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dasjsmum

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Here in Australia there is the Medicare system, which is supported through income tax...medicare provides health care for free for anyone, however, if you need an elective surgery there are long waiting lists.

People have the option of private health insurance, which means they have access to elective surgeries etc. sooner, and are reimbursed (not the whole amount) for the cost of dental etc.

As far as cf goes, we have free clinics manned by specialist doctors, physios, social workers, dietitians etc. Nebuliser pumps for nebbed antis are provided free of charge, as are nebulisers.
If we want an eflow we would have to pay for it (around $1200 I think)...if in a private health fund would be reimbursed to some extent, the same would apply to the vest

All drugs are provided under government funding at a reduced price ($4.90 a script), but this only applies to children under 16 (parents are able to access a carer's allowance and card for cheaper drugs). After 16, people who earn over a certain amount must pay full price for scripts (around $20 each I think), so this can be a real drain on people's finances. The cf association here is trying to change this...at present, in order to qualify for the cheaper scripts people need to be classified as disabled and be entitled to a pension.

In general, health care here is fantastic, and from what I have heard about the US eg. turning dying people away from hospital because they dont have insurance (correct me if I'm wrong!), I would choose Australia any day!
 

dasjsmum

New member
"SIKO

Here in Australia there is the Medicare system, which is supported through income tax...medicare provides health care for free for anyone, however, if you need an elective surgery there are long waiting lists.

People have the option of private health insurance, which means they have access to elective surgeries etc. sooner, and are reimbursed (not the whole amount) for the cost of dental etc.

As far as cf goes, we have free clinics manned by specialist doctors, physios, social workers, dietitians etc. Nebuliser pumps for nebbed antis are provided free of charge, as are nebulisers.
If we want an eflow we would have to pay for it (around $1200 I think)...if in a private health fund would be reimbursed to some extent, the same would apply to the vest

All drugs are provided under government funding at a reduced price ($4.90 a script), but this only applies to children under 16 (parents are able to access a carer's allowance and card for cheaper drugs). After 16, people who earn over a certain amount must pay full price for scripts (around $20 each I think), so this can be a real drain on people's finances. The cf association here is trying to change this...at present, in order to qualify for the cheaper scripts people need to be classified as disabled and be entitled to a pension.

In general, health care here is fantastic, and from what I have heard about the US eg. turning dying people away from hospital because they dont have insurance (correct me if I'm wrong!), I would choose Australia any day!
 

dasjsmum

New member
"SIKO

Here in Australia there is the Medicare system, which is supported through income tax...medicare provides health care for free for anyone, however, if you need an elective surgery there are long waiting lists.

People have the option of private health insurance, which means they have access to elective surgeries etc. sooner, and are reimbursed (not the whole amount) for the cost of dental etc.

As far as cf goes, we have free clinics manned by specialist doctors, physios, social workers, dietitians etc. Nebuliser pumps for nebbed antis are provided free of charge, as are nebulisers.
If we want an eflow we would have to pay for it (around $1200 I think)...if in a private health fund would be reimbursed to some extent, the same would apply to the vest

All drugs are provided under government funding at a reduced price ($4.90 a script), but this only applies to children under 16 (parents are able to access a carer's allowance and card for cheaper drugs). After 16, people who earn over a certain amount must pay full price for scripts (around $20 each I think), so this can be a real drain on people's finances. The cf association here is trying to change this...at present, in order to qualify for the cheaper scripts people need to be classified as disabled and be entitled to a pension.

In general, health care here is fantastic, and from what I have heard about the US eg. turning dying people away from hospital because they dont have insurance (correct me if I'm wrong!), I would choose Australia any day!
 

dasjsmum

New member
"SIKO

Here in Australia there is the Medicare system, which is supported through income tax...medicare provides health care for free for anyone, however, if you need an elective surgery there are long waiting lists.

People have the option of private health insurance, which means they have access to elective surgeries etc. sooner, and are reimbursed (not the whole amount) for the cost of dental etc.

