Having children

[lightNlife]

Putting a whole different spin on things after reading this <div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Pete</b></i>

Choosing to have a child is not ALWAYS a decision made for the purpose of creating some sort of happiness in yourself...or filling a void of some sort...I believe that's what you're getting at.

Some do it for money.

Some do it by instinct.

Some do it even though it will make their lives a financial struggle.

Some do it for the pursuit of mending relationships.

Some do it out of loneliness...yadda yadda yadda

There is no simple one post definition of the reasons behind having children.

</end quote></div>

And some give a child life even if that child was conceived as the result of a violent crime. I know that's the minority, but people seem to forget that there are 3 "types" of pregnancy 1) planned 2) unplanned 3) crisis

Almost all of the responses to this thread are discussing the pros/cons/considerations of procreating. There's a huge difference between procreating, and parenting.

No matter how you feel on the subject of "having kids" you better be darn certain that you can parent them if you've got them or are going to be having them. It's highly irresponsible and immature for people to procreate if they are unwilling or unable (for ANY reason) to parent.

In a perfect world we wouldn't have child protective services. There wouldn't be illegitimate children or abandoned babies. There wouldn't be custody battles or foster homes. We wouldn't have dead-beat dads or absentee moms. We wouldn't have kids of divorced parents being nothing more than weekend guests in their parent's house. We wouldn't have children raising children thanks to teen pregnancy and irresponsibility.

And while I'm dreaming of a perfect world, there would be no CF and no reason to have this particular topic thread.

 

[lightNlife]

Putting a whole different spin on things after reading this <div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Pete</b></i>

Choosing to have a child is not ALWAYS a decision made for the purpose of creating some sort of happiness in yourself...or filling a void of some sort...I believe that's what you're getting at.

Some do it for money.

Some do it by instinct.

Some do it even though it will make their lives a financial struggle.

Some do it for the pursuit of mending relationships.

Some do it out of loneliness...yadda yadda yadda

There is no simple one post definition of the reasons behind having children.

</end quote></div>

And some give a child life even if that child was conceived as the result of a violent crime. I know that's the minority, but people seem to forget that there are 3 "types" of pregnancy 1) planned 2) unplanned 3) crisis

Almost all of the responses to this thread are discussing the pros/cons/considerations of procreating. There's a huge difference between procreating, and parenting.

No matter how you feel on the subject of "having kids" you better be darn certain that you can parent them if you've got them or are going to be having them. It's highly irresponsible and immature for people to procreate if they are unwilling or unable (for ANY reason) to parent.

In a perfect world we wouldn't have child protective services. There wouldn't be illegitimate children or abandoned babies. There wouldn't be custody battles or foster homes. We wouldn't have dead-beat dads or absentee moms. We wouldn't have kids of divorced parents being nothing more than weekend guests in their parent's house. We wouldn't have children raising children thanks to teen pregnancy and irresponsibility.

And while I'm dreaming of a perfect world, there would be no CF and no reason to have this particular topic thread.

 

[lightNlife]

Putting a whole different spin on things after reading this <div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Pete</b></i>

Choosing to have a child is not ALWAYS a decision made for the purpose of creating some sort of happiness in yourself...or filling a void of some sort...I believe that's what you're getting at.

Some do it for money.

Some do it by instinct.

Some do it even though it will make their lives a financial struggle.

Some do it for the pursuit of mending relationships.

Some do it out of loneliness...yadda yadda yadda

There is no simple one post definition of the reasons behind having children.

</end quote>

And some give a child life even if that child was conceived as the result of a violent crime. I know that's the minority, but people seem to forget that there are 3 "types" of pregnancy 1) planned 2) unplanned 3) crisis

Almost all of the responses to this thread are discussing the pros/cons/considerations of procreating. There's a huge difference between procreating, and parenting.

No matter how you feel on the subject of "having kids" you better be darn certain that you can parent them if you've got them or are going to be having them. It's highly irresponsible and immature for people to procreate if they are unwilling or unable (for ANY reason) to parent.

