Teacher 'outed' my daughter!

NoExcuses

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>ReneeP</b></i>

Man, you are tough. I sure hope I never have to ask you for advice when my girls are sick because you'd probably push me right to suicide. I'd have to blame myself for everything that is wrong.



I don't understand you at all, Amy. You can be so insensitive. No, I take that back. You ARE so insensitive. You are like a doctor with no bedside manner. You have so much knowledge but no tact with which to present it.</end quote></div>


It's easy to attack the person when you don't like what's being said. It's a solid way to detract from the facts....

And the difference between me and a doc is you don't have to listen to me. Doc's don't have a block feature. This site does.

If you don't like it, Renee, then block me.
 

NoExcuses

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>ReneeP</b></i>

Man, you are tough. I sure hope I never have to ask you for advice when my girls are sick because you'd probably push me right to suicide. I'd have to blame myself for everything that is wrong.



I don't understand you at all, Amy. You can be so insensitive. No, I take that back. You ARE so insensitive. You are like a doctor with no bedside manner. You have so much knowledge but no tact with which to present it.</end quote></div>


It's easy to attack the person when you don't like what's being said. It's a solid way to detract from the facts....

And the difference between me and a doc is you don't have to listen to me. Doc's don't have a block feature. This site does.

If you don't like it, Renee, then block me.
 

ReneeP

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Actually, Amy, that's the smartest thing you've said all night. I have never used the feature and really forgot it was there. Thanks for the reminder. Consider it done.

Oh, and in response to your previous post, I have never and will never give advice on what it's like to have CF. Never.
 

ReneeP

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Actually, Amy, that's the smartest thing you've said all night. I have never used the feature and really forgot it was there. Thanks for the reminder. Consider it done.

Oh, and in response to your previous post, I have never and will never give advice on what it's like to have CF. Never.
 

ReneeP

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Actually, Amy, that's the smartest thing you've said all night. I have never used the feature and really forgot it was there. Thanks for the reminder. Consider it done.

Oh, and in response to your previous post, I have never and will never give advice on what it's like to have CF. Never.
 

kybert

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everyone knew i had cf in primary school and everyone knew when i was in hospital. nothing bad came from it. i dont see why people knowing would be embarassing. i think its kind of sweet that she informed the class and the boy actually cared enough to research it. the problem here is why your daughter is so embarassed about it. instead of talking to the school about a non issue you should be talking to your daughter about why she feels this way. i dont see any problem with what the teacher did.
 

kybert

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everyone knew i had cf in primary school and everyone knew when i was in hospital. nothing bad came from it. i dont see why people knowing would be embarassing. i think its kind of sweet that she informed the class and the boy actually cared enough to research it. the problem here is why your daughter is so embarassed about it. instead of talking to the school about a non issue you should be talking to your daughter about why she feels this way. i dont see any problem with what the teacher did.
 

kybert

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everyone knew i had cf in primary school and everyone knew when i was in hospital. nothing bad came from it. i dont see why people knowing would be embarassing. i think its kind of sweet that she informed the class and the boy actually cared enough to research it. the problem here is why your daughter is so embarassed about it. instead of talking to the school about a non issue you should be talking to your daughter about why she feels this way. i dont see any problem with what the teacher did.
 

thefrogprincess

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our daughter is deifinately old enough to tell who she wants, when she wants and the teacher had no right what so ever to open her mouth about it. I only ever told my close friends when I was in school, not because I was embarrassed, but because I really didn't feel like answering a ton of questions. I would take it to the administration. The teacher needs to be reprimanded at the least for violating your daughters privacy.
 

thefrogprincess

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our daughter is deifinately old enough to tell who she wants, when she wants and the teacher had no right what so ever to open her mouth about it. I only ever told my close friends when I was in school, not because I was embarrassed, but because I really didn't feel like answering a ton of questions. I would take it to the administration. The teacher needs to be reprimanded at the least for violating your daughters privacy.
 

thefrogprincess

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our daughter is deifinately old enough to tell who she wants, when she wants and the teacher had no right what so ever to open her mouth about it. I only ever told my close friends when I was in school, not because I was embarrassed, but because I really didn't feel like answering a ton of questions. I would take it to the administration. The teacher needs to be reprimanded at the least for violating your daughters privacy.
 

sue35

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I understand how you feel and I don't think that anyone was trying to say you were a bad parent. I do agree though that she should have probably have started off being totally open about it when she was very little. I only say that because that was the opposite of how I was raised. My parents didn't hide it per say, but did stress how serious it was and how to only tell close friends and made me feel kind of shameful of it. They didn't know they were doing it and I think they are fabulous parents that didn't know how to handle the situation, as most parents are because no one prepares for something like CF.