As far as cf goes, we have free clinics manned by specialist doctors, physios, social workers, dietitians etc. Nebuliser pumps for nebbed antis are provided free of charge, as are nebulisers.
If we want an eflow we would have to pay for it (around $1200 I think)...if in a private health fund would be reimbursed to some extent, the same would apply to the vest

All drugs are provided under government funding at a reduced price ($4.90 a script), but this only applies to children under 16 (parents are able to access a carer's allowance and card for cheaper drugs). After 16, people who earn over a certain amount must pay full price for scripts (around $20 each I think), so this can be a real drain on people's finances. The cf association here is trying to change this...at present, in order to qualify for the cheaper scripts people need to be classified as disabled and be entitled to a pension.

In general, health care here is fantastic, and from what I have heard about the US eg. turning dying people away from hospital because they dont have insurance (correct me if I'm wrong!), I would choose Australia any day!
 

dasjsmum

New member
"SIKO

Here in Australia there is the Medicare system, which is supported through income tax...medicare provides health care for free for anyone, however, if you need an elective surgery there are long waiting lists.

People have the option of private health insurance, which means they have access to elective surgeries etc. sooner, and are reimbursed (not the whole amount) for the cost of dental etc.

As far as cf goes, we have free clinics manned by specialist doctors, physios, social workers, dietitians etc. Nebuliser pumps for nebbed antis are provided free of charge, as are nebulisers.
If we want an eflow we would have to pay for it (around $1200 I think)...if in a private health fund would be reimbursed to some extent, the same would apply to the vest

All drugs are provided under government funding at a reduced price ($4.90 a script), but this only applies to children under 16 (parents are able to access a carer's allowance and card for cheaper drugs). After 16, people who earn over a certain amount must pay full price for scripts (around $20 each I think), so this can be a real drain on people's finances. The cf association here is trying to change this...at present, in order to qualify for the cheaper scripts people need to be classified as disabled and be entitled to a pension.

In general, health care here is fantastic, and from what I have heard about the US eg. turning dying people away from hospital because they dont have insurance (correct me if I'm wrong!), I would choose Australia any day!
 

dasjsmum

New member
"SIKO

Here in Australia there is the Medicare system, which is supported through income tax...medicare provides health care for free for anyone, however, if you need an elective surgery there are long waiting lists.

People have the option of private health insurance, which means they have access to elective surgeries etc. sooner, and are reimbursed (not the whole amount) for the cost of dental etc.

As far as cf goes, we have free clinics manned by specialist doctors, physios, social workers, dietitians etc. Nebuliser pumps for nebbed antis are provided free of charge, as are nebulisers.
If we want an eflow we would have to pay for it (around $1200 I think)...if in a private health fund would be reimbursed to some extent, the same would apply to the vest

All drugs are provided under government funding at a reduced price ($4.90 a script), but this only applies to children under 16 (parents are able to access a carer's allowance and card for cheaper drugs). After 16, people who earn over a certain amount must pay full price for scripts (around $20 each I think), so this can be a real drain on people's finances. The cf association here is trying to change this...at present, in order to qualify for the cheaper scripts people need to be classified as disabled and be entitled to a pension.

In general, health care here is fantastic, and from what I have heard about the US eg. turning dying people away from hospital because they dont have insurance (correct me if I'm wrong!), I would choose Australia any day!
 

mom2lillian

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Jo-any person who is sick can go to an ER and receive care there is a law regarding this. Also ? for you and everyone else with socialized care what % income tax do you pay and what is the cost of the private insurance. If you know what is considered an 'elective' surgery?

Thanks!

This is very interesting
 

mom2lillian

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Jo-any person who is sick can go to an ER and receive care there is a law regarding this. Also ? for you and everyone else with socialized care what % income tax do you pay and what is the cost of the private insurance. If you know what is considered an 'elective' surgery?

Thanks!