In a perfect world we wouldn't have child protective services. There wouldn't be illegitimate children or abandoned babies. There wouldn't be custody battles or foster homes. We wouldn't have dead-beat dads or absentee moms. We wouldn't have kids of divorced parents being nothing more than weekend guests in their parent's house. We wouldn't have children raising children thanks to teen pregnancy and irresponsibility.

And while I'm dreaming of a perfect world, there would be no CF and no reason to have this particular topic thread.

 

[lightNlife]

Putting a whole different spin on things after reading this <div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Pete</b></i>

Choosing to have a child is not ALWAYS a decision made for the purpose of creating some sort of happiness in yourself...or filling a void of some sort...I believe that's what you're getting at.

Some do it for money.

Some do it by instinct.

Some do it even though it will make their lives a financial struggle.

Some do it for the pursuit of mending relationships.

Some do it out of loneliness...yadda yadda yadda

There is no simple one post definition of the reasons behind having children.

</end quote>

And some give a child life even if that child was conceived as the result of a violent crime. I know that's the minority, but people seem to forget that there are 3 "types" of pregnancy 1) planned 2) unplanned 3) crisis

Almost all of the responses to this thread are discussing the pros/cons/considerations of procreating. There's a huge difference between procreating, and parenting.

No matter how you feel on the subject of "having kids" you better be darn certain that you can parent them if you've got them or are going to be having them. It's highly irresponsible and immature for people to procreate if they are unwilling or unable (for ANY reason) to parent.

In a perfect world we wouldn't have child protective services. There wouldn't be illegitimate children or abandoned babies. There wouldn't be custody battles or foster homes. We wouldn't have dead-beat dads or absentee moms. We wouldn't have kids of divorced parents being nothing more than weekend guests in their parent's house. We wouldn't have children raising children thanks to teen pregnancy and irresponsibility.

And while I'm dreaming of a perfect world, there would be no CF and no reason to have this particular topic thread.

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>65rosessamurai</b></i>


I agree with Petes comment, but as for sakasuka and Amysmom, (I'm guessing you are referring to all CF'rs) all I can add to that is if they never have any children, then who's to care for the spouse who has become a widow/widower?

</end quote></div>

To have children to care for you when you're older is <b> selfish </b>. I'm glad you can only think about yourself.

There are plently of resources for when you get old, Fred. A child's job should not be to care for you when you're older.



<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> IF, you say "CF'rs shouldn't have children", then why stop there?? Why not just say "CF'rs shouldn't get married", or "CF'rs shouldn't find love", </end quote></div>


Fred you don't see the difference subjectiving a baby, toddler and child to being without a parent when they die - and prior to that playing second fiddle to a time-consuming disease?

The spouse has a choice, is an adult, and can make decisions for his/herself.

A child cannot.

I can't believe even you can't see the difference.... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">


<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> Each to thier own opinion, but when telling someone else how they should pursue their happiness, isn't that infringing their freedom? </end quote></div>


Fred, they're words.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Though, like what Julie said, would pertain to anyone having children, whether the parents have CF or not, it's selfish to have children. </end quote></div>

Not if you know you have a life-threatening illness ahead of time. There is a difference.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> But, if no one has children, for one thing, the population will certainly drop fast...and in the meantime, they will just find other selfish acts to indulge in. </end quote></div>

The populatio won't drop. There are only 30,000 of us in the US.... only 1/2 are adults.

And another selfish act to indulge in... fine. As long as it doesn't affect innocent children I'm all for it.

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>65rosessamurai</b></i>


I agree with Petes comment, but as for sakasuka and Amysmom, (I'm guessing you are referring to all CF'rs) all I can add to that is if they never have any children, then who's to care for the spouse who has become a widow/widower?

</end quote></div>

To have children to care for you when you're older is <b> selfish </b>. I'm glad you can only think about yourself.

There are plently of resources for when you get old, Fred. A child's job should not be to care for you when you're older.



<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> IF, you say "CF'rs shouldn't have children", then why stop there?? Why not just say "CF'rs shouldn't get married", or "CF'rs shouldn't find love", </end quote></div>


Fred you don't see the difference subjectiving a baby, toddler and child to being without a parent when they die - and prior to that playing second fiddle to a time-consuming disease?

