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NoExcuses

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>kybert</b></i>
universal healthcare can work when done properly. just because australia and uk have done a crap job it doesnt mean it cant be done. </end quote></div>


I remember that quote before. Just because the USSR didn't do communism right doesn't mean it can't be done. <img src="i/expressions/devil.gif" border="0">

If the USSR just had a few more years to straighten things out, it could have worked....<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">



You hit the nail on the head, Kybert. It all works "in theory" but rarely does it pan out when it comes to the real world.

Who wouldn't want everyone to receive great healthcare without having to pay? It sounds so warm and fuzzy....

But a concept is one thing and then actually having things pan out is really a different issue all together.
 
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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>kybert</b></i>
universal healthcare can work when done properly. just because australia and uk have done a crap job it doesnt mean it cant be done. </end quote></div>


I remember that quote before. Just because the USSR didn't do communism right doesn't mean it can't be done. <img src="i/expressions/devil.gif" border="0">

If the USSR just had a few more years to straighten things out, it could have worked....<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">



You hit the nail on the head, Kybert. It all works "in theory" but rarely does it pan out when it comes to the real world.

Who wouldn't want everyone to receive great healthcare without having to pay? It sounds so warm and fuzzy....

But a concept is one thing and then actually having things pan out is really a different issue all together.
 
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NoExcuses

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>kybert</b></i>
universal healthcare can work when done properly. just because australia and uk have done a crap job it doesnt mean it cant be done. </end quote>


I remember that quote before. Just because the USSR didn't do communism right doesn't mean it can't be done. <img src="i/expressions/devil.gif" border="0">

If the USSR just had a few more years to straighten things out, it could have worked....<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">



You hit the nail on the head, Kybert. It all works "in theory" but rarely does it pan out when it comes to the real world.

Who wouldn't want everyone to receive great healthcare without having to pay? It sounds so warm and fuzzy....

But a concept is one thing and then actually having things pan out is really a different issue all together.
 
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NoExcuses

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>kybert</b></i>
universal healthcare can work when done properly. just because australia and uk have done a crap job it doesnt mean it cant be done. </end quote>


I remember that quote before. Just because the USSR didn't do communism right doesn't mean it can't be done. <img src="i/expressions/devil.gif" border="0">

If the USSR just had a few more years to straighten things out, it could have worked....<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">



You hit the nail on the head, Kybert. It all works "in theory" but rarely does it pan out when it comes to the real world.

Who wouldn't want everyone to receive great healthcare without having to pay? It sounds so warm and fuzzy....

But a concept is one thing and then actually having things pan out is really a different issue all together.
 
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mom2lillian

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one more thing is that I dont think too many in the US are willing to pay the higher taxes that come with 'free' socialized health care. It is in our nature to want want want but it is going to come from somewhere. If you have to pay 40% income taxes all the time to get the free healthcare do you still want it?
 
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mom2lillian

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one more thing is that I dont think too many in the US are willing to pay the higher taxes that come with 'free' socialized health care. It is in our nature to want want want but it is going to come from somewhere. If you have to pay 40% income taxes all the time to get the free healthcare do you still want it?
 
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mom2lillian

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one more thing is that I dont think too many in the US are willing to pay the higher taxes that come with 'free' socialized health care. It is in our nature to want want want but it is going to come from somewhere. If you have to pay 40% income taxes all the time to get the free healthcare do you still want it?
 
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mom2lillian

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one more thing is that I dont think too many in the US are willing to pay the higher taxes that come with 'free' socialized health care. It is in our nature to want want want but it is going to come from somewhere. If you have to pay 40% income taxes all the time to get the free healthcare do you still want it?
 
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mom2lillian

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one more thing is that I dont think too many in the US are willing to pay the higher taxes that come with 'free' socialized health care. It is in our nature to want want want but it is going to come from somewhere. If you have to pay 40% income taxes all the time to get the free healthcare do you still want it?
 
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mom2lillian

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one more thing is that I dont think too many in the US are willing to pay the higher taxes that come with 'free' socialized health care. It is in our nature to want want want but it is going to come from somewhere. If you have to pay 40% income taxes all the time to get the free healthcare do you still want it?
 