6th grade is a hard grade because you are embarassed of everything at that age. I was hosptalized at that age and was treated like a freak because no one knew about CF so I was just the odd girl who was in the hospital for a mystery illness.

I am sure the teacher did it out of concern and then was probably happy that someone cared enough to do a report on it. It is nice that someone was so concerned that they looked it up and did a whole report on it. Maybe your daughter could do a report to clarify things. I understand that is a LOT easier to say rather than do, I don't think I could do it at that age.

It will blow over soon, it is the end of the year. I agree that if you do anything about it then she might just get more embarassed. It is such a hard situation to be a parent of a CFer and a 6th grade girl!
 

sue35

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I understand how you feel and I don't think that anyone was trying to say you were a bad parent. I do agree though that she should have probably have started off being totally open about it when she was very little. I only say that because that was the opposite of how I was raised. My parents didn't hide it per say, but did stress how serious it was and how to only tell close friends and made me feel kind of shameful of it. They didn't know they were doing it and I think they are fabulous parents that didn't know how to handle the situation, as most parents are because no one prepares for something like CF.

6th grade is a hard grade because you are embarassed of everything at that age. I was hosptalized at that age and was treated like a freak because no one knew about CF so I was just the odd girl who was in the hospital for a mystery illness.

I am sure the teacher did it out of concern and then was probably happy that someone cared enough to do a report on it. It is nice that someone was so concerned that they looked it up and did a whole report on it. Maybe your daughter could do a report to clarify things. I understand that is a LOT easier to say rather than do, I don't think I could do it at that age.

It will blow over soon, it is the end of the year. I agree that if you do anything about it then she might just get more embarassed. It is such a hard situation to be a parent of a CFer and a 6th grade girl!
 

sue35

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I understand how you feel and I don't think that anyone was trying to say you were a bad parent. I do agree though that she should have probably have started off being totally open about it when she was very little. I only say that because that was the opposite of how I was raised. My parents didn't hide it per say, but did stress how serious it was and how to only tell close friends and made me feel kind of shameful of it. They didn't know they were doing it and I think they are fabulous parents that didn't know how to handle the situation, as most parents are because no one prepares for something like CF.

6th grade is a hard grade because you are embarassed of everything at that age. I was hosptalized at that age and was treated like a freak because no one knew about CF so I was just the odd girl who was in the hospital for a mystery illness.

I am sure the teacher did it out of concern and then was probably happy that someone cared enough to do a report on it. It is nice that someone was so concerned that they looked it up and did a whole report on it. Maybe your daughter could do a report to clarify things. I understand that is a LOT easier to say rather than do, I don't think I could do it at that age.

It will blow over soon, it is the end of the year. I agree that if you do anything about it then she might just get more embarassed. It is such a hard situation to be a parent of a CFer and a 6th grade girl!
 

julie

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To all the responders, I just want to say that the issue at hand here is NOT whether her daughter should tell others about her CF or not. The issue is what the teacher did.

To answer your question IP, what the teacher did is wrong and illegal. You have two ways you can deal with it, confront her and address the seriousness of what she did and how she has long-term affected the class, and the way your dd is treated. Or, you can go to the principal and let him/her know that you already talked to the teacher and she said she might have said something, and that you are aware that she violated HIPPA and you want her delt with accordingly.

your daughter might have been able to avoid this by telling classmates about her CF but that doesn't work for everyone, and it sure as heck does not excuse what the teacher did. This is HER disease and it's HER business to tell and no one elses.
 

julie

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To all the responders, I just want to say that the issue at hand here is NOT whether her daughter should tell others about her CF or not. The issue is what the teacher did.

To answer your question IP, what the teacher did is wrong and illegal. You have two ways you can deal with it, confront her and address the seriousness of what she did and how she has long-term affected the class, and the way your dd is treated. Or, you can go to the principal and let him/her know that you already talked to the teacher and she said she might have said something, and that you are aware that she violated HIPPA and you want her delt with accordingly.

your daughter might have been able to avoid this by telling classmates about her CF but that doesn't work for everyone, and it sure as heck does not excuse what the teacher did. This is HER disease and it's HER business to tell and no one elses.
 

julie

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To all the responders, I just want to say that the issue at hand here is NOT whether her daughter should tell others about her CF or not. The issue is what the teacher did.