The spouse has a choice, is an adult, and can make decisions for his/herself.

A child cannot.

I can't believe even you can't see the difference.... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">


<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> Each to thier own opinion, but when telling someone else how they should pursue their happiness, isn't that infringing their freedom? </end quote></div>


Fred, they're words.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Though, like what Julie said, would pertain to anyone having children, whether the parents have CF or not, it's selfish to have children. </end quote></div>

Not if you know you have a life-threatening illness ahead of time. There is a difference.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> But, if no one has children, for one thing, the population will certainly drop fast...and in the meantime, they will just find other selfish acts to indulge in. </end quote></div>

The populatio won't drop. There are only 30,000 of us in the US.... only 1/2 are adults.

And another selfish act to indulge in... fine. As long as it doesn't affect innocent children I'm all for it.

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>65rosessamurai</b></i>


I agree with Petes comment, but as for sakasuka and Amysmom, (I'm guessing you are referring to all CF'rs) all I can add to that is if they never have any children, then who's to care for the spouse who has become a widow/widower?

</end quote></div>

To have children to care for you when you're older is <b> selfish </b>. I'm glad you can only think about yourself.

There are plently of resources for when you get old, Fred. A child's job should not be to care for you when you're older.



<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> IF, you say "CF'rs shouldn't have children", then why stop there?? Why not just say "CF'rs shouldn't get married", or "CF'rs shouldn't find love", </end quote></div>


Fred you don't see the difference subjectiving a baby, toddler and child to being without a parent when they die - and prior to that playing second fiddle to a time-consuming disease?

The spouse has a choice, is an adult, and can make decisions for his/herself.

A child cannot.

I can't believe even you can't see the difference.... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">


<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> Each to thier own opinion, but when telling someone else how they should pursue their happiness, isn't that infringing their freedom? </end quote></div>


Fred, they're words.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Though, like what Julie said, would pertain to anyone having children, whether the parents have CF or not, it's selfish to have children. </end quote></div>

Not if you know you have a life-threatening illness ahead of time. There is a difference.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> But, if no one has children, for one thing, the population will certainly drop fast...and in the meantime, they will just find other selfish acts to indulge in. </end quote></div>

The populatio won't drop. There are only 30,000 of us in the US.... only 1/2 are adults.

And another selfish act to indulge in... fine. As long as it doesn't affect innocent children I'm all for it.

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>65rosessamurai</b></i>


I agree with Petes comment, but as for sakasuka and Amysmom, (I'm guessing you are referring to all CF'rs) all I can add to that is if they never have any children, then who's to care for the spouse who has become a widow/widower?

</end quote></div>

To have children to care for you when you're older is <b> selfish </b>. I'm glad you can only think about yourself.

There are plently of resources for when you get old, Fred. A child's job should not be to care for you when you're older.



<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> IF, you say "CF'rs shouldn't have children", then why stop there?? Why not just say "CF'rs shouldn't get married", or "CF'rs shouldn't find love", </end quote></div>


Fred you don't see the difference subjectiving a baby, toddler and child to being without a parent when they die - and prior to that playing second fiddle to a time-consuming disease?

The spouse has a choice, is an adult, and can make decisions for his/herself.

A child cannot.

I can't believe even you can't see the difference.... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">


<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> Each to thier own opinion, but when telling someone else how they should pursue their happiness, isn't that infringing their freedom? </end quote></div>


Fred, they're words.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Though, like what Julie said, would pertain to anyone having children, whether the parents have CF or not, it's selfish to have children. </end quote></div>

Not if you know you have a life-threatening illness ahead of time. There is a difference.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> But, if no one has children, for one thing, the population will certainly drop fast...and in the meantime, they will just find other selfish acts to indulge in. </end quote></div>

The populatio won't drop. There are only 30,000 of us in the US.... only 1/2 are adults.

And another selfish act to indulge in... fine. As long as it doesn't affect innocent children I'm all for it.

