fight", Fight? Well thats all well and good but we need to also keep our eye on the fact that we will die, no one can fight their way out of that. So to me it like we have been in a life long battle and when the last scrimmage is imminent and I can see this time I'm probably going to get my as$ kicked for good, I can at least take a look around and pick which field I chose to die on (my couch <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">) And in doing so I DID NOT GIVE UP!!!!! I mean the way some peoples philosophy seems to go-everyone who is dead at some point gave up.? Or maybe only if you die in a hospital gasping painfully for your last breath trying some last ditch effort did you fight til the end? What a load of crap.

What about fighting to the end to meet life on your terms? That's what I'm talking about!

*side note- I also totally agree with Emily that it's whatever the person who is dying wants thats important. This isn't some anti-treatment, anti-Tx or whatevr sentiment. To me this is just about respecting peoples choices who chose to acknowledge where they are when they are in their final stage and finding words for them other than "keep up the fight" or "don't get depressed" whatever other version, just because it makes the person saying it feel better it's actually rather insulting and of no help at all to the person you're saying it to. In My Overstated Opinion anyway <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

littledebbie · Jun 18, 2007

Ha Emily, I was talking about this very thing just yesterday with my Dad.

I totally agree *surprise*. And I think it's funny the way so many people divided living and dying. Like they are two seperate things. They are the same, they are one. And I don't mean just for CFers, I mean everyone here today in the world is living today and dying today.

And I hate hate hate when people are sooo encouraged to "fight", Fight? Well thats all well and good but we need to also keep our eye on the fact that we will die, no one can fight their way out of that. So to me it like we have been in a life long battle and when the last scrimmage is imminent and I can see this time I'm probably going to get my as$ kicked for good, I can at least take a look around and pick which field I chose to die on (my couch <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">) And in doing so I DID NOT GIVE UP!!!!! I mean the way some peoples philosophy seems to go-everyone who is dead at some point gave up.? Or maybe only if you die in a hospital gasping painfully for your last breath trying some last ditch effort did you fight til the end? What a load of crap.

What about fighting to the end to meet life on your terms? That's what I'm talking about!

*side note- I also totally agree with Emily that it's whatever the person who is dying wants thats important. This isn't some anti-treatment, anti-Tx or whatevr sentiment. To me this is just about respecting peoples choices who chose to acknowledge where they are when they are in their final stage and finding words for them other than "keep up the fight" or "don't get depressed" whatever other version, just because it makes the person saying it feel better it's actually rather insulting and of no help at all to the person you're saying it to. In My Overstated Opinion anyway <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

touchdown · Jun 18, 2007

Hi I am new here

Dying is just a process. Some believe in eternal life and I believe that is possible. We go on and live another life. I do not fear death and it is just a part of life just like being born.

I do agree if your time has come, go as peacefully as you can. If you need drugs to help you let go, go for it. The only thing in life that is so difficult is to know when the time has come. Some might say, I do not want to fight because they are looking for attention while others really mean it. There is also the drug factor. If someone is taking pain pills, they might be confused and lose hope. Having the will to live is one thing but to know that you need to go is another. When families are confused as to what to do when their child is fighting for their life on life support and as long as there is a fighting chance then it is worthwhile. The patient may not agree at the time but if they make it, they will be happy that they were given that extra chance.

What will be will be. The end result is the end result. Hopefully we all get what we want in the end.

touchdown · Jun 18, 2007

Hi I am new here

Dying is just a process. Some believe in eternal life and I believe that is possible. We go on and live another life. I do not fear death and it is just a part of life just like being born.

I do agree if your time has come, go as peacefully as you can. If you need drugs to help you let go, go for it. The only thing in life that is so difficult is to know when the time has come. Some might say, I do not want to fight because they are looking for attention while others really mean it. There is also the drug factor. If someone is taking pain pills, they might be confused and lose hope. Having the will to live is one thing but to know that you need to go is another. When families are confused as to what to do when their child is fighting for their life on life support and as long as there is a fighting chance then it is worthwhile. The patient may not agree at the time but if they make it, they will be happy that they were given that extra chance.

What will be will be. The end result is the end result. Hopefully we all get what we want in the end.

touchdown · Jun 18, 2007

Hi I am new here

Dying is just a process. Some believe in eternal life and I believe that is possible. We go on and live another life. I do not fear death and it is just a part of life just like being born.

I do agree if your time has come, go as peacefully as you can. If you need drugs to help you let go, go for it. The only thing in life that is so difficult is to know when the time has come. Some might say, I do not want to fight because they are looking for attention while others really mean it. There is also the drug factor. If someone is taking pain pills, they might be confused and lose hope. Having the will to live is one thing but to know that you need to go is another. When families are confused as to what to do when their child is fighting for their life on life support and as long as there is a fighting chance then it is worthwhile. The patient may not agree at the time but if they make it, they will be happy that they were given that extra chance.