To answer your question IP, what the teacher did is wrong and illegal. You have two ways you can deal with it, confront her and address the seriousness of what she did and how she has long-term affected the class, and the way your dd is treated. Or, you can go to the principal and let him/her know that you already talked to the teacher and she said she might have said something, and that you are aware that she violated HIPPA and you want her delt with accordingly.

your daughter might have been able to avoid this by telling classmates about her CF but that doesn't work for everyone, and it sure as heck does not excuse what the teacher did. This is HER disease and it's HER business to tell and no one elses.
 

AnD

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(Oops, posted this in the other thread, but wanted to say it here, with some edits <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> : )

If you have had cf problems all your life, and everyone knows and has known since you were little, that's one thing. If you haven't had any/many problems, and/or were diagnosed later, and therefore, it has never come up before, that's something else, and it should be your decision about who knows and who needs to know it. Not everyone is kind in this world nor has the best intentions. A well intentioned gesture is not always the appropriate gesture.

Humor me for a moment, please:

Translate it to the adult world: You are diagnosed as an adult. You go in the hospital. Your manager gathers the whole office together and, without your or your family's knowledge, tells the entire office why you are gone and your medical condition. Then, somebody googles it and tells everyone else what they read, and that the median age is 37, and since you are 36, it's not looking good. Nevermind the fact that you are (for example) presently healthy as a horse except for this flare up, and most of what they googled may have nothing to do with the present situation. And you go back to work and you notice a few people looking at you out of the corner of their eyes and you see people whisper as you go by. Then you find out what happened. That's uncomfortable, even as a well grounded adult.

First, there's the decision about the lawsuit <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> .

Then there are the coworkers who will want to be educated, and will try not to breathe on you when they come to work sick. Then there are the ones who will go "Oh." and treat you no differently. Then there are the ones who will try to use it to undermine you for their own advantage. Then there are the ones who will unconciously undermine you. Now you have to deal with them all, when you really were comfortable with your work life and the people you chose to share with, and the only reason it changed is because someone shared something that was none of their business to share. School is no different, just often more blatent and cruel (real or perceived). This is one of the reasons there are rules about this stuff.

Yes, the first thing that most of us would do is call a meeting and meet this problem head on. But she is a CHILD, and maybe she doesn't want to be the spokesperson for cf this year, or maybe she feels that her hair is too red, or her feet are too big, or whatever, (insert your own adolecent insecurity here ), and doesn't want to be put on the spot. The teacher invaded her privacy, both mentally and legally, and it was wrong.

Sure it's not a perfect world; sure this won't be the only instance where a kid with cf will have to deal with being different, but there are rules for a reason, and the teacher broke the rules, and then compounded it by having someone else, a classmate! share with the class about what her condition entails. That was wrong, whether it was about cf or any other medical condition.

And again, not everyone who doesn't tell the world they have cf are ashamed- some of us are just private people, and chose to share it on a "need to know" basis. If my DH introduced me to everyone as "This is my wife, Andee, and she has cf" I'd throttle him LOL. Can he tell people and discuss it with them? Sure, no problem. And as far as I go, get to know me, I'll get to know you, and then if I feel like sharing my medical condition with you, I will. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> The only exception to that is if someone needs information or to be informed (Like the lady at the mall over Christmas who was telling a sales lady that most cf's don't make it past age 12. Correct information time! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ).
 

AnD

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(Oops, posted this in the other thread, but wanted to say it here, with some edits <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> : )

If you have had cf problems all your life, and everyone knows and has known since you were little, that's one thing. If you haven't had any/many problems, and/or were diagnosed later, and therefore, it has never come up before, that's something else, and it should be your decision about who knows and who needs to know it. Not everyone is kind in this world nor has the best intentions. A well intentioned gesture is not always the appropriate gesture.

Humor me for a moment, please:

Translate it to the adult world: You are diagnosed as an adult. You go in the hospital. Your manager gathers the whole office together and, without your or your family's knowledge, tells the entire office why you are gone and your medical condition. Then, somebody googles it and tells everyone else what they read, and that the median age is 37, and since you are 36, it's not looking good. Nevermind the fact that you are (for example) presently healthy as a horse except for this flare up, and most of what they googled may have nothing to do with the present situation. And you go back to work and you notice a few people looking at you out of the corner of their eyes and you see people whisper as you go by. Then you find out what happened. That's uncomfortable, even as a well grounded adult.

First, there's the decision about the lawsuit <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> .