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>65rosessamurai</b></i>


I agree with Petes comment, but as for sakasuka and Amysmom, (I'm guessing you are referring to all CF'rs) all I can add to that is if they never have any children, then who's to care for the spouse who has become a widow/widower?

</end quote>

To have children to care for you when you're older is <b> selfish </b>. I'm glad you can only think about yourself.

There are plently of resources for when you get old, Fred. A child's job should not be to care for you when you're older.



<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> IF, you say "CF'rs shouldn't have children", then why stop there?? Why not just say "CF'rs shouldn't get married", or "CF'rs shouldn't find love", </end quote>


Fred you don't see the difference subjectiving a baby, toddler and child to being without a parent when they die - and prior to that playing second fiddle to a time-consuming disease?

The spouse has a choice, is an adult, and can make decisions for his/herself.

A child cannot.

I can't believe even you can't see the difference.... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">


<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> Each to thier own opinion, but when telling someone else how they should pursue their happiness, isn't that infringing their freedom? </end quote>


Fred, they're words.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Though, like what Julie said, would pertain to anyone having children, whether the parents have CF or not, it's selfish to have children. </end quote>

Not if you know you have a life-threatening illness ahead of time. There is a difference.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> But, if no one has children, for one thing, the population will certainly drop fast...and in the meantime, they will just find other selfish acts to indulge in. </end quote>

The populatio won't drop. There are only 30,000 of us in the US.... only 1/2 are adults.

And another selfish act to indulge in... fine. As long as it doesn't affect innocent children I'm all for it.

 

[NoExcuses]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>65rosessamurai</b></i>


I agree with Petes comment, but as for sakasuka and Amysmom, (I'm guessing you are referring to all CF'rs) all I can add to that is if they never have any children, then who's to care for the spouse who has become a widow/widower?

</end quote>

To have children to care for you when you're older is <b> selfish </b>. I'm glad you can only think about yourself.

There are plently of resources for when you get old, Fred. A child's job should not be to care for you when you're older.



<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> IF, you say "CF'rs shouldn't have children", then why stop there?? Why not just say "CF'rs shouldn't get married", or "CF'rs shouldn't find love", </end quote>


Fred you don't see the difference subjectiving a baby, toddler and child to being without a parent when they die - and prior to that playing second fiddle to a time-consuming disease?

The spouse has a choice, is an adult, and can make decisions for his/herself.

A child cannot.

I can't believe even you can't see the difference.... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif" border="0">


<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> Each to thier own opinion, but when telling someone else how they should pursue their happiness, isn't that infringing their freedom? </end quote>


Fred, they're words.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Though, like what Julie said, would pertain to anyone having children, whether the parents have CF or not, it's selfish to have children. </end quote>

Not if you know you have a life-threatening illness ahead of time. There is a difference.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote> But, if no one has children, for one thing, the population will certainly drop fast...and in the meantime, they will just find other selfish acts to indulge in. </end quote>

The populatio won't drop. There are only 30,000 of us in the US.... only 1/2 are adults.

And another selfish act to indulge in... fine. As long as it doesn't affect innocent children I'm all for it.

 

[LouLou]

Here's an a view that will probably be unpopular but what the heck it's popped into my mind lately so I thought I'd share. I'll state that this is about America today, not necessarily the world.

We cater to our children beyond what any previous generation has ever done before. Giving them expections to the rules, siding with them and not their teachers, allowing for their inadequacies, gearing fun in life towards their immaturity and so many examples. Never have there been the discipline problems that there are today in such a young group. Sure we've got medical diagnosis for it today and some do respond well to the treatment. Yes, some of this is good but there's been a breakdown that most Americans are quite aware of. Children don't care about the elder generation like they used to in fact they don't respect them for what they have gone through. Children today are more material than ever. Not just asking for this or that but by brandname and if they don't get that brand they sulk. Children don't inherently develop on their own account in most cases to this aweful state.

It is the parents and the societies fault. One such example is that children's neurological development happens during sleep. We are keeping children up at night and during the day for that matter to fit into our schedules (home life and daycare). Many households have both parents working and keep the child up to see whoever has to work late. This is just one such example of the degradation of our children.