What will be will be. The end result is the end result. Hopefully we all get what we want in the end.

touchdown · Jun 18, 2007

Hi I am new here

Dying is just a process. Some believe in eternal life and I believe that is possible. We go on and live another life. I do not fear death and it is just a part of life just like being born.

I do agree if your time has come, go as peacefully as you can. If you need drugs to help you let go, go for it. The only thing in life that is so difficult is to know when the time has come. Some might say, I do not want to fight because they are looking for attention while others really mean it. There is also the drug factor. If someone is taking pain pills, they might be confused and lose hope. Having the will to live is one thing but to know that you need to go is another. When families are confused as to what to do when their child is fighting for their life on life support and as long as there is a fighting chance then it is worthwhile. The patient may not agree at the time but if they make it, they will be happy that they were given that extra chance.

What will be will be. The end result is the end result. Hopefully we all get what we want in the end.

touchdown · Jun 18, 2007

Hi I am new here

Dying is just a process. Some believe in eternal life and I believe that is possible. We go on and live another life. I do not fear death and it is just a part of life just like being born.

I do agree if your time has come, go as peacefully as you can. If you need drugs to help you let go, go for it. The only thing in life that is so difficult is to know when the time has come. Some might say, I do not want to fight because they are looking for attention while others really mean it. There is also the drug factor. If someone is taking pain pills, they might be confused and lose hope. Having the will to live is one thing but to know that you need to go is another. When families are confused as to what to do when their child is fighting for their life on life support and as long as there is a fighting chance then it is worthwhile. The patient may not agree at the time but if they make it, they will be happy that they were given that extra chance.

What will be will be. The end result is the end result. Hopefully we all get what we want in the end.

touchdown · Jun 18, 2007

Hi I am new here

Dying is just a process. Some believe in eternal life and I believe that is possible. We go on and live another life. I do not fear death and it is just a part of life just like being born.

I do agree if your time has come, go as peacefully as you can. If you need drugs to help you let go, go for it. The only thing in life that is so difficult is to know when the time has come. Some might say, I do not want to fight because they are looking for attention while others really mean it. There is also the drug factor. If someone is taking pain pills, they might be confused and lose hope. Having the will to live is one thing but to know that you need to go is another. When families are confused as to what to do when their child is fighting for their life on life support and as long as there is a fighting chance then it is worthwhile. The patient may not agree at the time but if they make it, they will be happy that they were given that extra chance.

What will be will be. The end result is the end result. Hopefully we all get what we want in the end.

chrissyd · Jun 19, 2007

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>We. Are. ALL. going. to. die. </end quote></div>

What? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">

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chrissyd · Jun 19, 2007

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>We. Are. ALL. going. to. die. </end quote></div>

What? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">

<img src="i/expressions/rose.gif" border="0">

chrissyd · Jun 19, 2007

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>We. Are. ALL. going. to. die. </end quote></div>

What? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">

<img src="i/expressions/rose.gif" border="0">

chrissyd · Jun 19, 2007

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>We. Are. ALL. going. to. die. </end quote></div>

What? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">

<img src="i/expressions/rose.gif" border="0">

chrissyd · Jun 19, 2007

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>We. Are. ALL. going. to. die. </end quote>

What? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">

<img src="i/expressions/rose.gif" border="0">

chrissyd · Jun 19, 2007

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>We. Are. ALL. going. to. die. </end quote>

What? <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">

<img src="i/expressions/rose.gif" border="0">

Wheezie · Jun 19, 2007

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>littledebbie</b></i>

To me this is just about respecting peoples choices who chose to acknowledge where they are when they are in their final stage and finding words for them other than "keep up the fight" or "don't get depressed" whatever other version, just because it makes the person saying it feel better it's actually rather insulting and of no help at all to the person you're saying it to.</end quote></div>

I completely agree

Wheezie · Jun 19, 2007

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>littledebbie</b></i>

To me this is just about respecting peoples choices who chose to acknowledge where they are when they are in their final stage and finding words for them other than "keep up the fight" or "don't get depressed" whatever other version, just because it makes the person saying it feel better it's actually rather insulting and of no help at all to the person you're saying it to.</end quote></div>

I completely agree

Wheezie · Jun 19, 2007

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>littledebbie</b></i>

To me this is just about respecting peoples choices who chose to acknowledge where they are when they are in their final stage and finding words for them other than "keep up the fight" or "don't get depressed" whatever other version, just because it makes the person saying it feel better it's actually rather insulting and of no help at all to the person you're saying it to.</end quote></div>

I completely agree

Wheezie · Jun 19, 2007

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>littledebbie</b></i>

To me this is just about respecting peoples choices who chose to acknowledge where they are when they are in their final stage and finding words for them other than "keep up the fight" or "don't get depressed" whatever other version, just because it makes the person saying it feel better it's actually rather insulting and of no help at all to the person you're saying it to.</end quote></div>

I completely agree

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