Then there are the coworkers who will want to be educated, and will try not to breathe on you when they come to work sick. Then there are the ones who will go "Oh." and treat you no differently. Then there are the ones who will try to use it to undermine you for their own advantage. Then there are the ones who will unconciously undermine you. Now you have to deal with them all, when you really were comfortable with your work life and the people you chose to share with, and the only reason it changed is because someone shared something that was none of their business to share. School is no different, just often more blatent and cruel (real or perceived). This is one of the reasons there are rules about this stuff.

Yes, the first thing that most of us would do is call a meeting and meet this problem head on. But she is a CHILD, and maybe she doesn't want to be the spokesperson for cf this year, or maybe she feels that her hair is too red, or her feet are too big, or whatever, (insert your own adolecent insecurity here ), and doesn't want to be put on the spot. The teacher invaded her privacy, both mentally and legally, and it was wrong.

Sure it's not a perfect world; sure this won't be the only instance where a kid with cf will have to deal with being different, but there are rules for a reason, and the teacher broke the rules, and then compounded it by having someone else, a classmate! share with the class about what her condition entails. That was wrong, whether it was about cf or any other medical condition.

And again, not everyone who doesn't tell the world they have cf are ashamed- some of us are just private people, and chose to share it on a "need to know" basis. If my DH introduced me to everyone as "This is my wife, Andee, and she has cf" I'd throttle him LOL. Can he tell people and discuss it with them? Sure, no problem. And as far as I go, get to know me, I'll get to know you, and then if I feel like sharing my medical condition with you, I will. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> The only exception to that is if someone needs information or to be informed (Like the lady at the mall over Christmas who was telling a sales lady that most cf's don't make it past age 12. Correct information time! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ).
 

AnD

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(Oops, posted this in the other thread, but wanted to say it here, with some edits <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> : )

If you have had cf problems all your life, and everyone knows and has known since you were little, that's one thing. If you haven't had any/many problems, and/or were diagnosed later, and therefore, it has never come up before, that's something else, and it should be your decision about who knows and who needs to know it. Not everyone is kind in this world nor has the best intentions. A well intentioned gesture is not always the appropriate gesture.

Humor me for a moment, please:

Translate it to the adult world: You are diagnosed as an adult. You go in the hospital. Your manager gathers the whole office together and, without your or your family's knowledge, tells the entire office why you are gone and your medical condition. Then, somebody googles it and tells everyone else what they read, and that the median age is 37, and since you are 36, it's not looking good. Nevermind the fact that you are (for example) presently healthy as a horse except for this flare up, and most of what they googled may have nothing to do with the present situation. And you go back to work and you notice a few people looking at you out of the corner of their eyes and you see people whisper as you go by. Then you find out what happened. That's uncomfortable, even as a well grounded adult.

First, there's the decision about the lawsuit <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> .

Then there are the coworkers who will want to be educated, and will try not to breathe on you when they come to work sick. Then there are the ones who will go "Oh." and treat you no differently. Then there are the ones who will try to use it to undermine you for their own advantage. Then there are the ones who will unconciously undermine you. Now you have to deal with them all, when you really were comfortable with your work life and the people you chose to share with, and the only reason it changed is because someone shared something that was none of their business to share. School is no different, just often more blatent and cruel (real or perceived). This is one of the reasons there are rules about this stuff.

Yes, the first thing that most of us would do is call a meeting and meet this problem head on. But she is a CHILD, and maybe she doesn't want to be the spokesperson for cf this year, or maybe she feels that her hair is too red, or her feet are too big, or whatever, (insert your own adolecent insecurity here ), and doesn't want to be put on the spot. The teacher invaded her privacy, both mentally and legally, and it was wrong.

Sure it's not a perfect world; sure this won't be the only instance where a kid with cf will have to deal with being different, but there are rules for a reason, and the teacher broke the rules, and then compounded it by having someone else, a classmate! share with the class about what her condition entails. That was wrong, whether it was about cf or any other medical condition.

And again, not everyone who doesn't tell the world they have cf are ashamed- some of us are just private people, and chose to share it on a "need to know" basis. If my DH introduced me to everyone as "This is my wife, Andee, and she has cf" I'd throttle him LOL. Can he tell people and discuss it with them? Sure, no problem. And as far as I go, get to know me, I'll get to know you, and then if I feel like sharing my medical condition with you, I will. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> The only exception to that is if someone needs information or to be informed (Like the lady at the mall over Christmas who was telling a sales lady that most cf's don't make it past age 12. Correct information time! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> ).
 
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