Okay now here's my point...

By being a family with a chronic illness living quite successfully (happy marriage, good morals, finanically independent, etc.) I feel my husband and I are better equipped to parent than if we had been well parents. The illness has made us much more aware of our actions and results. Most people I know that are having children aren't thinking a lot about it just thinking it's a good "next step" in life. And they definitely aren't thinking about how they are going to teach their child to be an upstanding individual.

Cf has prepared me to be the best parent I think my soul ever would have become. I would fathom to say that as an adult my child will have a similar response to my husband about my cf. "She wouldn't have been the mom she was without her cf." My husband has told me multiple times that he feels cf has formed me very much into the person he fell in love with. Even though never in my life have I been submissive to my cf. It has formed such characteristics of dedication, obedience, discipline, being loving, and caring of others and thoughtful.

 

[LouLou]

Here's an a view that will probably be unpopular but what the heck it's popped into my mind lately so I thought I'd share. I'll state that this is about America today, not necessarily the world.

We cater to our children beyond what any previous generation has ever done before. Giving them expections to the rules, siding with them and not their teachers, allowing for their inadequacies, gearing fun in life towards their immaturity and so many examples. Never have there been the discipline problems that there are today in such a young group. Sure we've got medical diagnosis for it today and some do respond well to the treatment. Yes, some of this is good but there's been a breakdown that most Americans are quite aware of. Children don't care about the elder generation like they used to in fact they don't respect them for what they have gone through. Children today are more material than ever. Not just asking for this or that but by brandname and if they don't get that brand they sulk. Children don't inherently develop on their own account in most cases to this aweful state.

It is the parents and the societies fault. One such example is that children's neurological development happens during sleep. We are keeping children up at night and during the day for that matter to fit into our schedules (home life and daycare). Many households have both parents working and keep the child up to see whoever has to work late. This is just one such example of the degradation of our children.

Okay now here's my point...

By being a family with a chronic illness living quite successfully (happy marriage, good morals, finanically independent, etc.) I feel my husband and I are better equipped to parent than if we had been well parents. The illness has made us much more aware of our actions and results. Most people I know that are having children aren't thinking a lot about it just thinking it's a good "next step" in life. And they definitely aren't thinking about how they are going to teach their child to be an upstanding individual.

Cf has prepared me to be the best parent I think my soul ever would have become. I would fathom to say that as an adult my child will have a similar response to my husband about my cf. "She wouldn't have been the mom she was without her cf." My husband has told me multiple times that he feels cf has formed me very much into the person he fell in love with. Even though never in my life have I been submissive to my cf. It has formed such characteristics of dedication, obedience, discipline, being loving, and caring of others and thoughtful.

 

[LouLou]

Here's an a view that will probably be unpopular but what the heck it's popped into my mind lately so I thought I'd share. I'll state that this is about America today, not necessarily the world.

We cater to our children beyond what any previous generation has ever done before. Giving them expections to the rules, siding with them and not their teachers, allowing for their inadequacies, gearing fun in life towards their immaturity and so many examples. Never have there been the discipline problems that there are today in such a young group. Sure we've got medical diagnosis for it today and some do respond well to the treatment. Yes, some of this is good but there's been a breakdown that most Americans are quite aware of. Children don't care about the elder generation like they used to in fact they don't respect them for what they have gone through. Children today are more material than ever. Not just asking for this or that but by brandname and if they don't get that brand they sulk. Children don't inherently develop on their own account in most cases to this aweful state.

It is the parents and the societies fault. One such example is that children's neurological development happens during sleep. We are keeping children up at night and during the day for that matter to fit into our schedules (home life and daycare). Many households have both parents working and keep the child up to see whoever has to work late. This is just one such example of the degradation of our children.

Okay now here's my point...

By being a family with a chronic illness living quite successfully (happy marriage, good morals, finanically independent, etc.) I feel my husband and I are better equipped to parent than if we had been well parents. The illness has made us much more aware of our actions and results. Most people I know that are having children aren't thinking a lot about it just thinking it's a good "next step" in life. And they definitely aren't thinking about how they are going to teach their child to be an upstanding individual.