This is very interesting
 

mom2lillian

New member
"SIKO

Jo-any person who is sick can go to an ER and receive care there is a law regarding this. Also ? for you and everyone else with socialized care what % income tax do you pay and what is the cost of the private insurance. If you know what is considered an 'elective' surgery?

Thanks!

This is very interesting
 

mom2lillian

New member
"SIKO

Jo-any person who is sick can go to an ER and receive care there is a law regarding this. Also ? for you and everyone else with socialized care what % income tax do you pay and what is the cost of the private insurance. If you know what is considered an 'elective' surgery?

Thanks!

This is very interesting
 

mom2lillian

New member
"SIKO

Jo-any person who is sick can go to an ER and receive care there is a law regarding this. Also ? for you and everyone else with socialized care what % income tax do you pay and what is the cost of the private insurance. If you know what is considered an 'elective' surgery?

Thanks!

This is very interesting
 

mom2lillian

New member
"SIKO

Jo-any person who is sick can go to an ER and receive care there is a law regarding this. Also ? for you and everyone else with socialized care what % income tax do you pay and what is the cost of the private insurance. If you know what is considered an 'elective' surgery?

Thanks!

This is very interesting
 
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Shoshanna

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My husband and I saw "Sicko" a few days ago.

Some of Moore's findings are fascinating, yet some are simply ridiculous (i.e. commentary on Cuba being this generous country when it comes to healthcare even though there is NO freedom and there is TONS of poverty).

Moore is tantilized by socialized medicine and makes a point to share all of it's benefits as he states repeatedly, almost in shocking disbelief, that it is "free". Yet NOTHING is actually free. The $$ has to come from somewhere and yet he never details what people pay in taxes for this "free" health care.

I have nothing against Universal Healthcare, but if it were to work in America then we'd have to get rid of the Puritan work ethic because no one wants to work 80 hours a week and have their hard-earned $$ go to tourists/illegal aliens/alcoholics/homesless/drug abusers etc who get sick in the U.S. (and rack up a huge medical bill) and abuse the system. I don't mean to sound insensitive to those who really need it, but my husband does not need to get 1/2 the $$ taken out of his paycheck to support the medical needs of an alcoholic whose liver has failed.

But back to my point: No one really works 80 hours a week in Europe so they don't seem to mind giving up $$ from their paychecks (Moore asks people in France how many hours they work a week: answer was 35 hours with 5 paid weeks vacation.). Again, they're not Puritan by nature.

Universal Health care is great in theory, but America's ethics and values regarding work/lifestyle would have to change and I just don't see that happening (though I would like to for my 80 hour or rather 24/7 working husband!!!).
 
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Shoshanna

Guest
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My husband and I saw "Sicko" a few days ago.

Some of Moore's findings are fascinating, yet some are simply ridiculous (i.e. commentary on Cuba being this generous country when it comes to healthcare even though there is NO freedom and there is TONS of poverty).

Moore is tantilized by socialized medicine and makes a point to share all of it's benefits as he states repeatedly, almost in shocking disbelief, that it is "free". Yet NOTHING is actually free. The $$ has to come from somewhere and yet he never details what people pay in taxes for this "free" health care.

I have nothing against Universal Healthcare, but if it were to work in America then we'd have to get rid of the Puritan work ethic because no one wants to work 80 hours a week and have their hard-earned $$ go to tourists/illegal aliens/alcoholics/homesless/drug abusers etc who get sick in the U.S. (and rack up a huge medical bill) and abuse the system. I don't mean to sound insensitive to those who really need it, but my husband does not need to get 1/2 the $$ taken out of his paycheck to support the medical needs of an alcoholic whose liver has failed.

But back to my point: No one really works 80 hours a week in Europe so they don't seem to mind giving up $$ from their paychecks (Moore asks people in France how many hours they work a week: answer was 35 hours with 5 paid weeks vacation.). Again, they're not Puritan by nature.

Universal Health care is great in theory, but America's ethics and values regarding work/lifestyle would have to change and I just don't see that happening (though I would like to for my 80 hour or rather 24/7 working husband!!!).
 
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