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Emeraldmirror

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I personally have no issues with the health care I receive in Canada. The few drugs I have to pay for I put in through my insurance through work. Those who don't get insurance at work can go on a government based drug insurance etc. which you pay depending on how much you make. Sick kids hospital in Toronto was beautiful and fun to stay at. St. Mikes is kind of run down and crappy looking. But I get what I need. I have never been without and rarely come across doctors who just brush me off. I think we have issues with our health care system, but I think there are benefits to it too. If I have to go into the hospital, I go into the hospital and I don't think about it. If I need to get a physical done I go to the doctor and get one done.. I don't think about it. I don't think that it has anything to do with the U.S being more rich and powerful than Canada, mostly because the U.S isn't as rich and powerful as Americans think it is. No matter how rich and powerful a country is universal health care is going to have faults. But this is what I'm used to, I've never had it any other way, I think if the U.S did change to universal health care the general population isn't going to like it because it is going to be drastically different than what you're used to.

Ashley 23 w/cf
 
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Emeraldmirror

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I personally have no issues with the health care I receive in Canada. The few drugs I have to pay for I put in through my insurance through work. Those who don't get insurance at work can go on a government based drug insurance etc. which you pay depending on how much you make. Sick kids hospital in Toronto was beautiful and fun to stay at. St. Mikes is kind of run down and crappy looking. But I get what I need. I have never been without and rarely come across doctors who just brush me off. I think we have issues with our health care system, but I think there are benefits to it too. If I have to go into the hospital, I go into the hospital and I don't think about it. If I need to get a physical done I go to the doctor and get one done.. I don't think about it. I don't think that it has anything to do with the U.S being more rich and powerful than Canada, mostly because the U.S isn't as rich and powerful as Americans think it is. No matter how rich and powerful a country is universal health care is going to have faults. But this is what I'm used to, I've never had it any other way, I think if the U.S did change to universal health care the general population isn't going to like it because it is going to be drastically different than what you're used to.

Ashley 23 w/cf
 
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Emeraldmirror

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I personally have no issues with the health care I receive in Canada. The few drugs I have to pay for I put in through my insurance through work. Those who don't get insurance at work can go on a government based drug insurance etc. which you pay depending on how much you make. Sick kids hospital in Toronto was beautiful and fun to stay at. St. Mikes is kind of run down and crappy looking. But I get what I need. I have never been without and rarely come across doctors who just brush me off. I think we have issues with our health care system, but I think there are benefits to it too. If I have to go into the hospital, I go into the hospital and I don't think about it. If I need to get a physical done I go to the doctor and get one done.. I don't think about it. I don't think that it has anything to do with the U.S being more rich and powerful than Canada, mostly because the U.S isn't as rich and powerful as Americans think it is. No matter how rich and powerful a country is universal health care is going to have faults. But this is what I'm used to, I've never had it any other way, I think if the U.S did change to universal health care the general population isn't going to like it because it is going to be drastically different than what you're used to.

Ashley 23 w/cf
 
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Emeraldmirror

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I personally have no issues with the health care I receive in Canada. The few drugs I have to pay for I put in through my insurance through work. Those who don't get insurance at work can go on a government based drug insurance etc. which you pay depending on how much you make. Sick kids hospital in Toronto was beautiful and fun to stay at. St. Mikes is kind of run down and crappy looking. But I get what I need. I have never been without and rarely come across doctors who just brush me off. I think we have issues with our health care system, but I think there are benefits to it too. If I have to go into the hospital, I go into the hospital and I don't think about it. If I need to get a physical done I go to the doctor and get one done.. I don't think about it. I don't think that it has anything to do with the U.S being more rich and powerful than Canada, mostly because the U.S isn't as rich and powerful as Americans think it is. No matter how rich and powerful a country is universal health care is going to have faults. But this is what I'm used to, I've never had it any other way, I think if the U.S did change to universal health care the general population isn't going to like it because it is going to be drastically different than what you're used to.

Ashley 23 w/cf
 
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Emeraldmirror

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I personally have no issues with the health care I receive in Canada. The few drugs I have to pay for I put in through my insurance through work. Those who don't get insurance at work can go on a government based drug insurance etc. which you pay depending on how much you make. Sick kids hospital in Toronto was beautiful and fun to stay at. St. Mikes is kind of run down and crappy looking. But I get what I need. I have never been without and rarely come across doctors who just brush me off. I think we have issues with our health care system, but I think there are benefits to it too. If I have to go into the hospital, I go into the hospital and I don't think about it. If I need to get a physical done I go to the doctor and get one done.. I don't think about it. I don't think that it has anything to do with the U.S being more rich and powerful than Canada, mostly because the U.S isn't as rich and powerful as Americans think it is. No matter how rich and powerful a country is universal health care is going to have faults. But this is what I'm used to, I've never had it any other way, I think if the U.S did change to universal health care the general population isn't going to like it because it is going to be drastically different than what you're used to.