Cf has prepared me to be the best parent I think my soul ever would have become. I would fathom to say that as an adult my child will have a similar response to my husband about my cf. "She wouldn't have been the mom she was without her cf." My husband has told me multiple times that he feels cf has formed me very much into the person he fell in love with. Even though never in my life have I been submissive to my cf. It has formed such characteristics of dedication, obedience, discipline, being loving, and caring of others and thoughtful.

 

[LouLou]

Here's an a view that will probably be unpopular but what the heck it's popped into my mind lately so I thought I'd share. I'll state that this is about America today, not necessarily the world.

We cater to our children beyond what any previous generation has ever done before. Giving them expections to the rules, siding with them and not their teachers, allowing for their inadequacies, gearing fun in life towards their immaturity and so many examples. Never have there been the discipline problems that there are today in such a young group. Sure we've got medical diagnosis for it today and some do respond well to the treatment. Yes, some of this is good but there's been a breakdown that most Americans are quite aware of. Children don't care about the elder generation like they used to in fact they don't respect them for what they have gone through. Children today are more material than ever. Not just asking for this or that but by brandname and if they don't get that brand they sulk. Children don't inherently develop on their own account in most cases to this aweful state.

It is the parents and the societies fault. One such example is that children's neurological development happens during sleep. We are keeping children up at night and during the day for that matter to fit into our schedules (home life and daycare). Many households have both parents working and keep the child up to see whoever has to work late. This is just one such example of the degradation of our children.

Okay now here's my point...

By being a family with a chronic illness living quite successfully (happy marriage, good morals, finanically independent, etc.) I feel my husband and I are better equipped to parent than if we had been well parents. The illness has made us much more aware of our actions and results. Most people I know that are having children aren't thinking a lot about it just thinking it's a good "next step" in life. And they definitely aren't thinking about how they are going to teach their child to be an upstanding individual.

Cf has prepared me to be the best parent I think my soul ever would have become. I would fathom to say that as an adult my child will have a similar response to my husband about my cf. "She wouldn't have been the mom she was without her cf." My husband has told me multiple times that he feels cf has formed me very much into the person he fell in love with. Even though never in my life have I been submissive to my cf. It has formed such characteristics of dedication, obedience, discipline, being loving, and caring of others and thoughtful.

 

[LouLou]

Here's an a view that will probably be unpopular but what the heck it's popped into my mind lately so I thought I'd share. I'll state that this is about America today, not necessarily the world.

We cater to our children beyond what any previous generation has ever done before. Giving them expections to the rules, siding with them and not their teachers, allowing for their inadequacies, gearing fun in life towards their immaturity and so many examples. Never have there been the discipline problems that there are today in such a young group. Sure we've got medical diagnosis for it today and some do respond well to the treatment. Yes, some of this is good but there's been a breakdown that most Americans are quite aware of. Children don't care about the elder generation like they used to in fact they don't respect them for what they have gone through. Children today are more material than ever. Not just asking for this or that but by brandname and if they don't get that brand they sulk. Children don't inherently develop on their own account in most cases to this aweful state.

It is the parents and the societies fault. One such example is that children's neurological development happens during sleep. We are keeping children up at night and during the day for that matter to fit into our schedules (home life and daycare). Many households have both parents working and keep the child up to see whoever has to work late. This is just one such example of the degradation of our children.

Okay now here's my point...

By being a family with a chronic illness living quite successfully (happy marriage, good morals, finanically independent, etc.) I feel my husband and I are better equipped to parent than if we had been well parents. The illness has made us much more aware of our actions and results. Most people I know that are having children aren't thinking a lot about it just thinking it's a good "next step" in life. And they definitely aren't thinking about how they are going to teach their child to be an upstanding individual.

Cf has prepared me to be the best parent I think my soul ever would have become. I would fathom to say that as an adult my child will have a similar response to my husband about my cf. "She wouldn't have been the mom she was without her cf." My husband has told me multiple times that he feels cf has formed me very much into the person he fell in love with. Even though never in my life have I been submissive to my cf. It has formed such characteristics of dedication, obedience, discipline, being loving, and caring of others and thoughtful.

 

[LouLou]

Here's an a view that will probably be unpopular but what the heck it's popped into my mind lately so I thought I'd share. I'll state that this is about America today, not necessarily the world.

We cater to our children beyond what any previous generation has ever done before. Giving them expections to the rules, siding with them and not their teachers, allowing for their inadequacies, gearing fun in life towards their immaturity and so many examples. Never have there been the discipline problems that there are today in such a young group. Sure we've got medical diagnosis for it today and some do respond well to the treatment. Yes, some of this is good but there's been a breakdown that most Americans are quite aware of. Children don't care about the elder generation like they used to in fact they don't respect them for what they have gone through. Children today are more material than ever. Not just asking for this or that but by brandname and if they don't get that brand they sulk. Children don't inherently develop on their own account in most cases to this aweful state.

It is the parents and the societies fault. One such example is that children's neurological development happens during sleep. We are keeping children up at night and during the day for that matter to fit into our schedules (home life and daycare). Many households have both parents working and keep the child up to see whoever has to work late. This is just one such example of the degradation of our children.

Okay now here's my point...

By being a family with a chronic illness living quite successfully (happy marriage, good morals, finanically independent, etc.) I feel my husband and I are better equipped to parent than if we had been well parents. The illness has made us much more aware of our actions and results. Most people I know that are having children aren't thinking a lot about it just thinking it's a good "next step" in life. And they definitely aren't thinking about how they are going to teach their child to be an upstanding individual.

Cf has prepared me to be the best parent I think my soul ever would have become. I would fathom to say that as an adult my child will have a similar response to my husband about my cf. "She wouldn't have been the mom she was without her cf." My husband has told me multiple times that he feels cf has formed me very much into the person he fell in love with. Even though never in my life have I been submissive to my cf. It has formed such characteristics of dedication, obedience, discipline, being loving, and caring of others and thoughtful.

 

[CFHockeyMom]

A couple of quick comments...

My argument in general is that the choosing to give birth to a child in and of itself is selfish. This is regardless of CF. I'm not arguing that it's good or bad just stating that it's a selfish act. After all, I do have two children. Admittedly they were both "accidents", if you believe in such things. I'm not passing judgement nor am I targetting any previous posts/posters.

Lauren, I couldn't agree with you more about the nature of parents today, the sleep issue, and the fact that people merely treat children as the next step in a relationship.

 

[CFHockeyMom]

A couple of quick comments...

My argument in general is that the choosing to give birth to a child in and of itself is selfish. This is regardless of CF. I'm not arguing that it's good or bad just stating that it's a selfish act. After all, I do have two children. Admittedly they were both "accidents", if you believe in such things. I'm not passing judgement nor am I targetting any previous posts/posters.

Lauren, I couldn't agree with you more about the nature of parents today, the sleep issue, and the fact that people merely treat children as the next step in a relationship.

 

[CFHockeyMom]

A couple of quick comments...

My argument in general is that the choosing to give birth to a child in and of itself is selfish. This is regardless of CF. I'm not arguing that it's good or bad just stating that it's a selfish act. After all, I do have two children. Admittedly they were both "accidents", if you believe in such things. I'm not passing judgement nor am I targetting any previous posts/posters.

Lauren, I couldn't agree with you more about the nature of parents today, the sleep issue, and the fact that people merely treat children as the next step in a relationship.

 

[CFHockeyMom]

A couple of quick comments...

My argument in general is that the choosing to give birth to a child in and of itself is selfish. This is regardless of CF. I'm not arguing that it's good or bad just stating that it's a selfish act. After all, I do have two children. Admittedly they were both "accidents", if you believe in such things. I'm not passing judgement nor am I targetting any previous posts/posters.

Lauren, I couldn't agree with you more about the nature of parents today, the sleep issue, and the fact that people merely treat children as the next step in a relationship.