Ashley 23 w/cf
 
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Emeraldmirror

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I personally have no issues with the health care I receive in Canada. The few drugs I have to pay for I put in through my insurance through work. Those who don't get insurance at work can go on a government based drug insurance etc. which you pay depending on how much you make. Sick kids hospital in Toronto was beautiful and fun to stay at. St. Mikes is kind of run down and crappy looking. But I get what I need. I have never been without and rarely come across doctors who just brush me off. I think we have issues with our health care system, but I think there are benefits to it too. If I have to go into the hospital, I go into the hospital and I don't think about it. If I need to get a physical done I go to the doctor and get one done.. I don't think about it. I don't think that it has anything to do with the U.S being more rich and powerful than Canada, mostly because the U.S isn't as rich and powerful as Americans think it is. No matter how rich and powerful a country is universal health care is going to have faults. But this is what I'm used to, I've never had it any other way, I think if the U.S did change to universal health care the general population isn't going to like it because it is going to be drastically different than what you're used to.

Ashley 23 w/cf
 
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Mockingbird

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It seems to me the problems we have with medicaid, medicare, etc. would only get worse with universal health care. If we cannot trust the government to be faithful with a few things, why would we trust the government to be faithful with many things?

I remember when I was living in Oregon, there were some people considering universal health care. It was ridiculous even to consider, however, because Oregon doesn't even have enough money to support its public schools, much less foot the doctor bills for everyone living there!

What Michael Moore is striving for is a perfect world, which is what socialism was designed to be when it was conceived. Unfortunately, reality has a tendency to get the way of idealism. As humans we are imperfect creatures, and as long as we are imperfect we are going to be incapable of creating a perfect society. To see evidence of this, we only have to look to any country that has ever embraced communism. It was a good idea, but it simply does not work.
 
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Mockingbird

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It seems to me the problems we have with medicaid, medicare, etc. would only get worse with universal health care. If we cannot trust the government to be faithful with a few things, why would we trust the government to be faithful with many things?

I remember when I was living in Oregon, there were some people considering universal health care. It was ridiculous even to consider, however, because Oregon doesn't even have enough money to support its public schools, much less foot the doctor bills for everyone living there!

What Michael Moore is striving for is a perfect world, which is what socialism was designed to be when it was conceived. Unfortunately, reality has a tendency to get the way of idealism. As humans we are imperfect creatures, and as long as we are imperfect we are going to be incapable of creating a perfect society. To see evidence of this, we only have to look to any country that has ever embraced communism. It was a good idea, but it simply does not work.
 
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Mockingbird

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It seems to me the problems we have with medicaid, medicare, etc. would only get worse with universal health care. If we cannot trust the government to be faithful with a few things, why would we trust the government to be faithful with many things?

I remember when I was living in Oregon, there were some people considering universal health care. It was ridiculous even to consider, however, because Oregon doesn't even have enough money to support its public schools, much less foot the doctor bills for everyone living there!

What Michael Moore is striving for is a perfect world, which is what socialism was designed to be when it was conceived. Unfortunately, reality has a tendency to get the way of idealism. As humans we are imperfect creatures, and as long as we are imperfect we are going to be incapable of creating a perfect society. To see evidence of this, we only have to look to any country that has ever embraced communism. It was a good idea, but it simply does not work.
 
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Mockingbird

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It seems to me the problems we have with medicaid, medicare, etc. would only get worse with universal health care. If we cannot trust the government to be faithful with a few things, why would we trust the government to be faithful with many things?

I remember when I was living in Oregon, there were some people considering universal health care. It was ridiculous even to consider, however, because Oregon doesn't even have enough money to support its public schools, much less foot the doctor bills for everyone living there!

What Michael Moore is striving for is a perfect world, which is what socialism was designed to be when it was conceived. Unfortunately, reality has a tendency to get the way of idealism. As humans we are imperfect creatures, and as long as we are imperfect we are going to be incapable of creating a perfect society. To see evidence of this, we only have to look to any country that has ever embraced communism. It was a good idea, but it simply does not work.
 
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